Was this outcome anticipated? If it wasn't, why not?

[berg80]

So when the escorts arrive you will be upset that the straight is open? Typical unAmerican democrat.

I grow tired of speciously being accused by a cultist of being un-American for pointing out trump's idiocy. And yours for supporting him.

 

[Hafar1014]

Trump is murdering his own citizens, and these guys excuse and support it.

You people murder each other and you support it. How dumb is that
Key Statistics on Black Homicide Victimization

• High Percentage of Intraracial Homicide: Historically, roughly 90% of Black murder victims were killed by other Black individuals.
• Recent Trends: In 2022, 76.5% of Black homicide victims for whom the offender relationship was known were killed by someone they knew.
• Disproportionate Impact: Black Americans are disproportionately affected by homicide. While representing approximately 13-14% of the U.S. population, Black Americans accounted for 53.8% of all homicide victims in 2023.
• Homicide Rate: In 2022, the homicide victimization rate for Black male victims was 50.5 per 100,000, which is significantly higher than the overall male homicide rate of 12.3 per 100,000.
• Firearm Usage: In 2023, 86% of Black homicide victims were killed with firearms.
• Circumstances: For homicides where the context was identified, the majority (81.3% in 2023) were not related to the commission of another felony, such as robbery, but rather often involved arguments.
  
  
  CeaseFirePA +4

 

[Mac1958]

Begging the question, is the inevitable impact of trump's war with Iran the reason he did not take the legal route of seeking the approval of Congress to start it? Is it part of the plan?

So yesterday, Trump said "no one expected Iran to attack other states".

That, of course, is a goddamn lie. The Pentagon routinely runs full war games on every possible imaginable scenario, and no doubt this possibility has been discussed any number of times during those war games.

The problem is that either Trump was told and ignored it, or he never bothered to ask people outside his little obedient, retarded, profoundly unqualified circle.

He's CIC. This mess is ALL on HIM.

 

[mudwhistle]

"Believing you have the right to control other people's lives." Interesting.

President Donald Trump on Monday said he thinks he will have the “honor” of “taking Cuba,” speaking during an executive order signing at the White House.

“Whether I free it, take it, I think I can do anything I want with it,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office with Vice President JD Vance standing behind him. “They’re a very weakened nation right now.”

The president’s comments on taking Cuba come as he carries out a war in Iran that is stretching into its third week. Trump has encouraged the people of Iran to depose their government in that conflict, one of a litany of reasons he has given for starting the war.

Trump says he thinks he will have the 'honor' of 'taking Cuba'

The president recently launched a war in Iran after topping Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro by force.

www.cnbc.com

You never want to see an egotistical, narcissistic, megalomaniac who is drunk with power.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Maersk, a bellwether for global trade, suspends two key shipping services due to Iran war​

Danish shipping giant Maersk on Friday temporarily suspended two services linking the Middle East to Asia and Europe as the Iran war continues to disrupt global supply chains.

The company, widely regarded as a barometer of global trade, said the decision to halt the FM1 service, connecting the Far East to the Middle East, and the ME11 Service, linking the Middle East to Europe, was a precautionary measure to ensure the safety of its personnel and vessels.

It comes as the U.S. and Israeli-led war on Iran enters its seventh day, with the expanding conflict resulting in the effective halt of shipping traffic through the strategically vital Strait of Hormuz.

The waterway is a key, narrow maritime corridor that connects the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman. Roughly 20% of global oil and gas typically passes through it.

Container shipping giants, however, have suspended operations through the Strait of Hormuz since the U.S. and Israel launched attacks on Iran on Feb. 28 and rerouted vessels around the southern tip of Africa.

Maersk, a bellwether for global trade, suspends two key shipping services due to Iran war

The update comes as the Iran war enters its seventh day and the escalating regional conflict continues to disrupt global supply chains.

www.cnbc.com

WTI crude tops $86, hits highest level since April 2024, Brent crude breaks above $89 a barrel​

WTI crude tops $86, hits highest level since April 2024, Brent crude breaks above $89 a barrel

The oil market is worried that Gulf countries will have to shut production if tankers are unable to pass the the Strait of Hormuz.

www.cnbc.com

Iran borders the Straight of Hormuz, through which 20% of the world's oil is shipped. Anyone familiar with the geography of the region knows this. And they knew how disruptive to shipping through the straight an attack on Iran would be. You'd have to be a moron not to understand this.

Begging the question, is the inevitable impact of trump's war with Iran the reason he did not take the legal route of seeking the approval of Congress to start it? Is it part of the plan?

Or one could ask, was a spike in the price of oil anticipated but dismissed as a price to be paid by US consumers (like the tariffs have been) worthy of the end game? I guess we'd have to know what the end game is before answering that question. Was it regime change?

Son of Khamenei Is Top Contender for Supreme Leader​

Mojtaba Khamenei would likely lead country in even more hard-line direction​

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/son-of-khamenei-is-top-contender-for-supreme-leader-4b78f25a?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqe-pOqkCRr9Is2GLDe7OyZc2pbZPVEXaYQIXAc6sDpxx3M3yWedb5WlCauhcQY%3D&gaa_ts=69aad41c&gaa_sig=EuZvxOePegwyDjsxFZwwcEHXuhV3bW9Q5foER0-zoAAIPUvG-6Dtm_BrFDcsdJ5WEZeRQf2mZdiVR42JB6aWKQ%3D%3D

If it was, the war trump unnecessarily started was a reckless roll of the dice. The narrative for the rationale to start the war has constantly shifted leaving the timing of the off ramp in doubt. If Khamenei's kid becomes the leader does the war go on until he is killed too? Do we keep killing Iran's chosen leader until they pick one the master of regime change likes? If oil breaks over $90 a barrel does that change the calculus for ending the war?

Are members of the regime asking themselves these questions? Or is the US hostage to an oft used approach of trump's he has articulated quite often?

Trump’s catchphrase for any circumstance: “We’ll see”​

WASHINGTON (AP) — When in doubt, President Donald Trump has a ready-made response to any questions: “We’ll see.”

On Wednesday, Trump delivered his go-to line repeatedly. Asked if he would tie debt ceiling legislation to Harvey relief: “We’ll see.” On his plans for an increasingly aggressive North Korea: “We’ll see.” And on efforts to work with the Chinese president: “We’ll see how that works out.”

Trump's catchphrase for any circumstance: "We'll see"

On Wednesday, Trump delivered his go-to line repeatedly.

apnews.com

Trump never talked to any allies about this, Jared had a "Feeling"

 

[mudwhistle]

So yesterday, Trump said "no one expected Iran to attack other states".

That, of course, is a goddamn lie. The Pentagon routinely runs full war games on every possible imaginable scenario, and no doubt this possibility has been discussed any number of times during those war games.

The problem is that either Trump was told and ignored it, or he never bothered to ask people outside his little obedient, retarded, profoundly unqualified circle.

He's CIC. This is all on HIM.

 

[kyzr]

I grow tired of speciously being accused by a cultist of being un-American for pointing out trump's idiocy. And yours for supporting him.

Your post (below) is hoping Iran can "cause a global oil supply crisis" when Americans, and oil futures, are predicting an end to the war and there will be no "oil supply crisis". Supporting Trump is the only option when democrats are insanely stupid.

"In other words, even if Iran is militarily on its back, just keeping aerial and naval drones at ready or on patrol might be enough to cause a global oil supply crisis for the foreseeable future."

 

[kyzr]

So yesterday, Trump said "no one expected Iran to attack other states".
That, of course, is a goddamn lie. The Pentagon routinely runs full war games on every possible imaginable scenario, and no doubt this possibility has been discussed any number of times during those war games.
The problem is that either Trump was told and ignored it, or he never bothered to ask people outside his little obedient, retarded, profoundly unqualified circle. He's CIC. This mess is ALL on HIM.

That Iran attacked other Gulf states is a plus for Trump and a negative for Iran.
Anticipating drone or missile attacks from Iran should have been addressed by the Gulf states, they should have purchased adequate anti-drone and anti-missile systems.
There is no "mess" except in Iran.

 

[berg80]

So yesterday, Trump said "no one expected Iran to attack other states".

That, of course, is a goddamn lie. The Pentagon routinely runs full war games on every possible imaginable scenario, and no doubt this possibility has been discussed any number of times during those war games.

The problem is that either Trump was told and ignored it, or he never bothered to ask people outside his little obedient, retarded, profoundly unqualified circle.

He's CIC. This mess is ALL on HIM.

It remains my thesis that, as the regime told us, Dotard decided to attack based on Israel's timetable which was driven by intel on a gathering of Iran's government. The implications for what would come next, to the extent they were discussed, were disregarded.

 

[berg80]

Your post (below) is hoping Iran can "cause a global oil supply crisis" when Americans, and oil futures, are predicting an end to the war and there will be no "oil supply crisis".

One last time, pointing out trump's idiocy and miscalculations is not cheering for Iran. The fact that you keep trying to make it so is simply reflective of a refusal to acknowledge Dotard's mistakes.

 

[kyzr]

It remains my thesis that, as the regime told us, Dotard decided to attack based on Israel's timetable which was driven by intel on a gathering of Iran's government. The implications for what would come next, to the extent they were discussed, were disregarded.

Nonsense as usual.
We know that Admiral Cooper made the detailed plans for the Iran war based on very detailed information gathering.
Those detailed plans probably took months to develop, along with getting the forces and munitions deployed.

 

[berg80]

Nonsense as usual.
We know that Admiral Cooper made the detailed plans for the Iran war based on very detailed information gathering.
Those detailed plans probably took months to develop, along with getting the forces and munitions deployed.

According to you, R's were cheering for the Taliban when it criticized what happened during the US withdrawal from Afghanistan.

 

[kyzr]

One last time, pointing out trump's idiocy and miscalculations is not cheering for Iran.

What "idiocy and miscalculations"? There were none. So yes your lies are "cheering for Iran".

The fact that you keep trying to make it so is simply reflective of a refusal to acknowledge Dotard's mistakes.

You keep typing lies without proving any Trump "mistakes".

 

[Mac1958]

He must be an evil commie.

 

[kyzr]

According to you, R's were cheering for the Taliban when it criticized what happened during the US withdrawal from Afghanistan.

More lies.
1. R's were criticizing Biden for abandoning $80b of US military equipment to the Taliban
2. R's were criticizing Biden for not authorizing a US sniper to kill the ISIS suicide bomber, after the Taliban said to kill him
3. R's were criticizing Biden for being held in CONTEMPT by the Brits and other US allies

 

[berg80]

You keep typing lies without proving any Trump "mistakes".

Speaking honestly, what are the chances you would admit to a mistake made by trump?

 

[berg80]

R's were criticizing Biden for abandoning $80b of US military equipment to the Taliban

Did trump's plan for withdrawal include bringing that equipment with us when we left?

According to a 2022 Department of Defense report, the United States left behind an estimated $7.12 billion worth of U.S.-funded military equipment in Afghanistan following the withdrawal in August 2021.

 

[kyzr]

He must be an evil commie.

No, he probably wants to be on the MSM circuit like Adam Kinzinger.

 

[kyzr]

Speaking honestly, what are the chances you would admit to a mistake made by trump?

I am a fair poster. I don't like letting Russia sell oil, but is it a mistake or a business/economic decision.
So put up your list of "Trump mistakes" and we can discuss/debate them.

 

[kyzr]

Did trump's plan for withdrawal include bringing that equipment with us when we left?

I'm sure, Trump was going to push to keep Bagram open.

According to a 2022 Department of Defense report, the United States left behind an estimated $7.12 billion worth of U.S.-funded military equipment in Afghanistan following the withdrawal in August 2021.

Ok, this link says $10b, so $80b is too high. Still too much to gift to the Taliban

Here’s the List of Billions in Military Equipment the US Left Behind for the Taliban

“The Taliban now has more Black Hawk helicopters than 85% of the countries in the world,” Congressman Jim Banks, a veteran, lamented. “But it's not just weapons. They have night vision goggles and body armor."

fee.org