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We can learn from the Spanish Flu in dealing with COVID-19

frigidweirdo

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Expected deaths last year were 3,060,558, 3,440,865 people actually died. That's an excess of nearly 400,000 people. That's an 1/7th increase in the number of deaths. That's a high number.

Bullshit. "Expected deaths" is nothing more than a wild-ass guess even if honest and pure propaganda manipulated by guesser if not. If there are more people in the population estimate a higher number of deaths is natural. The one thing that cannot be expected is that the number of deaths should remain the same from year to year which is exactly what you claim. How many people were in the USA in 2020? You really have no idea. Do you honestly think that somebody took into account all the illegal and unidentified aliens? The death rate in an actual pandemic like the Spanish Flu is many many times higher than corvid has actually caused. And you never bother to tell us who is actually supposed to have made these wild-ass guesses.

Yes, it's a guess. A very educated guess.

It takes the previous five years death rates, and follows the pattern.

If you have 5 deaths in 2015, 6 deaths in 2016, 7 deaths in 2017, 8 deaths in 2018, 9 deaths in 2019, the predicted death rate in 2020 will be 10. So if you have 11 deaths in 2020, the excess death rate will be 1.

It's not difficult to understand.


2014 8.264% of people died.
2015 8.369% of people died. 0.105% increase
2016 8.475% of people died. 0.105% increase
2017 8.580% of people died. 0.105% increase
2018 8.685% of people died. 0.105% increase
2019 8.782% of people died. 0.097% increase

So we can see that there's been a VERY consistent increase in the number of deaths per year. The only difference is 2019 where it dropped by 0.008%.

So what would your prediction for 2020 be? Either Somewhere between 0.089% to 0.113%.


The results for deaths in 2020 is probably not out yet. It takes time to get all the data from all around the country.

"ccording to preliminary weekly data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) (as of April 26, 2021), 3,427,321 people died from all causes in 2020."

This is a rate of more than 10% (seeing how there are about 330 million people, it's about 10.3%, which means it's an increase of 1.5%, far, FAR above anything that would have been expected. In fact it's more than 10 times higher.
 

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Yes, it's a guess. A very educated guess.

It takes the previous five years death rates, and follows the pattern.

If you have 5 deaths in 2015, 6 deaths in 2016, 7 deaths in 2017, 8 deaths in 2018, 9 deaths in 2019, the predicted death rate in 2020 will be 10. So if you have 11 deaths in 2020, the excess death rate will be 1.

It's not difficult to understand.


2014 8.264% of people died.
2015 8.369% of people died. 0.105% increase
2016 8.475% of people died. 0.105% increase
2017 8.580% of people died. 0.105% increase
2018 8.685% of people died. 0.105% increase
2019 8.782% of people died. 0.097% increase

So we can see that there's been a VERY consistent increase in the number of deaths per year. The only difference is 2019 where it dropped by 0.008%.

So what would your prediction for 2020 be? Either Somewhere between 0.089% to 0.113%.


The results for deaths in 2020 is probably not out yet. It takes time to get all the data from all around the country.

"ccording to preliminary weekly data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) (as of April 26, 2021), 3,427,321 people died from all causes in 2020."

This is a rate of more than 10% (seeing how there are about 330 million people, it's about 10.3%, which means it's an increase of 1.5%, far, FAR above anything that would have been expected. In fact it's more than 10 times higher.
Continued bullshit. You cannot figure percentages of the population if you don't know what the size of the population, which changes from year to year, is. Continued wild guessing. Get a clue. Your attempt at math is a failure.
 

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Are they covering up vaccine deaths? Or is it that you just want these deaths to be something they're not?

Provide me one piece of evidence that shows that these deaths are caused BY the vaccine.

The answer to this question is in your post. You can't show this at all.

But nonetheless you're pumping it as a "problem" anyway.
8000 people, according to the CDC itself, have died shortly after getting a Covid vaccine. Why can't they tell us what the people died of? Not one. Don't they even care enough to investigate why?
 

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Continued bullshit. You cannot figure percentages of the population if you don't know what the size of the population, which changes from year to year, is. Continued wild guessing. Get a clue. Your attempt at math is a failure.

Fine, you keep with your nonsense conspiracy theories and you ignore what's right in front of your nose. I can't have a good conversation with what you're saying, because it's freaking ridiculous.
 

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8000 people, according to the CDC itself, have died shortly after getting a Covid vaccine. Why can't they tell us what the people died of? Not one. Don't they even care enough to investigate why?

Probably because they don't know. They don't do data like that. They don't find out EVERYTHING.

The simple fact of the matter is that people get given a statistic, they don't stop to figure out what it means. They simply run with it and make a nice conspiracy theory out of it.

Do you understand?
 

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Fine, you keep with your nonsense conspiracy theories and you ignore what's right in front of your nose. I can't have a good conversation with what you're saying, because it's freaking ridiculous.
Simple math is a "conspiracy theory"? Cute.
 

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Probably because they don't know. They don't do data like that. They don't find out EVERYTHING.

The simple fact of the matter is that people get given a statistic, they don't stop to figure out what it means. They simply run with it and make a nice conspiracy theory out of it.

Do you understand?
The CDC is the one reporting that over 8000 people have died from the vaccines, not Fox News. Are you saying that the CDC is peddling conspiracy theories? What is the point of a reporting system if all they do is add numbers and no one ever checks out why these people are dying? This should be a top priority. If these people died from other issues and not the vaccine then prove it to us. They won't because they know the truth but they want to hide it from Americans because it would hurt their vaccination drive and mandates.
 

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Are they covering up vaccine deaths? Or is it that you just want these deaths to be something they're not?

Provide me one piece of evidence that shows that these deaths are caused BY the vaccine.

The answer to this question is in your post. You can't show this at all.

But nonetheless you're pumping it as a "problem" anyway.

It is easy to understand why these mRNA injections should be causing deaths.
Normal vaccines use real but dead viruses.
These mRNA injections do not, and it is not even clear what they do use.
The CDC is claiming they are mRNA that then magically gets into your own cells, and miraculously cause them to grow spike proteins through ribosome translation.
While that is all very questionable, the dangers are obvious.
One is that since the injection is much smaller, it is much more mobile, so can get to places that would result in death when attacked by the immune system, like the brain or heart.
Another is that if the spike protein production is within your own body, there is no way to control numbers, so some would grow no spike proteins, while others would overdose and die.
But the whole idea of using just spike proteins is crazy since our own exosomes have to also use these same spike proteins.
 

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The CDC is the one reporting that over 8000 people have died from the vaccines, not Fox News. Are you saying that the CDC is peddling conspiracy theories? What is the point of a reporting system if all they do is add numbers and no one ever checks out why these people are dying? This should be a top priority. If these people died from other issues and not the vaccine then prove it to us. They won't because they know the truth but they want to hide it from Americans because it would hurt their vaccination drive and mandates.

No, the CDC did not report that 8,000 people have died from the vaccines.

They reported 8,000 people had died after having recently had the vaccine.

Are you seriously telling me you, as an "independent thinker", can't manage to see the difference between those two things?

Maybe the CDC was told to report this statistic. Who knows? But you need to look at what they reported, and not what you want them to have reported.
 

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