What's new
US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

We need a NEW symbol of Southern Pride

Bootney Lee Farnsworth

Diamond Member
Joined
Aug 15, 2017
Messages
33,611
Reaction score
17,477
Points
1,915
Location
Tejas
Most Southerners who resist the movement to remove and suppress the Army of Northern Virginia Battle Flag do so because it is the only "uniform" symbol of Southern Pride.
Most of America believes the Battle Flag is a symbol of pride, not racism.

Taking away the symbol of Southern Pride is an attack on good Southerners who are not racist, but generous, peaceful, and loving. Why alienate the good guys without giving them an alternative?

If we are going to take away the one emblem that distinguishes Southerners and gives them a sense of belonging, should we not replace it? If the real goal is to remove emblems of hatred, why not give ALL Southerners (not just white) a NEW symbol of Southern Pride that does NOT represent oppression, racism, rebellion, hatred, treason, etc.? Why not give the South a unifying symbol in exchange?
 

Correll

Diamond Member
Joined
Mar 16, 2015
Messages
79,075
Reaction score
19,075
Points
2,220
Most Southerners who resist the movement to remove and suppress the Army of Northern Virginia Battle Flag do so because it is the only "uniform" symbol of Southern Pride.
Most of America believes the Battle Flag is a symbol of pride, not racism.

Taking away the symbol of Southern Pride is an attack on good Southerners who are not racist, but generous, peaceful, and loving. Why alienate the good guys without giving them an alternative?

If we are going to take away the one emblem that distinguishes Southerners and gives them a sense of belonging, should we not replace it? If the real goal is to remove emblems of hatred, why not give ALL Southerners (not just white) a NEW symbol of Southern Pride that does NOT represent oppression, racism, rebellion, hatred, treason, etc.? Why not give the South a unifying symbol in exchange?


Because they don't need a new one, they have a perfectly fine old one.


Modern lefties don't have the Moral Authority to retract the forgiveness and acceptance given to the South, by those the paid the price to defeat them in battle.
 

Tank

Gold Member
Joined
Apr 2, 2009
Messages
18,809
Reaction score
2,633
Points
280
Work boots, or would that be racist?

tattered_old_work_boots_by_fantasystock.jpg
 

easyt65

Diamond Member
Joined
Aug 4, 2015
Messages
72,029
Reaction score
33,236
Points
2,330
I am not sure just how many Southerners consider any and all things Confederate as the source of Southern Pride, so when the OP says we need to find a new source of Southern Pride I am not sure who he is talking to and how many.

That being said, talking to, knowing a lot of Southerners, and being one I have heard people claim many different sources. Probably the most common claimed source is 'Southern Hospitality'. Then there is Sweet Tea. :) I know many who claim the Confederate Flag is a Southern Symbol, but not a source of pride. Being in the military and knowing many military members, most of us see the flag as a symbol of a tragic time in this country during which too many Americans died fighting amongst ourselves / themselves.

This weekend demonstrates there are too many racists, too many misguided Americans driven by and who still cling on to hate. I completely agree with the OP that this has to change and those like this must be shunned, rejected as any part of who we are and what we are about, not only in the south but in this country as a whole.
 

iamwhatiseem

Platinum Member
Joined
Aug 19, 2010
Messages
28,418
Reaction score
11,088
Points
900
Location
On a hill
WTF is southern pride?
Is that like Midwestern Pride? Never heard of it. Nor have I heard of Prairie Pride? Or New England Pride?
I wish I heard American Pride a lot more though.
 

Clintonista

VIP Member
Joined
Jul 6, 2016
Messages
348
Reaction score
41
Points
68
I do not know of anything the South has to be proud of prior to 1980 or so.

Slavery. Jim Crow laws. Segregation. The Birmingham church bombing. The KKK. Mass lynchings. The Civil War. Black voter suppression.
 

Correll

Diamond Member
Joined
Mar 16, 2015
Messages
79,075
Reaction score
19,075
Points
2,220
WTF is southern pride?
Is that like Midwestern Pride? Never heard of it. Nor have I heard of Prairie Pride? Or New England Pride?
I wish I heard American Pride a lot more though.


Regional pride, nothing wrong with it, and generally felt by people also proud to be Americans.


john_schneider_general_lee.jpg
 

Clintonista

VIP Member
Joined
Jul 6, 2016
Messages
348
Reaction score
41
Points
68
I have never seen a proud Southerner try to snatch away the Confederate flag from the KKK or other white supremacists.

You can add cowardice and silent (if not vocal) assent in the face of naked hatred and racism to their list of achievements.


lunch_counter6.jpg
 

Correll

Diamond Member
Joined
Mar 16, 2015
Messages
79,075
Reaction score
19,075
Points
2,220
I do not know of anything the South has to be proud of prior to 1980 or so.

Slavery. Jim Crow laws. Segregation. The Birmingham church bombing. The KKK. Mass lynchings. The Civil War. Black voter suppression.


Bill CLinton was born 19 fucking 46 in Arkansas.
 

Correll

Diamond Member
Joined
Mar 16, 2015
Messages
79,075
Reaction score
19,075
Points
2,220
I have never seen a proud Southerner try to snatch away the Confederate flag from the KKK or other white supremacists.

You can add cowardice and silent (if not vocal) assent to their list of proud achievements.


I've never seen anyone trying to snatch an American flag off of them either.

What does that tell you?
 

bendog

Platinum Member
Joined
Mar 4, 2013
Messages
38,991
Reaction score
6,397
Points
1,140
Location
Dog House in back yard
Most Southerners who resist the movement to remove and suppress the Army of Northern Virginia Battle Flag do so because it is the only "uniform" symbol of Southern Pride.
Most of America believes the Battle Flag is a symbol of pride, not racism.

Taking away the symbol of Southern Pride is an attack on good Southerners who are not racist, but generous, peaceful, and loving. Why alienate the good guys without giving them an alternative?

If we are going to take away the one emblem that distinguishes Southerners and gives them a sense of belonging, should we not replace it? If the real goal is to remove emblems of hatred, why not give ALL Southerners (not just white) a NEW symbol of Southern Pride that does NOT represent oppression, racism, rebellion, hatred, treason, etc.? Why not give the South a unifying symbol in exchange?
ah vote fer a fried catfish po-boy. On a soft Nawlin's loaf, with iceberg, sliced tahmaters, pickles and comeback dressin. I could use one about now. With fries. Or Zaps potato chips.
 

WillHaftawaite

Diamond Member
Staff member
Moderator
Gold Supporting Member
Joined
Mar 3, 2013
Messages
66,893
Reaction score
25,187
Points
2,250
I do not know of anything the South has to be proud of prior to 1980 or so.

Slavery. Jim Crow laws. Segregation. The Birmingham church bombing. The KKK. Mass lynchings. The Civil War. Black voter suppression.
do not know of anything the South has to be proud of prior to 1980 or so.

Lyndon Johnson
Jimmy Carter
Bill Clinton


come to think on it..

I agree with you
 

debbiedowner

Gold Member
Joined
Feb 12, 2017
Messages
10,288
Reaction score
2,070
Points
275
Most Southerners who resist the movement to remove and suppress the Army of Northern Virginia Battle Flag do so because it is the only "uniform" symbol of Southern Pride.
Most of America believes the Battle Flag is a symbol of pride, not racism.

Taking away the symbol of Southern Pride is an attack on good Southerners who are not racist, but generous, peaceful, and loving. Why alienate the good guys without giving them an alternative?

If we are going to take away the one emblem that distinguishes Southerners and gives them a sense of belonging, should we not replace it? If the real goal is to remove emblems of hatred, why not give ALL Southerners (not just white) a NEW symbol of Southern Pride that does NOT represent oppression, racism, rebellion, hatred, treason, etc.? Why not give the South a unifying symbol in exchange?

While I might agree you are implying that Southerners need something besides the American Flag to give them a sense of belonging. Belong to what?

To tell you the truth if it wasn't the fact that white supremacists and sympathizers were all bitching about this I wouldn't care one way or another. I have lived in the South over 30 years and like it and most of the people, but for the life of me I don't know why you're still fighting the civil war. Do you really know who your ancestors are? Maybe some of you did a family tree but not all, you're just going along with the crowd. Everyone a live today should be caring about recent history. I simply just don't understand.

Also the only thing I heard the white supremacists saying the other day was about Jews. But they were trying to save a Confederate statue. How do the Jews fit into a civil war statue?
 

deanrd

Gold Member
Joined
May 8, 2017
Messages
29,412
Reaction score
3,617
Points
290
Most Southerners who resist the movement to remove and suppress the Army of Northern Virginia Battle Flag do so because it is the only "uniform" symbol of Southern Pride.
Most of America believes the Battle Flag is a symbol of pride, not racism.

Taking away the symbol of Southern Pride is an attack on good Southerners who are not racist, but generous, peaceful, and loving. Why alienate the good guys without giving them an alternative?

If we are going to take away the one emblem that distinguishes Southerners and gives them a sense of belonging, should we not replace it? If the real goal is to remove emblems of hatred, why not give ALL Southerners (not just white) a NEW symbol of Southern Pride that does NOT represent oppression, racism, rebellion, hatred, treason, etc.? Why not give the South a unifying symbol in exchange?
We need a NEW symbol of Southern Pride

What's wrong with the ones you have now?

us%7Dkkk3.gif

TC-131462-MainIcon.jpg

11-alt-right-logo.w710.h473.2x.jpg

image33.gif


808223_630x354.jpg


GOPFINAL.png


My God, now many do you need?
 

WillHaftawaite

Diamond Member
Staff member
Moderator
Gold Supporting Member
Joined
Mar 3, 2013
Messages
66,893
Reaction score
25,187
Points
2,250
Most Southerners who resist the movement to remove and suppress the Army of Northern Virginia Battle Flag do so because it is the only "uniform" symbol of Southern Pride.
Most of America believes the Battle Flag is a symbol of pride, not racism.

Taking away the symbol of Southern Pride is an attack on good Southerners who are not racist, but generous, peaceful, and loving. Why alienate the good guys without giving them an alternative?

If we are going to take away the one emblem that distinguishes Southerners and gives them a sense of belonging, should we not replace it? If the real goal is to remove emblems of hatred, why not give ALL Southerners (not just white) a NEW symbol of Southern Pride that does NOT represent oppression, racism, rebellion, hatred, treason, etc.? Why not give the South a unifying symbol in exchange?
We need a NEW symbol of Southern Pride

What's wrong with the ones you have now?

us%7Dkkk3.gif

TC-131462-MainIcon.jpg

11-alt-right-logo.w710.h473.2x.jpg

image33.gif


808223_630x354.jpg


GOPFINAL.png


My God, now many do you need?

You forgot this one

th
 

USMB Server Goals

Total amount
$350.00
Goal
$350.00

New Topics

Most reactions - Past 7 days

Forum List

Top