How much is enough US aid to Ukraine?

[22lcidw]

This is not what I call "putting the screws to Putin".

"Trump has been reluctant to impose sanctions on Russia amid his efforts to improve relations between Washington and Moscow, and as recently as this week he continued his attempts to cast doubt on Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. Last year, the Trump administration was slow to enact sanctions punishing Russia for that interference."

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So, we made China "most favored nation". With no regard to their transgressions. Eastern Europe and Russia are their own entities with a relationship. And what is negotiable are what is in the traditional Russian sphere of influence.

 

[Billo_Really]

Don Jr had a meeting at Trump Tower with Russian oligarch's, specially to get dirt on Hillary Clinton. That is collusion

Trump said in a campaign speech on national TV, "Russia, if you are listening, find those Hillary emails!" That is collusion.

Carter Page, lobbying Russian oligarchs for two years to bring a Trmp Tower to Moscow, is collusion.

Taking Putin's side against our own Intel community on Russian interference in the 2016 election, is collusion.

 

[Billo_Really]

So, we made China "most favored nation". With no regard to their transgressions. Eastern Europe and Russia are their own entities with a relationship. And what is negotiable are what is in the traditional Russian sphere of influence.

And your point is what?

 

[Lesh]

Don Jr had a meeting at Trump Tower with Russian oligarch's, specially to get dirt on Hillary Clinton. That is collusion

Trump said in a campaign speech on national TV, "Russia, if you are listening, find those Hillary emails!" That is collusion.

Carter Page, lobbying Russian oligarchs for two years to bring a Trmp Tower to Moscow, is collusion.

Taking Putin's side against our own Intel community on Russian interference in the 2016 election, is collusion.

Don’t forget Trump’s campaign manager Manafort sharing internal GOP polling with Russians

 

[Dragonlady]

Let's be rational for a moment and consider what objectives have been served by continuing US military aid to Ukraine. (Note that Ukraine is not part of NATO, and that organization has no obligation to defend it.)
1. Was it to deter worldwide aggression by other countries?
2. Was it to defend democracy in Ukraine?
3. Was it to accomplish regime change in Russia?
4. Was it to militarily defeat Russia?

If you cab think of other objectives, please add them to this list. I don't think any of them are achievable or justify US involvement in a foreign war. To his credit, neither did President Obama in 2014. What changed? Why are we now borrowing billions of dollars from future generation to fund this futile exercise? How much is enough US aid to Ukraine?

Not only did you miss the target, you didn't even hit the tree.

1. It was to allow the Ukrainian people to defend themselves from Russian aggression.

That's it.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Oh I dunno OP, how much money is enough money going to Israel?

Isreal buys around $14 billion a year in American goods.
Which is about $5 billion more than we provide them in military support.
As of now, we have given Ukraine, in just 2 years, what we have given Isreal for the past 27 years.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

... and it is worth every cent because it keeps Putin looking under the couch and behind chairs of the bogyman.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You just have a serious case of TDS, and no cure you poor bastard.

Compassionate Conservatives Should Support a Program of Counseling and Drugs for the Pitiful Victims of TDS

 

[Dragonlady]

So, we made China "most favored nation". With no regard to their transgressions. Eastern Europe and Russia are their own entities with a relationship. And what is negotiable are what is in the traditional Russian sphere of influence.

China was made a "most favoured nation" so American companies could develop trading relationships with Chinese companies. The USA and Russia have had little to no trading relationships whatsoever throughout the Soviet years. When communism was overturned the Russians didn't allow any foreign investors to gain a foothold or ownership of Russian infrastructure, transportation or communications systems when the government auction of publically owned property took place.

The USA has no major trade with Russia or other former Warsaw Pact countries. .

Saying 'no' to a Ukrainian aid package has nothing to do with Putin. 'Russian collusion'?? The thing that got Trump impeached that was proven to be a lie? There is just as much evidence that the CIA took him out as there was for Putin taking him out, maybe more.

You just have a serious case of TDS, and no cure you poor bastard.

Talk about TDS!!! How could the CIA take out Navalny and why would they?

Your faith and belief in Trump and Putin is beyond gullible and stupid.