kyzr
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Some are moving without escorts today. We'll see how it end up.
Was this outcome anticipated? If it wasn't, why not?
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kyzr
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Nonsense. I've already posted the objectives several times.
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I've lost count. They change every day. Along with the normal chaos comes some unintended consequences. Russia says it is benefitting to the tune of $150M a day because of...........
Trump is ‘wrong’: Merz slams US decision to ease oil sanctions on Russia
Trump is ‘wrong’: Merz slams US decision to ease oil sanctions on Russia
“We want to ensure that Russia does not exploit the war in Iran to weaken Ukraine,” the German chancellor said.
www.politico.eu
Leave it to Don to figure out a way to let his buddy Vlad benefit from the war.
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In an effort to crack down on nations it views as promoting terrorism, the Trump administration has been carrying out a campaign of seizing tankers carrying oil, a move the president has repeatedly characterized as a financial boon for Americans.
But there’s a problem.
The seizures have put the U.S. government in a financial bind. The ships are highly expensive to maintain. And the Trump administration cannot legally sell their oil without a judge’s permission.
Maintaining the seized tankers has already cost the United States tens of millions of dollars — in one case, $47 million in only three months — and complicates Mr. Trump’s claims of swift financial victories from his military operations targeting Venezuela and Iran.
The situation is laid bare in U.S. District Court in Washington, where Trump officials are detailing the financial burden of maintaining a seized tanker.
But there’s a problem.
The seizures have put the U.S. government in a financial bind. The ships are highly expensive to maintain. And the Trump administration cannot legally sell their oil without a judge’s permission.
Maintaining the seized tankers has already cost the United States tens of millions of dollars — in one case, $47 million in only three months — and complicates Mr. Trump’s claims of swift financial victories from his military operations targeting Venezuela and Iran.
The situation is laid bare in U.S. District Court in Washington, where Trump officials are detailing the financial burden of maintaining a seized tanker.
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Trump wants U.S. Navy to escort tankers through the Gulf. Why that plan may not work
100 a day
About 100 tankers and cargo vessels pass through the Strait daily under normal conditions, said Matt Smith, an oil analyst at Kpler, and about 400 tankers are currently stuck in the Gulf due to the war.
“There’s hundreds and hundreds of vessels still in the Mideast Gulf,” said Matt Wright, a senior freight analyst, also at Kpler. The U.S. Navy would take “an inordinate amount of time to escort them even a few at a time.”
Trump’s promise to escort tankers if necessary, and provide political risk insurance to their owners, helped calm the oil market Tuesday and Wednesday.
Trump wants U.S. Navy to escort tankers through the Gulf. Why that plan may not work
A backup of oil tankers in the Persian Gulf is disrupting supplies, and will only get worse the longer the Strait of Hormuz is closed.www.cnbc.com
Even if the strait isn't completely closed oil will go higher until the normal volume of ships pass thru.
Maersk, a bellwether for global trade, suspends two key shipping services due to Iran war
Danish shipping giant Maersk on Friday temporarily suspended two services linking the Middle East to Asia and Europe as the Iran war continues to disrupt global supply chains.
The company, widely regarded as a barometer of global trade, said the decision to halt the FM1 service, connecting the Far East to the Middle East, and the ME11 Service, linking the Middle East to Europe, was a precautionary measure to ensure the safety of its personnel and vessels.
It comes as the U.S. and Israeli-led war on Iran enters its seventh day, with the expanding conflict resulting in the effective halt of shipping traffic through the strategically vital Strait of Hormuz.
The waterway is a key, narrow maritime corridor that connects the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman. Roughly 20% of global oil and gas typically passes through it.
Container shipping giants, however, have suspended operations through the Strait of Hormuz since the U.S. and Israel launched attacks on Iran on Feb. 28 and rerouted vessels around the southern tip of Africa.
Maersk, a bellwether for global trade, suspends two key shipping services due to Iran war
The update comes as the Iran war enters its seventh day and the escalating regional conflict continues to disrupt global supply chains.WTI crude tops $86, hits highest level since April 2024, Brent crude breaks above $89 a barrel
Oil surges 35% this week for biggest gain in futures trading history dating back to 1983
The oil market is worried that Gulf countries will have to shut production if tankers are unable to pass through the Strait of Hormuz.
Iran borders the Straight of Hormuz, through which 20% of the world's oil is shipped. Anyone familiar with the geography of the region knows this. And they knew how disruptive to shipping through the straight an attack on Iran would be. You'd have to be a moron not to understand this.
Begging the question, is the inevitable impact of trump's war with Iran the reason he did not take the legal route of seeking the approval of Congress to start it? Is it part of the plan?
Or one could ask, was a spike in the price of oil anticipated but dismissed as a price to be paid by US consumers (like the tariffs have been) worthy of the end game? I guess we'd have to know what the end game is before answering that question. Was it regime change?
Son of Khamenei Is Top Contender for Supreme Leader
Mojtaba Khamenei would likely lead country in even more hard-line direction
If it was, the war trump unnecessarily started was a reckless roll of the dice. The narrative for the rationale to start the war has constantly shifted leaving the timing of the off ramp in doubt. If Khamenei's kid becomes the leader does the war go on until he is killed too? Do we keep killing Iran's chosen leader until they pick one the master of regime change likes? If oil breaks over $90 a barrel does that change the calculus for ending the war?
Are members of the regime asking themselves these questions? Or is the US hostage to an oft used approach of trump's he has articulated quite often?
Trump’s catchphrase for any circumstance: “We’ll see”
WASHINGTON (AP) — When in doubt, President Donald Trump has a ready-made response to any questions: “We’ll see.”
On Wednesday, Trump delivered his go-to line repeatedly. Asked if he would tie debt ceiling legislation to Harvey relief: “We’ll see.” On his plans for an increasingly aggressive North Korea: “We’ll see.” And on efforts to work with the Chinese president: “We’ll see how that works out.”
Trump's catchphrase for any circumstance: "We'll see"
On Wednesday, Trump delivered his go-to line repeatedly.apnews.com
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Apparently the orange brain stem isn't feeling victory "in his bones" yet or the US wouldn't be sending another 2,500 Marines to the ME.
Mr. Trump has wrestled publicly with his stay-or-leave options, sometimes suggesting that the war is all but won and at others seeming to acknowledge that there is still heavy fighting ahead. The president, who said he ordered the attack because he had a “good feeling” that Iran was preparing to preemptively attack U.S. forces in the region, said the other day that he would also rely on his instincts on when to get out. He told Fox News he would “feel it in my bones.”
For what purpose? Another one of trump's "good feelings?" A special op to take Iran's enriched uranium? Isn't it likely they have dispersed it to various locations?
To take over the part of Iran bordering the strait? That's a large land mass. Is it feasible?
Perhaps it's time to consult a Ouija board.
Mr. Trump has wrestled publicly with his stay-or-leave options, sometimes suggesting that the war is all but won and at others seeming to acknowledge that there is still heavy fighting ahead. The president, who said he ordered the attack because he had a “good feeling” that Iran was preparing to preemptively attack U.S. forces in the region, said the other day that he would also rely on his instincts on when to get out. He told Fox News he would “feel it in my bones.”
For what purpose? Another one of trump's "good feelings?" A special op to take Iran's enriched uranium? Isn't it likely they have dispersed it to various locations?
To take over the part of Iran bordering the strait? That's a large land mass. Is it feasible?
Perhaps it's time to consult a Ouija board.
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You do see the giant flaw in that bullshit, right?
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He started the war to distract from the files.That part is working.Maersk, a bellwether for global trade, suspends two key shipping services due to Iran war
Danish shipping giant Maersk on Friday temporarily suspended two services linking the Middle East to Asia and Europe as the Iran war continues to disrupt global supply chains.
The company, widely regarded as a barometer of global trade, said the decision to halt the FM1 service, connecting the Far East to the Middle East, and the ME11 Service, linking the Middle East to Europe, was a precautionary measure to ensure the safety of its personnel and vessels.
It comes as the U.S. and Israeli-led war on Iran enters its seventh day, with the expanding conflict resulting in the effective halt of shipping traffic through the strategically vital Strait of Hormuz.
The waterway is a key, narrow maritime corridor that connects the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman. Roughly 20% of global oil and gas typically passes through it.
Container shipping giants, however, have suspended operations through the Strait of Hormuz since the U.S. and Israel launched attacks on Iran on Feb. 28 and rerouted vessels around the southern tip of Africa.
Maersk, a bellwether for global trade, suspends two key shipping services due to Iran war
The update comes as the Iran war enters its seventh day and the escalating regional conflict continues to disrupt global supply chains.WTI crude tops $86, hits highest level since April 2024, Brent crude breaks above $89 a barrel
Oil surges 35% this week for biggest gain in futures trading history dating back to 1983
The oil market is worried that Gulf countries will have to shut production if tankers are unable to pass through the Strait of Hormuz.
Iran borders the Straight of Hormuz, through which 20% of the world's oil is shipped. Anyone familiar with the geography of the region knows this. And they knew how disruptive to shipping through the straight an attack on Iran would be. You'd have to be a moron not to understand this.
Begging the question, is the inevitable impact of trump's war with Iran the reason he did not take the legal route of seeking the approval of Congress to start it? Is it part of the plan?
Or one could ask, was a spike in the price of oil anticipated but dismissed as a price to be paid by US consumers (like the tariffs have been) worthy of the end game? I guess we'd have to know what the end game is before answering that question. Was it regime change?
Son of Khamenei Is Top Contender for Supreme Leader
Mojtaba Khamenei would likely lead country in even more hard-line direction
If it was, the war trump unnecessarily started was a reckless roll of the dice. The narrative for the rationale to start the war has constantly shifted leaving the timing of the off ramp in doubt. If Khamenei's kid becomes the leader does the war go on until he is killed too? Do we keep killing Iran's chosen leader until they pick one the master of regime change likes? If oil breaks over $90 a barrel does that change the calculus for ending the war?
Are members of the regime asking themselves these questions? Or is the US hostage to an oft used approach of trump's he has articulated quite often?
Trump’s catchphrase for any circumstance: “We’ll see”
WASHINGTON (AP) — When in doubt, President Donald Trump has a ready-made response to any questions: “We’ll see.”
On Wednesday, Trump delivered his go-to line repeatedly. Asked if he would tie debt ceiling legislation to Harvey relief: “We’ll see.” On his plans for an increasingly aggressive North Korea: “We’ll see.” And on efforts to work with the Chinese president: “We’ll see how that works out.”
Trump's catchphrase for any circumstance: "We'll see"
On Wednesday, Trump delivered his go-to line repeatedly.
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Iran doesn’t need to close the strait in a conventional sense. Simply creating a non-trivial risk that tankers might be damaged or sunk is enough to keep most tanker traffic from going through. In other words, even if Iran is militarily on its back, just keeping aerial and naval drones at ready or on patrol might be enough to cause a global oil supply crisis for the foreseeable future.
kyzr
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So when the escorts arrive you will be upset that the straight is open? Typical unAmerican democrat.
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"Believing you have the right to control other people's lives." Interesting.
President Donald Trump on Monday said he thinks he will have the “honor” of “taking Cuba,” speaking during an executive order signing at the White House.
“Whether I free it, take it, I think I can do anything I want with it,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office with Vice President JD Vance standing behind him. “They’re a very weakened nation right now.”
The president’s comments on taking Cuba come as he carries out a war in Iran that is stretching into its third week. Trump has encouraged the people of Iran to depose their government in that conflict, one of a litany of reasons he has given for starting the war.
Trump says he thinks he will have the 'honor' of 'taking Cuba'
The president recently launched a war in Iran after topping Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro by force.
www.cnbc.com
You never want to see an egotistical, narcissistic, megalomaniac who is drunk with power.
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