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A lot of people are just saying they are not getting vaxed just to piss certains off.The comparisons are on overall mortality and how herd immunity could work out if all people were as stupid as those who are not getting the vaccinations.JC. That flu was way different. LOL. It killed more people under 50 than over 50.The Spanish Flu is very similar to COVID-19. We relied on herd immunity to mitigate the Spanish Flu. The mortality rate was .0065 of a population of 103 million people in 1918. 675,000 people died in the USA of the Spanish Flu.
We could depend on herd immunity for COVID. The mortality rate should be close to the same for the Spanish Flu and COVID-19.
Based on today's US population it is estimated that 2,145,000 Americans would die by the time herd immunity took care of COVID-19.
With 80% or more American get vaccinated we could save over 1,000,000 American lives.
One of those lives saved could be your mother, your brother or your child.
Do not be scared. Get vaccinated and help save American lives.
People with strong immune systems suffered the greatest, as their systems really over reacted.
What are you even talking about??
Eh... I'm going to need a link to that one.First, anti-bodies from having COVID are not as good as the vaccines.
I should thank you though... The JJ vaccine is STILL a vaccine that tells your cells to make a unneeded protein, it just doesn't do it via mRNA, it does it via another virus. I won't be taking that vaccine either.And you are putting the rest of your family, friends and Americans at greater risk. Thanks, asshole.
I understand the difference but the vaccine in my opinion has not been studied enough I mean it was done rather fast.Moderna ands Pfizer are messenger vaccines. They keep the virus from replicating in your body and making you very sick or dead.A lot of people around me got vaccinated, but no one answered them if they might or not be contagious?The Spanish Flu is very similar to COVID-19. We relied on herd immunity to mitigate the Spanish Flu. The mortality rate was .0065 of a population of 103 million people in 1918. 675,000 people died in the USA of the Spanish Flu.
We could depend on herd immunity for COVID. The mortality rate should be close to the same for the Spanish Flu and COVID-19.
Based on today's US population it is estimated that 2,145,000 Americans would die by the time herd immunity took care of COVID-19.
With 80% or more American get vaccinated we could save over 1,000,000 American lives.
One of those lives saved could be your mother, your brother or your child.
Do not be scared. Get vaccinated and help save American lives.
We don't know yet if they will keep you from getting infected and spreading the virus. Do you understand the difference?
The J&J vaccine is made from the vaccine (I believe) and likely gives old fashioned immunity from infection
Philly was one of the last to quarantine. 2 weeks caused about 7000 deaths.Shit bro. Exactly. We would have been fucked with the 19 flu.The Spanish Flu is very similar to COVID-19. We relied on herd immunity to mitigate the Spanish Flu. The mortality rate was .0065 of a population of 103 million people in 1918. 675,000 people died in the USA of the Spanish Flu.
We could depend on herd immunity for COVID. The mortality rate should be close to the same for the Spanish Flu and COVID-19.
Based on today's US population it is estimated that 2,145,000 Americans would die by the time herd immunity took care of COVID-19.
With 80% or more American get vaccinated we could save over 1,000,000 American lives.
One of those lives saved could be your mother, your brother or your child.
Do not be scared. Get vaccinated and help save American lives.
The Spanish flu was nothing like COVID, the most at risk people for the Spanish Flu were the most healthy, because they believe the biggest factor was an over-response of the immune system to the bug, and younger people had the best immune systems.
Actually if it was the 1919 flu people would have accepted hard quarantines much easier, and it would be more viable due to the higher mortality rate.
Because I have no comorbidity I am not old, I do not trust"I don't intend to get vaccinated"Can you explain to me why you say they will be dead in a few years? and I don't intend to get vaccinatedwell dalia those people you know,same as the op wont be around a few years from now,it is the vaccine that is dangerous not the virus.A lot of people around me got vaccinated, but no one answered them if they might or not be contagious?The Spanish Flu is very similar to COVID-19. We relied on herd immunity to mitigate the Spanish Flu. The mortality rate was .0065 of a population of 103 million people in 1918. 675,000 people died in the USA of the Spanish Flu.
We could depend on herd immunity for COVID. The mortality rate should be close to the same for the Spanish Flu and COVID-19.
Based on today's US population it is estimated that 2,145,000 Americans would die by the time herd immunity took care of COVID-19.
With 80% or more American get vaccinated we could save over 1,000,000 American lives.
One of those lives saved could be your mother, your brother or your child.
Do not be scared. Get vaccinated and help save American lives.
Why?
From what I've seen in this very complicated abstract, was there was a huge amount of precip in Europe before and after WW1Philly was one of the last to quarantine. 2 weeks caused about 7000 deaths.Shit bro. Exactly. We would have been fucked with the 19 flu.The Spanish Flu is very similar to COVID-19. We relied on herd immunity to mitigate the Spanish Flu. The mortality rate was .0065 of a population of 103 million people in 1918. 675,000 people died in the USA of the Spanish Flu.
We could depend on herd immunity for COVID. The mortality rate should be close to the same for the Spanish Flu and COVID-19.
Based on today's US population it is estimated that 2,145,000 Americans would die by the time herd immunity took care of COVID-19.
With 80% or more American get vaccinated we could save over 1,000,000 American lives.
One of those lives saved could be your mother, your brother or your child.
Do not be scared. Get vaccinated and help save American lives.
The Spanish flu was nothing like COVID, the most at risk people for the Spanish Flu were the most healthy, because they believe the biggest factor was an over-response of the immune system to the bug, and younger people had the best immune systems.
Actually if it was the 1919 flu people would have accepted hard quarantines much easier, and it would be more viable due to the higher mortality rate.
I read it was an unusually warm Autumn up through November in the NE. I'm going to circle back at ya on that one.
Yeah, mRNA vaccines are genetic modifiers--I don't want to be genetically modified--thank you very much. My family has also had covid, thank you very much asshole. Now do you want to admit that you don't know shit about this and you are listening to a bunch more morons that don't know shit about it either. Mask/don't mask/Mask, remdesivir is not good for you/yes it is/no it isn't, HCQ is not an effective deterrent/HCQ is an effective deterrent--ALL of these statements have been made by the CDC/WHO/Fauci in the past year. The AstraZeneca vaccine is effective--yeah, right, that is why the EU is not using it anymore because of blood clotting/thrombosis fatalities. You are stupid lemming fuck that would do anything that a demented old fool would tell you. Moron.First, anti-bodies from having COVID are not as good as the vaccines. And you are putting the rest of your family, friends and Americans at greater risk. Thanks, asshole.Good for you. Glad you got vaccinated. Now go look for validation somewhere else and stay out of my life. I am one of those fathers that you mentioned and I have had covid. I am not concerned.The Spanish Flu is very similar to COVID-19. We relied on herd immunity to mitigate the Spanish Flu. The mortality rate was .0065 of a population of 103 million people in 1918. 675,000 people died in the USA of the Spanish Flu.
We could depend on herd immunity for COVID. The mortality rate should be close to the same for the Spanish Flu and COVID-19.
Based on today's US population it is estimated that 2,145,000 Americans would die by the time herd immunity took care of COVID-19.
With 80% or more American get vaccinated we could save over 1,000,000 American lives.
One of those lives saved could be your mother, your brother or your child.
Do not be scared. Get vaccinated and help save American lives.
I DO have comorbidities and I am in the middle of the "most vulnerable age group." I have had covid-19 and it wasn't as bad as some colds that I have had. mRNA vaccines are genetic modifiers and I don't want the government modifying my genetic make-up. I'm not getting it because I don't trust is either. The EU agrees with you as well Dalia, that is why they have pulled the AstraZeneca vaccine.Because I have no comorbidity I am not old, I do not trust"I don't intend to get vaccinated"Can you explain to me why you say they will be dead in a few years? and I don't intend to get vaccinatedwell dalia those people you know,same as the op wont be around a few years from now,it is the vaccine that is dangerous not the virus.A lot of people around me got vaccinated, but no one answered them if they might or not be contagious?The Spanish Flu is very similar to COVID-19. We relied on herd immunity to mitigate the Spanish Flu. The mortality rate was .0065 of a population of 103 million people in 1918. 675,000 people died in the USA of the Spanish Flu.
We could depend on herd immunity for COVID. The mortality rate should be close to the same for the Spanish Flu and COVID-19.
Based on today's US population it is estimated that 2,145,000 Americans would die by the time herd immunity took care of COVID-19.
With 80% or more American get vaccinated we could save over 1,000,000 American lives.
One of those lives saved could be your mother, your brother or your child.
Do not be scared. Get vaccinated and help save American lives.
Why?
The Spanish Flu is very similar to COVID-19. We relied on herd immunity to mitigate the Spanish Flu. The mortality rate was .0065 of a population of 103 million people in 1918. 675,000 people died in the USA of the Spanish Flu.
We could depend on herd immunity for COVID. The mortality rate should be close to the same for the Spanish Flu and COVID-19.
Based on today's US population it is estimated that 2,145,000 Americans would die by the time herd immunity took care of COVID-19.
With 80% or more American get vaccinated we could save over 1,000,000 American lives.
One of those lives saved could be your mother, your brother or your child.
Do not be scared. Get vaccinated and help save American lives.
play games is fine but if you get it, great!A lot of people are just saying they are not getting vaxed just to piss certains off.The comparisons are on overall mortality and how herd immunity could work out if all people were as stupid as those who are not getting the vaccinations.JC. That flu was way different. LOL. It killed more people under 50 than over 50.The Spanish Flu is very similar to COVID-19. We relied on herd immunity to mitigate the Spanish Flu. The mortality rate was .0065 of a population of 103 million people in 1918. 675,000 people died in the USA of the Spanish Flu.
We could depend on herd immunity for COVID. The mortality rate should be close to the same for the Spanish Flu and COVID-19.
Based on today's US population it is estimated that 2,145,000 Americans would die by the time herd immunity took care of COVID-19.
With 80% or more American get vaccinated we could save over 1,000,000 American lives.
One of those lives saved could be your mother, your brother or your child.
Do not be scared. Get vaccinated and help save American lives.
People with strong immune systems suffered the greatest, as their systems really over reacted.
What are you even talking about??
Example: I'm not taking that vaccine whatsoever. Truthfully I'm scheduled somewhere in a couple weeks.
I outed myself to let you know.
Eh... I'm going to need a link to that one.First, anti-bodies from having COVID are not as good as the vaccines.
I should thank you though... The JJ vaccine is STILL a vaccine that tells your cells to make a unneeded protein, it just doesn't do it via mRNA, it does it via another virus. I won't be taking that vaccine either.And you are putting the rest of your family, friends and Americans at greater risk. Thanks, asshole.
Found that out looking for information that said vaccines are better than getting the virus itself. Couldn't find it.
First, anti-bodies from having COVID are not as good as the vaccines.
Good for you. You do you.I am fully vaccinated. I still wear a mask in public.
It would be a lot easier to do if you supported using vaccines that are tried and proven to work and we absolutely know what the side effects are.I wish everyone would get vaccinated so we can defeat this virus. Otherwise it will be with us for a long time.
Unfortunately we have a segment of our population who won't vaccinate, won't wear a mask and won't do anything to defeat the virus.
I read an article saying that I cannot find. But the point is, it is advised you get the vaccine if you have had COVID. There is much unknown which is better in particular situations.No no... You said:
First, anti-bodies from having COVID are not as good as the vaccines.
Maybe I'm not as good of a reader as you... But what you linked does not support that statement. Feel free to quote from it that supports that statement.
Edit: Fair warning... I *DID* read it. I'll quote from it right after you do.
The article did absolutely say that.I read an article saying that I cannot find. But the point is, it is advised you get the vaccine if you have had COVID.
We agree on this as well.There is much unknown which is better in particular situations.
Awesome for you, as long as you don't infringe on everyone elses.Not sure how much we could learn from the Spanish Flu, as the nations response to it was pretty terrible. Me? I trust what most of the doctors are saying about COVID right now, as we have much better equipment for detection, better vaccines, and the government is behind support for eradicating the virus. Responses back then? Not so much.
Me? I've already had my first shot of the MODERNA vaccine, and am getting ready for my second shot at the end of this month. I will continue to wear a mask for at least 2-3 weeks after I get my second shot. And no, I don't think a mask is an infringement on my rights.
People today live about 25/30 years longer then in 1918.I think you are correct on the mortality rate for those who caught the Spanish Flu. I took deaths per capita. That includes, everybody, whether they caught the flu or not.I keep reading that the mortality rate of the Spanish Flu was more like 2% or slightly higher. Is this incorrect?
how does that make a difference in the comparison between Spanish flu and COVID.People today live about 25/30 years longer then in 1918.I think you are correct on the mortality rate for those who caught the Spanish Flu. I took deaths per capita. That includes, everybody, whether they caught the flu or not.I keep reading that the mortality rate of the Spanish Flu was more like 2% or slightly higher. Is this incorrect?
They are not sure but the current data indicates most likely not.A lot of people around me got vaccinated, but no one answered them if they might or not be contagious?The Spanish Flu is very similar to COVID-19. We relied on herd immunity to mitigate the Spanish Flu. The mortality rate was .0065 of a population of 103 million people in 1918. 675,000 people died in the USA of the Spanish Flu.
We could depend on herd immunity for COVID. The mortality rate should be close to the same for the Spanish Flu and COVID-19.
Based on today's US population it is estimated that 2,145,000 Americans would die by the time herd immunity took care of COVID-19.
With 80% or more American get vaccinated we could save over 1,000,000 American lives.
One of those lives saved could be your mother, your brother or your child.
Do not be scared. Get vaccinated and help save American lives.
Considering that the Spanish flu killed mainly healthy people, and Covid kills mainly susceptible people with bad immune systems... It doesn't. Not really.how does that make a difference in the comparison between Spanish flu and COVID.People today live about 25/30 years longer then in 1918.
