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I'd better clarify a bit. There are 2 parties. None of us are invited. Tax filing deadline update to be posted soonYou're good bro....You get itThey just blurt whatever pops to mind at the moment, facts or reality not required, per what they hear on talk radio. Like their hero and role model.More like Canada dumbass. so who would destroy our economy like we have Venezuela's?So you think that we don't notice you guys screaming SOCIALISM whenever more government is advocated or utilized. As it is in those countries.Socialism is where the government controls the means of production. They can think all they want but what they implement is big social programs paid for by capitalism. People like yourself aren't brainwashed, just plain ignorant.They think they do. Unbelievable brain wash with you people.None of those countries practice socialism.Well, I would think the bottom line for "success" would be the happiness of its citizens, so let's see what this survey says: Visit the Top 10 Happiest Countries in the World
And since it appears that "socialism" is whatever government spending exceeds military, I guess those would qualify as "socialist".
- Denmark
- Switzerland
- Iceland
- Norway
- Finland
- Canada
- The Netherlands
- New Zealand
- Australia
- Sweden
So I guess we need to specify definitions.
.
Go ahead and list the countries that you think are ACTUALLY socialist. We'll agree, they're lousy.
The rest, the social democratic countries listed above, are ACTUALLY the goal. Not Venezuela.
You guys just refuse to acknowledge that.
Good thing the socialist you voted for didnt win isn’t it? Hello Venezuela.
One small problem. Like Capitalism, Socialism is an Economic Model and NOT a Government model. America is NOT a Democratic Nation and never has been. The original USSR was NOT a Communist nor a Socialist Country and never will be. Venzuela is NOT a Socialist Country, it's a Dictatorship. Cuba is NOT a socialist country, it's a Dictatorship. The proper name for some of the most successful countries in the world is Democratic Social Government. And the ONLY difference between a Democratic Social Government and a Federal Republic (what the US once was) is how much control over National Corporate Businesses they exibit. The Federal Republic regulates more and the Democratic Social Government controls more. But both controls things that affect the majority of the populace. The US has gone from a Democratic Social Government to a near Fascist Government and all parts in between. Unlike the other nations, the Constitution of the United States leaves that option and the US grows strong from it.
So you uneducated Party of the Rump needs to keep doing what you are doing. Less and Less are buying the lies that you are spewing. But you have my permission to continue.
Yes, there are two parties. The Dems which are a bit over the top but can be reigned in and the Party of the Rump is just plain insane. Step one, get rid of Rump and the Party of Rump then get the Republicans balls reattached. When the Clintons left the whitehouse, they took all the W's from the computer keyboards. When Rump leaves, we are going to have to frisk him to recover many Republican's balls.
It's ironic you mention Clinton's, since it is exactly because of Clinton and Obama, that Trump was ever elected.
Rump put on one hell of a Carnie Side Show. he fed the fears and hates of many. He should not have even come close to winning the Primary. He turned the 2016 election into exactly what he is, a Reality Show. And he hasn't changed one bit since. You are just caught up in the Entertainment factor. Well, the chips are down and Rump is a total failure now. We need to pay heed to the lesson, don't repeat it and move on. And as much as I dislike Pence, Pence would make a far better President than Rump ever could.
They just blurt whatever pops to mind at the moment, facts or reality not required, per what they hear on talk radio. Like their hero and role model.More like Canada dumbass. so who would destroy our economy like we have Venezuela's?So you think that we don't notice you guys screaming SOCIALISM whenever more government is advocated or utilized. As it is in those countries.Socialism is where the government controls the means of production. They can think all they want but what they implement is big social programs paid for by capitalism. People like yourself aren't brainwashed, just plain ignorant.They think they do. Unbelievable brain wash with you people.None of those countries practice socialism.Well, I would think the bottom line for "success" would be the happiness of its citizens, so let's see what this survey says: Visit the Top 10 Happiest Countries in the World
And since it appears that "socialism" is whatever government spending exceeds military, I guess those would qualify as "socialist".
- Denmark
- Switzerland
- Iceland
- Norway
- Finland
- Canada
- The Netherlands
- New Zealand
- Australia
- Sweden
So I guess we need to specify definitions.
.
Go ahead and list the countries that you think are ACTUALLY socialist. We'll agree, they're lousy.
The rest, the social democratic countries listed above, are ACTUALLY the goal. Not Venezuela.
You guys just refuse to acknowledge that.
Good thing the socialist you voted for didnt win isn’t it? Hello Venezuela.
One small problem. Like Capitalism, Socialism is an Economic Model and NOT a Government model. America is NOT a Democratic Nation and never has been. The original USSR was NOT a Communist nor a Socialist Country and never will be. Venzuela is NOT a Socialist Country, it's a Dictatorship. Cuba is NOT a socialist country, it's a Dictatorship. The proper name for some of the most successful countries in the world is Democratic Social Government. And the ONLY difference between a Democratic Social Government and a Federal Republic (what the US once was) is how much control over National Corporate Businesses they exibit. The Federal Republic regulates more and the Democratic Social Government controls more. But both controls things that affect the majority of the populace. The US has gone from a Democratic Social Government to a near Fascist Government and all parts in between. Unlike the other nations, the Constitution of the United States leaves that option and the US grows strong from it.
So you uneducated Party of the Rump needs to keep doing what you are doing. Less and Less are buying the lies that you are spewing. But you have my permission to continue.
Venezuela is unique and totally screwed by us sanctions and covert actions the last 20 years since Hugo on the election. Venezuela is not a dictatorship everything they have done has been constitutional and the anti-American voters are still the majority. Hands off Venezuela for crying out loud. socialism is not communism and it would be just great if we figured that out and let Latin America go their own way. Communism is a dictatorship that owns all business and industry and no one is for that except with a gun to their head in China North Korea and Cuba. The goddamn cold war is over. We won. Communist parties never get anywhere anymore in democracies.They just blurt whatever pops to mind at the moment, facts or reality not required, per what they hear on talk radio. Like their hero and role model.More like Canada dumbass. so who would destroy our economy like we have Venezuela's?So you think that we don't notice you guys screaming SOCIALISM whenever more government is advocated or utilized. As it is in those countries.Socialism is where the government controls the means of production. They can think all they want but what they implement is big social programs paid for by capitalism. People like yourself aren't brainwashed, just plain ignorant.They think they do. Unbelievable brain wash with you people.None of those countries practice socialism.Well, I would think the bottom line for "success" would be the happiness of its citizens, so let's see what this survey says: Visit the Top 10 Happiest Countries in the World
And since it appears that "socialism" is whatever government spending exceeds military, I guess those would qualify as "socialist".
- Denmark
- Switzerland
- Iceland
- Norway
- Finland
- Canada
- The Netherlands
- New Zealand
- Australia
- Sweden
So I guess we need to specify definitions.
.
Go ahead and list the countries that you think are ACTUALLY socialist. We'll agree, they're lousy.
The rest, the social democratic countries listed above, are ACTUALLY the goal. Not Venezuela.
You guys just refuse to acknowledge that.
Good thing the socialist you voted for didnt win isn’t it? Hello Venezuela.
One small problem. Like Capitalism, Socialism is an Economic Model and NOT a Government model. America is NOT a Democratic Nation and never has been. The original USSR was NOT a Communist nor a Socialist Country and never will be. Venzuela is NOT a Socialist Country, it's a Dictatorship. Cuba is NOT a socialist country, it's a Dictatorship. The proper name for some of the most successful countries in the world is Democratic Social Government. And the ONLY difference between a Democratic Social Government and a Federal Republic (what the US once was) is how much control over National Corporate Businesses they exibit. The Federal Republic regulates more and the Democratic Social Government controls more. But both controls things that affect the majority of the populace. The US has gone from a Democratic Social Government to a near Fascist Government and all parts in between. Unlike the other nations, the Constitution of the United States leaves that option and the US grows strong from it.
So you uneducated Party of the Rump needs to keep doing what you are doing. Less and Less are buying the lies that you are spewing. But you have my permission to continue.
There you have it folks...The USSR was *not* communist..Cuba was NOT communist..but the United States IS Fascist?
Same old CCP propaganda our fathers and grandfathers fought. Except this time we are losing thanks to what has been done to public schools and their control of the media.
Go ahead, we are interested in hearing these wonderful successes.
Please, list the countries.
The USA. The federal government will, within a couple of weeks, be the biggest shareholder in American Airlines. They will also own parts of Southwest, Jet Blue, United, and other airlines. Meantime, they are sending out checks for $1,200 to everybody , as well as propping up private industry with $2.2 trillion dollars, not to mention the billions already given to farmers. In short, Trump makes Karl Marx look like a fiscal conservative.
I agree. Which of your candidates proposes dramatically cutting government spending?
Rigth now, the real question is s which one will NOT increase the government spending at the rate of the Rump. The US will be in serious trouble (before the Virus) by 2025 and if we continued (without the virus) and past the point of no return. Now, enter the 1200 buck and more per citizen check and we have to do something fast. Not only do we need to trim the fat at the Government, it's going to take higher taxes for everyone. Otherwise, the US joins Greece. And the last thing I would care to see is for the EU to call the shots in America like they do in Greece. Rump is NOT the President to go into 2021 with financially.
Great.. which of your candidates will reduce the increase in spending on Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Social Security, and the endless entitlements that make up 3/4ths of the Federal Budget? Which one?
Greece had drastically higher tax rates than the US, and they went bankrupt. Increasing taxes is not the solution, or Greece should be the economic leader of Europe.
Rump is decreasing medicare, Medicaid, SS. And my SS is NOT an entitlement. I paid into that fund for decades and it's MY MONEY. I pay every month for Medicare. I don't qualify for Medicaid since I make too much and don't really miss it anyway. And Medicaid is a State Run program. As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
Greece made some serious economical blunders. Taxes didn't cover it and the people refused to pay any more tax increases. In affect, Greece was bailed out by the rest of the EU. It's a forgone conclusion that the year 2025 (without that 1200 bucks that just showed up in my account this morning) is the point of no return if the US continues the same path under Rump's guidance. No Economist has had the balls to come out with exactly when the US will be bankrupt or drop to a triple B credit rating (which means no more loans and it's pay as you go). But in 2025, that is exactly what will happen. Not the end of the world but you can definitely see the end of the world from there.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
Go ahead, we are interested in hearing these wonderful successes.
Please, list the countries.
The USA. The federal government will, within a couple of weeks, be the biggest shareholder in American Airlines. They will also own parts of Southwest, Jet Blue, United, and other airlines. Meantime, they are sending out checks for $1,200 to everybody , as well as propping up private industry with $2.2 trillion dollars, not to mention the billions already given to farmers. In short, Trump makes Karl Marx look like a fiscal conservative.
I agree. Which of your candidates proposes dramatically cutting government spending?
Rigth now, the real question is s which one will NOT increase the government spending at the rate of the Rump. The US will be in serious trouble (before the Virus) by 2025 and if we continued (without the virus) and past the point of no return. Now, enter the 1200 buck and more per citizen check and we have to do something fast. Not only do we need to trim the fat at the Government, it's going to take higher taxes for everyone. Otherwise, the US joins Greece. And the last thing I would care to see is for the EU to call the shots in America like they do in Greece. Rump is NOT the President to go into 2021 with financially.
Great.. which of your candidates will reduce the increase in spending on Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Social Security, and the endless entitlements that make up 3/4ths of the Federal Budget? Which one?
Greece had drastically higher tax rates than the US, and they went bankrupt. Increasing taxes is not the solution, or Greece should be the economic leader of Europe.
Rump is decreasing medicare, Medicaid, SS. And my SS is NOT an entitlement. I paid into that fund for decades and it's MY MONEY. I pay every month for Medicare. I don't qualify for Medicaid since I make too much and don't really miss it anyway. And Medicaid is a State Run program. As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
Greece made some serious economical blunders. Taxes didn't cover it and the people refused to pay any more tax increases. In affect, Greece was bailed out by the rest of the EU. It's a forgone conclusion that the year 2025 (without that 1200 bucks that just showed up in my account this morning) is the point of no return if the US continues the same path under Rump's guidance. No Economist has had the balls to come out with exactly when the US will be bankrupt or drop to a triple B credit rating (which means no more loans and it's pay as you go). But in 2025, that is exactly what will happen. Not the end of the world but you can definitely see the end of the world from there.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
You paid taxes into the government for decades. It's no more "Your money" than my taxes used to pay for your Social Security, is my money.
Social Security, is a tax... and a welfare payment. It is no different than your Federal gasoline tax, and food stamps. No different than your Federal cell phone tax, and an Obama phone. No different than the estate tax, and government housing for a druggie.
Medicaid is state run? But where is the money coming from?
View attachment 323838
47.6% of the Medicaid budget of states, comes from Federal money.
As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
So the country can go to hell in a debt crash like Greece... as long as you get what you want? You know everyone else living off the tax payers, says the same thing?
Look you can't have it both ways. You can't complain that Trump is over spending, and then turn around and complain that Trump isn't spending enough.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
Great. We agree. Which candidate would you point to, that wants to cut entitlement spending?
You are so gullible. SSI is a tax, and it does go into the general fund. What you described is a book keeping fiction designed to fool the stupid. The minute the money is collected, the federal government uses it to purchase bonds. Of course, the government issues those bonds, do they are utterly worthless from the point of view of the taxpayers. The federal government spent all the money you paid in FICA taxes. There is no account with your name on it that has any real assets in it. All it has is worthless I.O.U.sGo ahead, we are interested in hearing these wonderful successes.
Please, list the countries.
The USA. The federal government will, within a couple of weeks, be the biggest shareholder in American Airlines. They will also own parts of Southwest, Jet Blue, United, and other airlines. Meantime, they are sending out checks for $1,200 to everybody , as well as propping up private industry with $2.2 trillion dollars, not to mention the billions already given to farmers. In short, Trump makes Karl Marx look like a fiscal conservative.
I agree. Which of your candidates proposes dramatically cutting government spending?
Rigth now, the real question is s which one will NOT increase the government spending at the rate of the Rump. The US will be in serious trouble (before the Virus) by 2025 and if we continued (without the virus) and past the point of no return. Now, enter the 1200 buck and more per citizen check and we have to do something fast. Not only do we need to trim the fat at the Government, it's going to take higher taxes for everyone. Otherwise, the US joins Greece. And the last thing I would care to see is for the EU to call the shots in America like they do in Greece. Rump is NOT the President to go into 2021 with financially.
Great.. which of your candidates will reduce the increase in spending on Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Social Security, and the endless entitlements that make up 3/4ths of the Federal Budget? Which one?
Greece had drastically higher tax rates than the US, and they went bankrupt. Increasing taxes is not the solution, or Greece should be the economic leader of Europe.
Rump is decreasing medicare, Medicaid, SS. And my SS is NOT an entitlement. I paid into that fund for decades and it's MY MONEY. I pay every month for Medicare. I don't qualify for Medicaid since I make too much and don't really miss it anyway. And Medicaid is a State Run program. As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
Greece made some serious economical blunders. Taxes didn't cover it and the people refused to pay any more tax increases. In affect, Greece was bailed out by the rest of the EU. It's a forgone conclusion that the year 2025 (without that 1200 bucks that just showed up in my account this morning) is the point of no return if the US continues the same path under Rump's guidance. No Economist has had the balls to come out with exactly when the US will be bankrupt or drop to a triple B credit rating (which means no more loans and it's pay as you go). But in 2025, that is exactly what will happen. Not the end of the world but you can definitely see the end of the world from there.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
You paid taxes into the government for decades. It's no more "Your money" than my taxes used to pay for your Social Security, is my money.
Social Security, is a tax... and a welfare payment. It is no different than your Federal gasoline tax, and food stamps. No different than your Federal cell phone tax, and an Obama phone. No different than the estate tax, and government housing for a druggie.
Medicaid is state run? But where is the money coming from?
View attachment 323838
47.6% of the Medicaid budget of states, comes from Federal money.
As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
So the country can go to hell in a debt crash like Greece... as long as you get what you want? You know everyone else living off the tax payers, says the same thing?
Look you can't have it both ways. You can't complain that Trump is over spending, and then turn around and complain that Trump isn't spending enough.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
Great. We agree. Which candidate would you point to, that wants to cut entitlement spending?
SSI does not go into the general fund. It goes int it's own fund. It's a trust. The other taxes are taxes. SS has never been a tax and that's MY MONEY. I pay into that fund every month even though I do collect it. But my income, part of it still pays SS. I could elect not to pay it month to month. But my Government Retirement still pays SS. But it's not a Tax. It just means that if more people do that, the SS system will last longer. That is, unless the Politicos don't get any greedier than they already are.
You can call it anything you want but I could not have paid a dime into SS and no money would have been waiting for me like it is today. Again, it's not a tax. It's a trust. One trust that your buddies need to stop dipping into when they find themselves overwhelmed through insane spending.
Go ahead, we are interested in hearing these wonderful successes.
Please, list the countries.
The USA. The federal government will, within a couple of weeks, be the biggest shareholder in American Airlines. They will also own parts of Southwest, Jet Blue, United, and other airlines. Meantime, they are sending out checks for $1,200 to everybody , as well as propping up private industry with $2.2 trillion dollars, not to mention the billions already given to farmers. In short, Trump makes Karl Marx look like a fiscal conservative.
I agree. Which of your candidates proposes dramatically cutting government spending?
Rigth now, the real question is s which one will NOT increase the government spending at the rate of the Rump. The US will be in serious trouble (before the Virus) by 2025 and if we continued (without the virus) and past the point of no return. Now, enter the 1200 buck and more per citizen check and we have to do something fast. Not only do we need to trim the fat at the Government, it's going to take higher taxes for everyone. Otherwise, the US joins Greece. And the last thing I would care to see is for the EU to call the shots in America like they do in Greece. Rump is NOT the President to go into 2021 with financially.
Great.. which of your candidates will reduce the increase in spending on Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Social Security, and the endless entitlements that make up 3/4ths of the Federal Budget? Which one?
Greece had drastically higher tax rates than the US, and they went bankrupt. Increasing taxes is not the solution, or Greece should be the economic leader of Europe.
Rump is decreasing medicare, Medicaid, SS. And my SS is NOT an entitlement. I paid into that fund for decades and it's MY MONEY. I pay every month for Medicare. I don't qualify for Medicaid since I make too much and don't really miss it anyway. And Medicaid is a State Run program. As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
Greece made some serious economical blunders. Taxes didn't cover it and the people refused to pay any more tax increases. In affect, Greece was bailed out by the rest of the EU. It's a forgone conclusion that the year 2025 (without that 1200 bucks that just showed up in my account this morning) is the point of no return if the US continues the same path under Rump's guidance. No Economist has had the balls to come out with exactly when the US will be bankrupt or drop to a triple B credit rating (which means no more loans and it's pay as you go). But in 2025, that is exactly what will happen. Not the end of the world but you can definitely see the end of the world from there.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
You paid taxes into the government for decades. It's no more "Your money" than my taxes used to pay for your Social Security, is my money.
Social Security, is a tax... and a welfare payment. It is no different than your Federal gasoline tax, and food stamps. No different than your Federal cell phone tax, and an Obama phone. No different than the estate tax, and government housing for a druggie.
Medicaid is state run? But where is the money coming from?
View attachment 323838
47.6% of the Medicaid budget of states, comes from Federal money.
As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
So the country can go to hell in a debt crash like Greece... as long as you get what you want? You know everyone else living off the tax payers, says the same thing?
Look you can't have it both ways. You can't complain that Trump is over spending, and then turn around and complain that Trump isn't spending enough.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
Great. We agree. Which candidate would you point to, that wants to cut entitlement spending?
SSI does not go into the general fund. It goes int it's own fund. It's a trust. The other taxes are taxes. SS has never been a tax and that's MY MONEY. I pay into that fund every month even though I do collect it. But my income, part of it still pays SS. I could elect not to pay it month to month. But my Government Retirement still pays SS. But it's not a Tax. It just means that if more people do that, the SS system will last longer. That is, unless the Politicos don't get any greedier than they already are.
You can call it anything you want but I could not have paid a dime into SS and no money would have been waiting for me like it is today. Again, it's not a tax. It's a trust. One trust that your buddies need to stop dipping into when they find themselves overwhelmed through insane spending.
The USA...not perfect but hey everyone gets a check, farmers get subsidized, failed companies get grants, billionaires like bankrupt billionaires like trump get second chances, convicted criminals get pardoned if they are pro the actual governor or president, and so much more....Go ahead, we are interested in hearing these wonderful successes.
Please, list the countries.
Go ahead, we are interested in hearing these wonderful successes.
Please, list the countries.
The USA. The federal government will, within a couple of weeks, be the biggest shareholder in American Airlines. They will also own parts of Southwest, Jet Blue, United, and other airlines. Meantime, they are sending out checks for $1,200 to everybody , as well as propping up private industry with $2.2 trillion dollars, not to mention the billions already given to farmers. In short, Trump makes Karl Marx look like a fiscal conservative.
I agree. Which of your candidates proposes dramatically cutting government spending?
Rigth now, the real question is s which one will NOT increase the government spending at the rate of the Rump. The US will be in serious trouble (before the Virus) by 2025 and if we continued (without the virus) and past the point of no return. Now, enter the 1200 buck and more per citizen check and we have to do something fast. Not only do we need to trim the fat at the Government, it's going to take higher taxes for everyone. Otherwise, the US joins Greece. And the last thing I would care to see is for the EU to call the shots in America like they do in Greece. Rump is NOT the President to go into 2021 with financially.
Great.. which of your candidates will reduce the increase in spending on Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Social Security, and the endless entitlements that make up 3/4ths of the Federal Budget? Which one?
Greece had drastically higher tax rates than the US, and they went bankrupt. Increasing taxes is not the solution, or Greece should be the economic leader of Europe.
Rump is decreasing medicare, Medicaid, SS. And my SS is NOT an entitlement. I paid into that fund for decades and it's MY MONEY. I pay every month for Medicare. I don't qualify for Medicaid since I make too much and don't really miss it anyway. And Medicaid is a State Run program. As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
Greece made some serious economical blunders. Taxes didn't cover it and the people refused to pay any more tax increases. In affect, Greece was bailed out by the rest of the EU. It's a forgone conclusion that the year 2025 (without that 1200 bucks that just showed up in my account this morning) is the point of no return if the US continues the same path under Rump's guidance. No Economist has had the balls to come out with exactly when the US will be bankrupt or drop to a triple B credit rating (which means no more loans and it's pay as you go). But in 2025, that is exactly what will happen. Not the end of the world but you can definitely see the end of the world from there.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
You paid taxes into the government for decades. It's no more "Your money" than my taxes used to pay for your Social Security, is my money.
Social Security, is a tax... and a welfare payment. It is no different than your Federal gasoline tax, and food stamps. No different than your Federal cell phone tax, and an Obama phone. No different than the estate tax, and government housing for a druggie.
Medicaid is state run? But where is the money coming from?
View attachment 323838
47.6% of the Medicaid budget of states, comes from Federal money.
As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
So the country can go to hell in a debt crash like Greece... as long as you get what you want? You know everyone else living off the tax payers, says the same thing?
Look you can't have it both ways. You can't complain that Trump is over spending, and then turn around and complain that Trump isn't spending enough.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
Great. We agree. Which candidate would you point to, that wants to cut entitlement spending?
SSI does not go into the general fund. It goes int it's own fund. It's a trust. The other taxes are taxes. SS has never been a tax and that's MY MONEY. I pay into that fund every month even though I do collect it. But my income, part of it still pays SS. I could elect not to pay it month to month. But my Government Retirement still pays SS. But it's not a Tax. It just means that if more people do that, the SS system will last longer. That is, unless the Politicos don't get any greedier than they already are.
You can call it anything you want but I could not have paid a dime into SS and no money would have been waiting for me like it is today. Again, it's not a tax. It's a trust. One trust that your buddies need to stop dipping into when they find themselves overwhelmed through insane spending.
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The USA...not perfect but hey everyone gets a check, farmers get subsidized, failed companies get grants, billionaires like bankrupt billionaires like trump get second chances, convicted criminals get pardoned if they are pro the actual governor or president, and so much more....Go ahead, we are interested in hearing these wonderful successes.
Please, list the countries.
Go ahead, we are interested in hearing these wonderful successes.
Please, list the countries.
The USA. The federal government will, within a couple of weeks, be the biggest shareholder in American Airlines. They will also own parts of Southwest, Jet Blue, United, and other airlines. Meantime, they are sending out checks for $1,200 to everybody , as well as propping up private industry with $2.2 trillion dollars, not to mention the billions already given to farmers. In short, Trump makes Karl Marx look like a fiscal conservative.
I agree. Which of your candidates proposes dramatically cutting government spending?
Rigth now, the real question is s which one will NOT increase the government spending at the rate of the Rump. The US will be in serious trouble (before the Virus) by 2025 and if we continued (without the virus) and past the point of no return. Now, enter the 1200 buck and more per citizen check and we have to do something fast. Not only do we need to trim the fat at the Government, it's going to take higher taxes for everyone. Otherwise, the US joins Greece. And the last thing I would care to see is for the EU to call the shots in America like they do in Greece. Rump is NOT the President to go into 2021 with financially.
Great.. which of your candidates will reduce the increase in spending on Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Social Security, and the endless entitlements that make up 3/4ths of the Federal Budget? Which one?
Greece had drastically higher tax rates than the US, and they went bankrupt. Increasing taxes is not the solution, or Greece should be the economic leader of Europe.
Rump is decreasing medicare, Medicaid, SS. And my SS is NOT an entitlement. I paid into that fund for decades and it's MY MONEY. I pay every month for Medicare. I don't qualify for Medicaid since I make too much and don't really miss it anyway. And Medicaid is a State Run program. As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
Greece made some serious economical blunders. Taxes didn't cover it and the people refused to pay any more tax increases. In affect, Greece was bailed out by the rest of the EU. It's a forgone conclusion that the year 2025 (without that 1200 bucks that just showed up in my account this morning) is the point of no return if the US continues the same path under Rump's guidance. No Economist has had the balls to come out with exactly when the US will be bankrupt or drop to a triple B credit rating (which means no more loans and it's pay as you go). But in 2025, that is exactly what will happen. Not the end of the world but you can definitely see the end of the world from there.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
You paid taxes into the government for decades. It's no more "Your money" than my taxes used to pay for your Social Security, is my money.
Social Security, is a tax... and a welfare payment. It is no different than your Federal gasoline tax, and food stamps. No different than your Federal cell phone tax, and an Obama phone. No different than the estate tax, and government housing for a druggie.
Medicaid is state run? But where is the money coming from?
View attachment 323838
47.6% of the Medicaid budget of states, comes from Federal money.
As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
So the country can go to hell in a debt crash like Greece... as long as you get what you want? You know everyone else living off the tax payers, says the same thing?
Look you can't have it both ways. You can't complain that Trump is over spending, and then turn around and complain that Trump isn't spending enough.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
Great. We agree. Which candidate would you point to, that wants to cut entitlement spending?
SSI does not go into the general fund. It goes int it's own fund. It's a trust. The other taxes are taxes. SS has never been a tax and that's MY MONEY. I pay into that fund every month even though I do collect it. But my income, part of it still pays SS. I could elect not to pay it month to month. But my Government Retirement still pays SS. But it's not a Tax. It just means that if more people do that, the SS system will last longer. That is, unless the Politicos don't get any greedier than they already are.
You can call it anything you want but I could not have paid a dime into SS and no money would have been waiting for me like it is today. Again, it's not a tax. It's a trust. One trust that your buddies need to stop dipping into when they find themselves overwhelmed through insane spending.
Robot Check
Read the book. Social Security never had a separate fund. It's not a trust. There is on trust. If you were to organize a gang, and go rob the Social Security Trust Fund, you would end up spending more money on gas, than you stole from the Trust fund, because there is no trust fund.
When Obama told you people, that if they didn't raise the debt limit, that Social Security checks were going to be cut, he wasn't lying.
Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3
In CBS News interview, President Obama says Social Security checks may not go out Aug. 3 if no deficit deal is struck
That was not a lie. There is no money in Social Security. None. Social Security is paid out of general revenue. Social Security taxes go into the General Revenue. That is how social security was setup since FDR.
There is no money waiting for you today.
Listen..... If all the tax payers today, refused to pay Social Security, there would be zero money in social security. There is no money waiting for you.
Our system works identically to Greece's system. That's why when the government went bankrupt, all the pensioners sat outside and wept bitterly because they had nothing.
The only money you have for retirement, guaranteed that is waiting for you, is the money you save and invest.
And let me warn you about something else. If the next generation of tax payers decides they don't want to pay for your retirement, they can take it from you. Unlike your 401K where you can take your investment to court, and demand compensation... you have ZERO legal right to social security. You can go look up the court case from the 1960s. You have no legal right to Social Security. None. That's what the Supreme Court of the US said.
And you want to know why? Because Social Security is an income tax, and a welfare program, just like I said. The court said you have no more of a right to Social Security, than you do a welfare check.
Because that's what Social Security is. By the way FDR himself in court, argued that Social Security was an income tax and welfare system.
This is the truth. These are the facts. Read the book. Learn.
Robot Check
Read the book. Social Security never had a separate fund. It's not a trust. There is on trust. If you were to organize a gang, and go rob the Social Security Trust Fund, you would end up spending more money on gas, than you stole from the Trust fund, because there is no trust fund.
When Obama told you people, that if they didn't raise the debt limit, that Social Security checks were going to be cut, he wasn't lying.
Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3
In CBS News interview, President Obama says Social Security checks may not go out Aug. 3 if no deficit deal is struck
That was not a lie. There is no money in Social Security. None. Social Security is paid out of general revenue. Social Security taxes go into the General Revenue. That is how social security was setup since FDR.
There is no money waiting for you today.
Listen..... If all the tax payers today, refused to pay Social Security, there would be zero money in social security. There is no money waiting for you.
Our system works identically to Greece's system. That's why when the government went bankrupt, all the pensioners sat outside and wept bitterly because they had nothing.
The only money you have for retirement, guaranteed that is waiting for you, is the money you save and invest.
And let me warn you about something else. If the next generation of tax payers decides they don't want to pay for your retirement, they can take it from you. Unlike your 401K where you can take your investment to court, and demand compensation... you have ZERO legal right to social security. You can go look up the court case from the 1960s. You have no legal right to Social Security. None. That's what the Supreme Court of the US said.
And you want to know why? Because Social Security is an income tax, and a welfare program, just like I said. The court said you have no more of a right to Social Security, than you do a welfare check.
Because that's what Social Security is. By the way FDR himself in court, argued that Social Security was an income tax and welfare system.
This is the truth. These are the facts. Read the book. Learn.
The book isn't correct and never has been. It's a conspiracy writer. So, we just cue the music
Go ahead, we are interested in hearing these wonderful successes.
Please, list the countries.
The USA. The federal government will, within a couple of weeks, be the biggest shareholder in American Airlines. They will also own parts of Southwest, Jet Blue, United, and other airlines. Meantime, they are sending out checks for $1,200 to everybody , as well as propping up private industry with $2.2 trillion dollars, not to mention the billions already given to farmers. In short, Trump makes Karl Marx look like a fiscal conservative.
I agree. Which of your candidates proposes dramatically cutting government spending?
Rigth now, the real question is s which one will NOT increase the government spending at the rate of the Rump. The US will be in serious trouble (before the Virus) by 2025 and if we continued (without the virus) and past the point of no return. Now, enter the 1200 buck and more per citizen check and we have to do something fast. Not only do we need to trim the fat at the Government, it's going to take higher taxes for everyone. Otherwise, the US joins Greece. And the last thing I would care to see is for the EU to call the shots in America like they do in Greece. Rump is NOT the President to go into 2021 with financially.
Great.. which of your candidates will reduce the increase in spending on Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Social Security, and the endless entitlements that make up 3/4ths of the Federal Budget? Which one?
Greece had drastically higher tax rates than the US, and they went bankrupt. Increasing taxes is not the solution, or Greece should be the economic leader of Europe.
Rump is decreasing medicare, Medicaid, SS. And my SS is NOT an entitlement. I paid into that fund for decades and it's MY MONEY. I pay every month for Medicare. I don't qualify for Medicaid since I make too much and don't really miss it anyway. And Medicaid is a State Run program. As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
Greece made some serious economical blunders. Taxes didn't cover it and the people refused to pay any more tax increases. In affect, Greece was bailed out by the rest of the EU. It's a forgone conclusion that the year 2025 (without that 1200 bucks that just showed up in my account this morning) is the point of no return if the US continues the same path under Rump's guidance. No Economist has had the balls to come out with exactly when the US will be bankrupt or drop to a triple B credit rating (which means no more loans and it's pay as you go). But in 2025, that is exactly what will happen. Not the end of the world but you can definitely see the end of the world from there.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
You paid taxes into the government for decades. It's no more "Your money" than my taxes used to pay for your Social Security, is my money.
Social Security, is a tax... and a welfare payment. It is no different than your Federal gasoline tax, and food stamps. No different than your Federal cell phone tax, and an Obama phone. No different than the estate tax, and government housing for a druggie.
Medicaid is state run? But where is the money coming from?
View attachment 323838
47.6% of the Medicaid budget of states, comes from Federal money.
As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
So the country can go to hell in a debt crash like Greece... as long as you get what you want? You know everyone else living off the tax payers, says the same thing?
Look you can't have it both ways. You can't complain that Trump is over spending, and then turn around and complain that Trump isn't spending enough.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
Great. We agree. Which candidate would you point to, that wants to cut entitlement spending?
SSI does not go into the general fund. It goes int it's own fund. It's a trust. The other taxes are taxes. SS has never been a tax and that's MY MONEY. I pay into that fund every month even though I do collect it. But my income, part of it still pays SS. I could elect not to pay it month to month. But my Government Retirement still pays SS. But it's not a Tax. It just means that if more people do that, the SS system will last longer. That is, unless the Politicos don't get any greedier than they already are.
You can call it anything you want but I could not have paid a dime into SS and no money would have been waiting for me like it is today. Again, it's not a tax. It's a trust. One trust that your buddies need to stop dipping into when they find themselves overwhelmed through insane spending.
Robot Check
Read the book. Social Security never had a separate fund. It's not a trust. There is on trust. If you were to organize a gang, and go rob the Social Security Trust Fund, you would end up spending more money on gas, than you stole from the Trust fund, because there is no trust fund.
When Obama told you people, that if they didn't raise the debt limit, that Social Security checks were going to be cut, he wasn't lying.
Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3
In CBS News interview, President Obama says Social Security checks may not go out Aug. 3 if no deficit deal is struck
That was not a lie. There is no money in Social Security. None. Social Security is paid out of general revenue. Social Security taxes go into the General Revenue. That is how social security was setup since FDR.
There is no money waiting for you today.
Listen..... If all the tax payers today, refused to pay Social Security, there would be zero money in social security. There is no money waiting for you.
Our system works identically to Greece's system. That's why when the government went bankrupt, all the pensioners sat outside and wept bitterly because they had nothing.
The only money you have for retirement, guaranteed that is waiting for you, is the money you save and invest.
And let me warn you about something else. If the next generation of tax payers decides they don't want to pay for your retirement, they can take it from you. Unlike your 401K where you can take your investment to court, and demand compensation... you have ZERO legal right to social security. You can go look up the court case from the 1960s. You have no legal right to Social Security. None. That's what the Supreme Court of the US said.
And you want to know why? Because Social Security is an income tax, and a welfare program, just like I said. The court said you have no more of a right to Social Security, than you do a welfare check.
Because that's what Social Security is. By the way FDR himself in court, argued that Social Security was an income tax and welfare system.
This is the truth. These are the facts. Read the book. Learn.
The book isn't correct and never has been. It's a conspiracy writer. So, we just cue the music
Robot Check
Read the book. Social Security never had a separate fund. It's not a trust. There is on trust. If you were to organize a gang, and go rob the Social Security Trust Fund, you would end up spending more money on gas, than you stole from the Trust fund, because there is no trust fund.
When Obama told you people, that if they didn't raise the debt limit, that Social Security checks were going to be cut, he wasn't lying.
Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3
In CBS News interview, President Obama says Social Security checks may not go out Aug. 3 if no deficit deal is struck
That was not a lie. There is no money in Social Security. None. Social Security is paid out of general revenue. Social Security taxes go into the General Revenue. That is how social security was setup since FDR.
There is no money waiting for you today.
Listen..... If all the tax payers today, refused to pay Social Security, there would be zero money in social security. There is no money waiting for you.
Our system works identically to Greece's system. That's why when the government went bankrupt, all the pensioners sat outside and wept bitterly because they had nothing.
The only money you have for retirement, guaranteed that is waiting for you, is the money you save and invest.
And let me warn you about something else. If the next generation of tax payers decides they don't want to pay for your retirement, they can take it from you. Unlike your 401K where you can take your investment to court, and demand compensation... you have ZERO legal right to social security. You can go look up the court case from the 1960s. You have no legal right to Social Security. None. That's what the Supreme Court of the US said.
And you want to know why? Because Social Security is an income tax, and a welfare program, just like I said. The court said you have no more of a right to Social Security, than you do a welfare check.
Because that's what Social Security is. By the way FDR himself in court, argued that Social Security was an income tax and welfare system.
This is the truth. These are the facts. Read the book. Learn.
The book isn't correct and never has been. It's a conspiracy writer. So, we just cue the music
I don't know what book you're talking about, but Andylusion is correct. The so-called "trust fund" has no real assets in it.
Go ahead, we are interested in hearing these wonderful successes.
Please, list the countries.
The USA. The federal government will, within a couple of weeks, be the biggest shareholder in American Airlines. They will also own parts of Southwest, Jet Blue, United, and other airlines. Meantime, they are sending out checks for $1,200 to everybody , as well as propping up private industry with $2.2 trillion dollars, not to mention the billions already given to farmers. In short, Trump makes Karl Marx look like a fiscal conservative.
I agree. Which of your candidates proposes dramatically cutting government spending?
Rigth now, the real question is s which one will NOT increase the government spending at the rate of the Rump. The US will be in serious trouble (before the Virus) by 2025 and if we continued (without the virus) and past the point of no return. Now, enter the 1200 buck and more per citizen check and we have to do something fast. Not only do we need to trim the fat at the Government, it's going to take higher taxes for everyone. Otherwise, the US joins Greece. And the last thing I would care to see is for the EU to call the shots in America like they do in Greece. Rump is NOT the President to go into 2021 with financially.
Great.. which of your candidates will reduce the increase in spending on Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Social Security, and the endless entitlements that make up 3/4ths of the Federal Budget? Which one?
Greece had drastically higher tax rates than the US, and they went bankrupt. Increasing taxes is not the solution, or Greece should be the economic leader of Europe.
Rump is decreasing medicare, Medicaid, SS. And my SS is NOT an entitlement. I paid into that fund for decades and it's MY MONEY. I pay every month for Medicare. I don't qualify for Medicaid since I make too much and don't really miss it anyway. And Medicaid is a State Run program. As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
Greece made some serious economical blunders. Taxes didn't cover it and the people refused to pay any more tax increases. In affect, Greece was bailed out by the rest of the EU. It's a forgone conclusion that the year 2025 (without that 1200 bucks that just showed up in my account this morning) is the point of no return if the US continues the same path under Rump's guidance. No Economist has had the balls to come out with exactly when the US will be bankrupt or drop to a triple B credit rating (which means no more loans and it's pay as you go). But in 2025, that is exactly what will happen. Not the end of the world but you can definitely see the end of the world from there.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
You paid taxes into the government for decades. It's no more "Your money" than my taxes used to pay for your Social Security, is my money.
Social Security, is a tax... and a welfare payment. It is no different than your Federal gasoline tax, and food stamps. No different than your Federal cell phone tax, and an Obama phone. No different than the estate tax, and government housing for a druggie.
Medicaid is state run? But where is the money coming from?
View attachment 323838
47.6% of the Medicaid budget of states, comes from Federal money.
As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
So the country can go to hell in a debt crash like Greece... as long as you get what you want? You know everyone else living off the tax payers, says the same thing?
Look you can't have it both ways. You can't complain that Trump is over spending, and then turn around and complain that Trump isn't spending enough.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
Great. We agree. Which candidate would you point to, that wants to cut entitlement spending?
SSI does not go into the general fund. It goes int it's own fund. It's a trust. The other taxes are taxes. SS has never been a tax and that's MY MONEY. I pay into that fund every month even though I do collect it. But my income, part of it still pays SS. I could elect not to pay it month to month. But my Government Retirement still pays SS. But it's not a Tax. It just means that if more people do that, the SS system will last longer. That is, unless the Politicos don't get any greedier than they already are.
You can call it anything you want but I could not have paid a dime into SS and no money would have been waiting for me like it is today. Again, it's not a tax. It's a trust. One trust that your buddies need to stop dipping into when they find themselves overwhelmed through insane spending.
Robot Check
Read the book. Social Security never had a separate fund. It's not a trust. There is on trust. If you were to organize a gang, and go rob the Social Security Trust Fund, you would end up spending more money on gas, than you stole from the Trust fund, because there is no trust fund.
When Obama told you people, that if they didn't raise the debt limit, that Social Security checks were going to be cut, he wasn't lying.
Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3
In CBS News interview, President Obama says Social Security checks may not go out Aug. 3 if no deficit deal is struck
That was not a lie. There is no money in Social Security. None. Social Security is paid out of general revenue. Social Security taxes go into the General Revenue. That is how social security was setup since FDR.
There is no money waiting for you today.
Listen..... If all the tax payers today, refused to pay Social Security, there would be zero money in social security. There is no money waiting for you.
Our system works identically to Greece's system. That's why when the government went bankrupt, all the pensioners sat outside and wept bitterly because they had nothing.
The only money you have for retirement, guaranteed that is waiting for you, is the money you save and invest.
And let me warn you about something else. If the next generation of tax payers decides they don't want to pay for your retirement, they can take it from you. Unlike your 401K where you can take your investment to court, and demand compensation... you have ZERO legal right to social security. You can go look up the court case from the 1960s. You have no legal right to Social Security. None. That's what the Supreme Court of the US said.
And you want to know why? Because Social Security is an income tax, and a welfare program, just like I said. The court said you have no more of a right to Social Security, than you do a welfare check.
Because that's what Social Security is. By the way FDR himself in court, argued that Social Security was an income tax and welfare system.
This is the truth. These are the facts. Read the book. Learn.
The book isn't correct and never has been. It's a conspiracy writer. So, we just cue the music
If you can prove even one single sentence of that book as a lie, I'd love to see your proof.
Until then, you are just a liar now.
Go ahead, we are interested in hearing these wonderful successes.
Please, list the countries.
The USA. The federal government will, within a couple of weeks, be the biggest shareholder in American Airlines. They will also own parts of Southwest, Jet Blue, United, and other airlines. Meantime, they are sending out checks for $1,200 to everybody , as well as propping up private industry with $2.2 trillion dollars, not to mention the billions already given to farmers. In short, Trump makes Karl Marx look like a fiscal conservative.
I agree. Which of your candidates proposes dramatically cutting government spending?
Rigth now, the real question is s which one will NOT increase the government spending at the rate of the Rump. The US will be in serious trouble (before the Virus) by 2025 and if we continued (without the virus) and past the point of no return. Now, enter the 1200 buck and more per citizen check and we have to do something fast. Not only do we need to trim the fat at the Government, it's going to take higher taxes for everyone. Otherwise, the US joins Greece. And the last thing I would care to see is for the EU to call the shots in America like they do in Greece. Rump is NOT the President to go into 2021 with financially.
Great.. which of your candidates will reduce the increase in spending on Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Social Security, and the endless entitlements that make up 3/4ths of the Federal Budget? Which one?
Greece had drastically higher tax rates than the US, and they went bankrupt. Increasing taxes is not the solution, or Greece should be the economic leader of Europe.
Rump is decreasing medicare, Medicaid, SS. And my SS is NOT an entitlement. I paid into that fund for decades and it's MY MONEY. I pay every month for Medicare. I don't qualify for Medicaid since I make too much and don't really miss it anyway. And Medicaid is a State Run program. As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
Greece made some serious economical blunders. Taxes didn't cover it and the people refused to pay any more tax increases. In affect, Greece was bailed out by the rest of the EU. It's a forgone conclusion that the year 2025 (without that 1200 bucks that just showed up in my account this morning) is the point of no return if the US continues the same path under Rump's guidance. No Economist has had the balls to come out with exactly when the US will be bankrupt or drop to a triple B credit rating (which means no more loans and it's pay as you go). But in 2025, that is exactly what will happen. Not the end of the world but you can definitely see the end of the world from there.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
You paid taxes into the government for decades. It's no more "Your money" than my taxes used to pay for your Social Security, is my money.
Social Security, is a tax... and a welfare payment. It is no different than your Federal gasoline tax, and food stamps. No different than your Federal cell phone tax, and an Obama phone. No different than the estate tax, and government housing for a druggie.
Medicaid is state run? But where is the money coming from?
View attachment 323838
47.6% of the Medicaid budget of states, comes from Federal money.
As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
So the country can go to hell in a debt crash like Greece... as long as you get what you want? You know everyone else living off the tax payers, says the same thing?
Look you can't have it both ways. You can't complain that Trump is over spending, and then turn around and complain that Trump isn't spending enough.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
Great. We agree. Which candidate would you point to, that wants to cut entitlement spending?
SSI does not go into the general fund. It goes int it's own fund. It's a trust. The other taxes are taxes. SS has never been a tax and that's MY MONEY. I pay into that fund every month even though I do collect it. But my income, part of it still pays SS. I could elect not to pay it month to month. But my Government Retirement still pays SS. But it's not a Tax. It just means that if more people do that, the SS system will last longer. That is, unless the Politicos don't get any greedier than they already are.
You can call it anything you want but I could not have paid a dime into SS and no money would have been waiting for me like it is today. Again, it's not a tax. It's a trust. One trust that your buddies need to stop dipping into when they find themselves overwhelmed through insane spending.
Robot Check
Read the book. Social Security never had a separate fund. It's not a trust. There is on trust. If you were to organize a gang, and go rob the Social Security Trust Fund, you would end up spending more money on gas, than you stole from the Trust fund, because there is no trust fund.
When Obama told you people, that if they didn't raise the debt limit, that Social Security checks were going to be cut, he wasn't lying.
Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3
In CBS News interview, President Obama says Social Security checks may not go out Aug. 3 if no deficit deal is struck
That was not a lie. There is no money in Social Security. None. Social Security is paid out of general revenue. Social Security taxes go into the General Revenue. That is how social security was setup since FDR.
There is no money waiting for you today.
Listen..... If all the tax payers today, refused to pay Social Security, there would be zero money in social security. There is no money waiting for you.
Our system works identically to Greece's system. That's why when the government went bankrupt, all the pensioners sat outside and wept bitterly because they had nothing.
The only money you have for retirement, guaranteed that is waiting for you, is the money you save and invest.
And let me warn you about something else. If the next generation of tax payers decides they don't want to pay for your retirement, they can take it from you. Unlike your 401K where you can take your investment to court, and demand compensation... you have ZERO legal right to social security. You can go look up the court case from the 1960s. You have no legal right to Social Security. None. That's what the Supreme Court of the US said.
And you want to know why? Because Social Security is an income tax, and a welfare program, just like I said. The court said you have no more of a right to Social Security, than you do a welfare check.
Because that's what Social Security is. By the way FDR himself in court, argued that Social Security was an income tax and welfare system.
This is the truth. These are the facts. Read the book. Learn.
The book isn't correct and never has been. It's a conspiracy writer. So, we just cue the music
If you can prove even one single sentence of that book as a lie, I'd love to see your proof.
Until then, you are just a liar now.
The lie is in your presenting it to make your argument. Your argument fails. No where in that book does it say that there is NO SS fund. But it does talk about those that don't need it. But the problem is, they paid a kings ransom in and get quite a bit of it back. I think he would agree that we need a cap on income when you are drawing SS. But he just complains about other things. But nowhere does he say that there isn't a seperate fund for SS. But he does not call it an entitlement so you assume that's what he means.
He also goes into Medicare and Medicaid. While Medicaid is free, Medicare is not. I pay every month for Plan B since by law, I have to have it to retain my Tricare. I would love to get rid of Medicare Part B and go with a better alternative. But if I never had the option for Medicare, my Tricare would cover almost every dime save anywhere from 175 to 350 bucks a year. Yes, Medicare is an entitlement. And, in case you haven't noticed, Medicaid is controlled by the State more than the Feds regardless of where the money comes from. Medicaid is an entitlement but without it, the really poor would be sent home to die.
Then he goes off on Welfare. Hell, I go off on welfare. And I know there are able bodies that draw welfare. But there is a limit to how long they can do that. Most Able Bodied Workers that draw some form of Welfare are EMPLOYED!. There is no way that the jobs offered to them can make it to a Living Wage. I know BBAs that work retail. I know of one Geologist driving school bus. And they are all eligible for some form of Welfare. But Welfare programs like SNAP needs to be cleaned up. Exactly why would anyone need Energy Drinks and Soft Drinks? There are a lot of things like that including the Cash Draw. Your Author doesn't cover those very well.
Mostly the book is a bitch session trying to get us ready for cuts in many badly needed(and poorly run) programs. It doesn't cover Corporate Welfare on iota. And that's another book that should be written.
Go ahead, we are interested in hearing these wonderful successes.
Please, list the countries.
The USA. The federal government will, within a couple of weeks, be the biggest shareholder in American Airlines. They will also own parts of Southwest, Jet Blue, United, and other airlines. Meantime, they are sending out checks for $1,200 to everybody , as well as propping up private industry with $2.2 trillion dollars, not to mention the billions already given to farmers. In short, Trump makes Karl Marx look like a fiscal conservative.
I agree. Which of your candidates proposes dramatically cutting government spending?
Rigth now, the real question is s which one will NOT increase the government spending at the rate of the Rump. The US will be in serious trouble (before the Virus) by 2025 and if we continued (without the virus) and past the point of no return. Now, enter the 1200 buck and more per citizen check and we have to do something fast. Not only do we need to trim the fat at the Government, it's going to take higher taxes for everyone. Otherwise, the US joins Greece. And the last thing I would care to see is for the EU to call the shots in America like they do in Greece. Rump is NOT the President to go into 2021 with financially.
Great.. which of your candidates will reduce the increase in spending on Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Social Security, and the endless entitlements that make up 3/4ths of the Federal Budget? Which one?
Greece had drastically higher tax rates than the US, and they went bankrupt. Increasing taxes is not the solution, or Greece should be the economic leader of Europe.
Rump is decreasing medicare, Medicaid, SS. And my SS is NOT an entitlement. I paid into that fund for decades and it's MY MONEY. I pay every month for Medicare. I don't qualify for Medicaid since I make too much and don't really miss it anyway. And Medicaid is a State Run program. As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
Greece made some serious economical blunders. Taxes didn't cover it and the people refused to pay any more tax increases. In affect, Greece was bailed out by the rest of the EU. It's a forgone conclusion that the year 2025 (without that 1200 bucks that just showed up in my account this morning) is the point of no return if the US continues the same path under Rump's guidance. No Economist has had the balls to come out with exactly when the US will be bankrupt or drop to a triple B credit rating (which means no more loans and it's pay as you go). But in 2025, that is exactly what will happen. Not the end of the world but you can definitely see the end of the world from there.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
You paid taxes into the government for decades. It's no more "Your money" than my taxes used to pay for your Social Security, is my money.
Social Security, is a tax... and a welfare payment. It is no different than your Federal gasoline tax, and food stamps. No different than your Federal cell phone tax, and an Obama phone. No different than the estate tax, and government housing for a druggie.
Medicaid is state run? But where is the money coming from?
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47.6% of the Medicaid budget of states, comes from Federal money.
As for the VA, I am watching my Tricare go to hell in a hand basket these days. Like Medicare, the cost of it is progged to go up in 2021 if Rump get's his way.
So the country can go to hell in a debt crash like Greece... as long as you get what you want? You know everyone else living off the tax payers, says the same thing?
Look you can't have it both ways. You can't complain that Trump is over spending, and then turn around and complain that Trump isn't spending enough.
Now, enter the Virus and the Stimulus money. 2025 doesn't change but unless there is a HUGE change somewhere the end is nearer than before. Rump is NOT the brilliant Economist he claims to be. Not to say he hasn't had the brilliant economists available to him, he just ignores them. Time to let the Grownups take over. And NO, I am not saying Biden is a Grownup but he knows and listens to a whole hell of a lot of the grownups.
Great. We agree. Which candidate would you point to, that wants to cut entitlement spending?
SSI does not go into the general fund. It goes int it's own fund. It's a trust. The other taxes are taxes. SS has never been a tax and that's MY MONEY. I pay into that fund every month even though I do collect it. But my income, part of it still pays SS. I could elect not to pay it month to month. But my Government Retirement still pays SS. But it's not a Tax. It just means that if more people do that, the SS system will last longer. That is, unless the Politicos don't get any greedier than they already are.
You can call it anything you want but I could not have paid a dime into SS and no money would have been waiting for me like it is today. Again, it's not a tax. It's a trust. One trust that your buddies need to stop dipping into when they find themselves overwhelmed through insane spending.
Robot Check
Read the book. Social Security never had a separate fund. It's not a trust. There is on trust. If you were to organize a gang, and go rob the Social Security Trust Fund, you would end up spending more money on gas, than you stole from the Trust fund, because there is no trust fund.
When Obama told you people, that if they didn't raise the debt limit, that Social Security checks were going to be cut, he wasn't lying.
Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3
In CBS News interview, President Obama says Social Security checks may not go out Aug. 3 if no deficit deal is struck
That was not a lie. There is no money in Social Security. None. Social Security is paid out of general revenue. Social Security taxes go into the General Revenue. That is how social security was setup since FDR.
There is no money waiting for you today.
Listen..... If all the tax payers today, refused to pay Social Security, there would be zero money in social security. There is no money waiting for you.
Our system works identically to Greece's system. That's why when the government went bankrupt, all the pensioners sat outside and wept bitterly because they had nothing.
The only money you have for retirement, guaranteed that is waiting for you, is the money you save and invest.
And let me warn you about something else. If the next generation of tax payers decides they don't want to pay for your retirement, they can take it from you. Unlike your 401K where you can take your investment to court, and demand compensation... you have ZERO legal right to social security. You can go look up the court case from the 1960s. You have no legal right to Social Security. None. That's what the Supreme Court of the US said.
And you want to know why? Because Social Security is an income tax, and a welfare program, just like I said. The court said you have no more of a right to Social Security, than you do a welfare check.
Because that's what Social Security is. By the way FDR himself in court, argued that Social Security was an income tax and welfare system.
This is the truth. These are the facts. Read the book. Learn.
The book isn't correct and never has been. It's a conspiracy writer. So, we just cue the music
If you can prove even one single sentence of that book as a lie, I'd love to see your proof.
Until then, you are just a liar now.
The lie is in your presenting it to make your argument. Your argument fails. No where in that book does it say that there is NO SS fund. But it does talk about those that don't need it. But the problem is, they paid a kings ransom in and get quite a bit of it back. I think he would agree that we need a cap on income when you are drawing SS. But he just complains about other things. But nowhere does he say that there isn't a seperate fund for SS. But he does not call it an entitlement so you assume that's what he means.
He also goes into Medicare and Medicaid. While Medicaid is free, Medicare is not. I pay every month for Plan B since by law, I have to have it to retain my Tricare. I would love to get rid of Medicare Part B and go with a better alternative. But if I never had the option for Medicare, my Tricare would cover almost every dime save anywhere from 175 to 350 bucks a year. Yes, Medicare is an entitlement. And, in case you haven't noticed, Medicaid is controlled by the State more than the Feds regardless of where the money comes from. Medicaid is an entitlement but without it, the really poor would be sent home to die.
Then he goes off on Welfare. Hell, I go off on welfare. And I know there are able bodies that draw welfare. But there is a limit to how long they can do that. Most Able Bodied Workers that draw some form of Welfare are EMPLOYED!. There is no way that the jobs offered to them can make it to a Living Wage. I know BBAs that work retail. I know of one Geologist driving school bus. And they are all eligible for some form of Welfare. But Welfare programs like SNAP needs to be cleaned up. Exactly why would anyone need Energy Drinks and Soft Drinks? There are a lot of things like that including the Cash Draw. Your Author doesn't cover those very well.
Mostly the book is a bitch session trying to get us ready for cuts in many badly needed(and poorly run) programs. It doesn't cover Corporate Welfare on iota. And that's another book that should be written.
Then you didn't read the book. Because he detailed quiet clearly that there is no Social Security Fund. There never was.
Those that don't need it? Since when does "need" determine if you get a retirement?
I have a tons of money in purchased assets that I am have invested into for retirement. When I retire, is my 401K or IRA, or anything else, going to ask me "Do you really need this?".
And here's the other side... is it really a "Social Security Trust Fund", if they can simply determine that you don't "need" it, and therefore you can't have it?
The very fact that you can even discuss the possibility of denying people a return on the money "they paid in" proves conclusively everything I have been saying. Because in any other retirement system, no one could simply decide you didn't need it. The fact you can entertain the idea of confiscating people's retirements because they don't need it, proves it does not really exist.
If you tried to take my private 401K or IRA, I would sue the absolute crap out of you, and bankrupt your butt in court. I have legal rights, to my legal property, and I'll fight you for it until the end of time.
But Social Security, you own nothing. There is no account with your name on it. No money in a bank, and no assets that you own.
He also goes into Medicare and Medicaid. While Medicaid is free, Medicare is not. I pay every month for Plan B since by law, I have to have it to retain my Tricare.
That is not relevant. Medicare and Medicaid do not cover the full cost of care, whether you claim it is free or claim you have to pay for it.
If the cost of a service is $12,000 a year, and you pay only $1,000.... that's still a burden on government tax payers of $11,000 a year. So saying you have to pay a little, doesn't mean jack.
It doesn't cover Corporate Welfare on iota.
Name the corporate welfare. I dare you.
