Virginia and New Jersey Bellwether Elections

[Sinatra]

As voters near the November 2009 elections, current polling shows a comfortable leads for both candidates for governor of those respective states.

Republican Bob McDonnel has a 12 point lead over Democrat rival Creigh Deeds - despite recent negative press over a thesis McDonnel wrote 20 years ago that touched on such divisive social issues as homosexuality and feminism. Virginia voters appear to be shrugging over the thesis controversy, with McDonnel actually increasing his lead over Deeds since the story broke.

In New Jersey, while the race for governor there so far remains less controversial than Virginia, it is no less important. Republican candidate Chris Christie, who is as conservative a candidate for the New Jersey governor's mansion in some time, enjoys a 6.5% lead over his Democrat opponent an current New Jersey governor and former Goldman Sachs CEO Jon Corzine.


If both of these gubernatorial races go to Republicans, they could very well signal the decisive shift back to conservative values some are calling for to come in the 2010 midterm elections...


RealClearPolitics - Election 2009 Polls

 

[rightwinger]

In NJ it is far from bellwether

Corzine is universally disliked. It has nothing to do with the national party

 

[garyd]

It isn't a shift back if one recognizes the last election for what it truly was, a national referendum on the TARP bail out which McCain enthusiastically endorsed while Obama seemed at best luke warm. Obama won largely because McCain seemed at the time more left than did Obama to a lot of independents and conservative Democrats.

 

[Sinatra]

It isn't a shift back if one recognizes the last election for what it truly was, a national referendum on the TARP bail out which McCain enthusiastically endorsed while Obama seemed at best luke warm. Obama won largely because McCain seemed at the time more left than did Obama to a lot of independents and conservative Democrats.

McCain was white.

THAT was the deciding factor of the election.

Obama was the legacy candidate - it felt GOOD to elect the nice colored fella.

Not sayin' all who voted for him was because of that - but a great many...

 

[PoliticalChic]

As voters near the November 2009 elections, current polling shows a comfortable leads for both candidates for governor of those respective states.

Republican Bob McDonnel has a 12 point lead over Democrat rival Creigh Deeds - despite recent negative press over a thesis McDonnel wrote 20 years ago that touched on such divisive social issues as homosexuality and feminism. Virginia voters appear to be shrugging over the thesis controversy, with McDonnel actually increasing his lead over Deeds since the story broke.

In New Jersey, while the race for governor there so far remains less controversial than Virginia, it is no less important. Republican candidate Chris Christie, who is as conservative a candidate for the New Jersey governor's mansion in some time, enjoys a 6.5% lead over his Democrat opponent an current New Jersey governor and former Goldman Sachs CEO Jon Corzine.


If both of these gubernatorial races go to Republicans, they could very well signal the decisive shift back to conservative values some are calling for to come in the 2010 midterm elections...


RealClearPolitics - Election 2009 Polls

In Jersey they have a plan.

If Corzine is way behind, switch candidates.

Let's see, Lautenberg is busy, how about ...Bill Clinton?

 

[Polk]

If both of these gubernatorial races go to Republicans, they could very well signal the decisive shift back to conservative values some are calling for to come in the 2010 midterm elections...

Makes sense. I mean, the Democrats regained control of Congress after winning these races in 2001. O wait, no, they lost the midterms.

 

[Sinatra]

If both of these gubernatorial races go to Republicans, they could very well signal the decisive shift back to conservative values some are calling for to come in the 2010 midterm elections...

Makes sense. I mean, the Democrats regained control of Congress after winning these races in 2001. O wait, no, they lost the midterms.

You underestimate the anti-liberal backlash that is fomenting not just in the US - but around the world...

 

[potter 58]

oh really Sin, that's why japan just kicked the Cons to the curb after 50 straight years in power

 

[Sinatra]

oh really Sin, that's why japan just kicked the Cons to the curb after 50 straight years in power

The LDP is hardly conservative by our more mainstream definition of it.

You would do well to review what the newly in power Democrat Party of Japan is promising:

-Consumer spending

-Cut wasteful government programs and wasteful personnel

-Reduce the power of government

-Tax cuts

-Pro family tax rebates

-Reduce the corporate tax rate from 18 percent to 11 percent

-Promote free trade deals


Now this party also has some pro-government safety net policies as well, including increasing their version of social security and the minimum wage, and promoting "green-friendly" policies, (parts of the platform that come from there absorbing the defunct Japanese Liberal Party, but all in all, the party that just won in Japan has more in common with American conservatives than they do American liberals. People are getting confused because the LDP party was the traditional party of Japan, a huge beauracratic tax and spend party. Traditional is not conservative - just as "new" is not liberal.

The LDP party that lost in Japan did so because of rampant corruption and a population grown weary of a stagnant economy due to over regulation and a prohibitive tax code. The short term stimulus projects that the LDP government was always implimenting never solved Japan's longer term employment issues, and contributed to the 200% of GDP national debt they are dealing with.

The victory for the Democrat Party of Japan was more so than not - a clear victory for conservative principles, and one that the rest of the world is engaged in as well - the primary factors in the election being opposition to a huge and ineficient government, a prohibitive tax code, economic stagnation, and a dangerous national debt.

FACTBOX: Japan opposition's election campaign platform | International | Reuters


http://sweetness-light.com/archive/europe-votes-in-rightwing-eu-parliament

Europe Elects Conservative Parliament


Europe leans right as voters choose EU Parliament
By Michael Weissenstein And Robert Wielaard, Associated Press Writer

BRUSSELS – Europe leaned to the right Sunday as tens of millions of people voted in European Parliament elections, with conservative parties leading or favored in many countries amid a global economic crisis.

Opinion surveys and exit polls showed right-leaning governments edging the opposition in Germany, Italy, France, Belgium and elsewhere. Conservative opposition parties were tied or ahead in Britain, Spain and some smaller countries....

 

[potter 58]

just admit it asswipe the far right wing radicals got their asses kicked to the curb, end of story, just like here

 

[Sinatra]

oh really Sin, that's why japan just kicked the Cons to the curb after 50 straight years in power

The LDP is hardly conservative by our more mainstream definition of it.

You would do well to review what the newly in power Democrat Party of Japan is promising:

-Consumer spending

-Cut wasteful government programs and wasteful personnel

-Reduce the power of government

-Tax cuts

-Pro family tax rebates

-Reduce the corporate tax rate from 18 percent to 11 percent

-Promote free trade deals


Now this party also has some pro-government safety net policies as well, including increasing their version of social security and the minimum wage, and promoting "green-friendly" policies, (parts of the platform that come from there absorbing the defunct but all in all, the party that just won in Japan has more in common with American conservatives than they do American liberals. People are getting confused because the LDP party was the traditional party of Japan, a huge beauracratic tax and spend party. Traditional is not conservative - just as "new" is not liberal.

The LDP party that lost in Japan did so because of rampant corruption and a population grown weary of a stagnant economy due to over regulation and a prohibitive tax code. The short term stimulus projects that the LDP government was always implimenting never solved Japan's longer term employment issues, and contributed to the 200% of GDP national debt they are dealing with.

The victory for the Democrat Party of Japan was more so than not - a clear victory for conservative principles, and one that the rest of the world is engaged in as well - the primary factors in the election being opposition to a huge and ineficient government, a prohibitive tax code, economic stagnation, and a dangerous national debt.

FACTBOX: Japan opposition's election campaign platform | International | Reuters


Europe Elects Conservative Parliament | Sweetness & Light

Europe Elects Conservative Parliament


Europe leans right as voters choose EU Parliament
By Michael Weissenstein And Robert Wielaard, Associated Press Writer

BRUSSELS – Europe leaned to the right Sunday as tens of millions of people voted in European Parliament elections, with conservative parties leading or favored in many countries amid a global economic crisis.

Opinion surveys and exit polls showed right-leaning governments edging the opposition in Germany, Italy, France, Belgium and elsewhere. Conservative opposition parties were tied or ahead in Britain, Spain and some smaller countries....

Read the post Potter.

There were no far right radicals in power in Japan - you know nothing of Japanese politics do you?

 

[potter 58]

well I guess you if they are left of the party that ruled for 50 years, you lost again, go figure

 

[Sinatra]

well I guess you if they are left of the party that ruled for 50 years, you lost again, go figure

How did I lose? I wasn't running for office in Japan!

I don't wish to demean you here - perhaps you could take this as an opportunity to learn a bit more about Japan.

Almost all of Japan leans socially conservative - certainly by American standards.

The former ruling party, the LDP (liberal Democrat Party) was a 50-year institution that fused Big Business with Big Government - similar to what happened to GM and Chrysler when the Obama administration took it over, except in this case, it has been going on for decades. The economy was a mix of exports brought on by the weak Yen, and big government infrastructure projects - again very similar to what the Obama administration is promising in the way of the stimulus bill.

The LDP itself was a mishmash of members - as all Japanese political parties have been, just as the newly in power Democrat Party of Japan(DPJ) is in fact made up of many former LDP members, government workers, wealthy technology company family members, economic "right wingers," and unions (In Japan these unions wish to break away from Big Government control, which they feel has led to worker wage stagnation and job insecurity). Also, it is believed that the DPJ will become more aggressive militarily than the LDP, and the Japanese have grown increasingly wary of both China and North Korea. It is quite possible the LDP leadership will begin an attempt to grow its military power - including nuclear.


Much like Europe, Japan is seeking a more conservative approach to its own economy, attempting to lessen its dependence upon Big Government.

 

[Oscar Wao]

If both of these gubernatorial races go to Republicans, they could very well signal the decisive shift back to conservative values some are calling for to come in the 2010 midterm elections...

Makes sense. I mean, the Democrats regained control of Congress after winning these races in 2001. O wait, no, they lost the midterms.

The reasons the GOP won a couple more seats in '02 were, well:

-The bruises and scars of 9/11 were still fresh. The GOP held the WH and both chambers of Congress back then, so it was as if they were the "9/11 Party."

-Stuffs like the Patriot Act and similar measures were passed, which were supposedly for "our safety." Also, supporting the sitting President and his security policy was considered "patriotic" and "weakening the terrorists."

-And, the piece de resistance: We were on the verge of the War in Iraq, which had bipartisan support.

The GOP had too much going for them...of course they were going to "win."

And '94...well...the reasons of course are known for the GOP regain.

So...things can change or stay the same next fall, really.

 

[Polk]

If both of these gubernatorial races go to Republicans, they could very well signal the decisive shift back to conservative values some are calling for to come in the 2010 midterm elections...

Makes sense. I mean, the Democrats regained control of Congress after winning these races in 2001. O wait, no, they lost the midterms.

You underestimate the anti-liberal backlash that is fomenting not just in the US - but around the world...

If there was a large swing toward the right in the population, you'd think Republicans would see higher approval ratings than they do. People are angry at process generally.

Also, where is this huge anti-liberal backlash overseas?

 

[Polk]

The victory for the Democrat Party of Japan was more so than not - a clear victory for conservative principles, and one that the rest of the world is engaged in as well - the primary factors in the election being opposition to a huge and ineficient government, a prohibitive tax code, economic stagnation, and a dangerous national debt.

A victory of a party proposing very deep reductions in carbon emissions (25 percent below 1990 levels by 2020), cap-and-trade, and reduced ties with the US is conservative?

Europe Elects Conservative Parliament | Sweetness & Light

Europe Elects Conservative Parliament


Europe leans right as voters choose EU Parliament
By Michael Weissenstein And Robert Wielaard, Associated Press Writer

BRUSSELS – Europe leaned to the right Sunday as tens of millions of people voted in European Parliament elections, with conservative parties leading or favored in many countries amid a global economic crisis.

Opinion surveys and exit polls showed right-leaning governments edging the opposition in Germany, Italy, France, Belgium and elsewhere. Conservative opposition parties were tied or ahead in Britain, Spain and some smaller countries....

These "right-leaning" European governments being referred in the article are Christian Democratic parties, whose platforms would be considered liberal in this country. The parties more like the Republicans (the hardcore Euro-skeptic groups like FN in France) lost seats.

 

[Polk]

If both of these gubernatorial races go to Republicans, they could very well signal the decisive shift back to conservative values some are calling for to come in the 2010 midterm elections...

Makes sense. I mean, the Democrats regained control of Congress after winning these races in 2001. O wait, no, they lost the midterms.

The reasons the GOP won a couple more seats in '02 were, well:

-The bruises and scars of 9/11 were still fresh. The GOP held the WH and both chambers of Congress back then, so it was as if they were the "9/11 Party."

-Stuffs like the Patriot Act and similar measures were passed, which were supposedly for "our safety." Also, supporting the sitting President and his security policy was considered "patriotic" and "weakening the terrorists."

-And, the piece de resistance: We were on the verge of the War in Iraq, which had bipartisan support.

The GOP had too much going for them...of course they were going to "win."

And '94...well...the reasons of course are known for the GOP regain.

So...things can change or stay the same next fall, really.

I agree with you on those points. My point was that the results this year from New Jersey and Virginia tell you about those two states and little else.

 

[Oscar Wao]

Makes sense. I mean, the Democrats regained control of Congress after winning these races in 2001. O wait, no, they lost the midterms.

The reasons the GOP won a couple more seats in '02 were, well:

-The bruises and scars of 9/11 were still fresh. The GOP held the WH and both chambers of Congress back then, so it was as if they were the "9/11 Party."

-Stuffs like the Patriot Act and similar measures were passed, which were supposedly for "our safety." Also, supporting the sitting President and his security policy was considered "patriotic" and "weakening the terrorists."

-And, the piece de resistance: We were on the verge of the War in Iraq, which had bipartisan support.

The GOP had too much going for them...of course they were going to "win."

And '94...well...the reasons of course are known for the GOP regain.

So...things can change or stay the same next fall, really.

I agree with you on those points. My point was that the results this year from New Jersey and Virginia tell you about those two states and little else.

I agree also...I thought you were sarcastically referring to '02...not certain states. Heh...my bad. I can have the worst habit of rambling sometimes...

 

[DavidS]

As voters near the November 2009 elections, current polling shows a comfortable leads for both candidates for governor of those respective states.

Republican Bob McDonnel has a 12 point lead over Democrat rival Creigh Deeds - despite recent negative press over a thesis McDonnel wrote 20 years ago that touched on such divisive social issues as homosexuality and feminism. Virginia voters appear to be shrugging over the thesis controversy, with McDonnel actually increasing his lead over Deeds since the story broke.

In New Jersey, while the race for governor there so far remains less controversial than Virginia, it is no less important. Republican candidate Chris Christie, who is as conservative a candidate for the New Jersey governor's mansion in some time, enjoys a 6.5% lead over his Democrat opponent an current New Jersey governor and former Goldman Sachs CEO Jon Corzine.


If both of these gubernatorial races go to Republicans, they could very well signal the decisive shift back to conservative values some are calling for to come in the 2010 midterm elections...

RealClearPolitics - Election 2009 Polls

Chris Christie is as much of a conservative as Keith Olbermann is. Just because he's a Republican, doesn't mean he's a conservative.

The only reason why in NJ the Republican is ahead is because Corzine is a former GS CEO and those are the very same people we bailed out last year.

Besides, people in NJ are stupid. They haven't had a full term governor in decades. Neither state are red states or purple states. Both states are solidly blue. NJ does not have a Senator up for election in 2010, and Deleware will elect Biden's son when he returns from Iraq.

 

[Sinatra]

As voters near the November 2009 elections, current polling shows a comfortable leads for both candidates for governor of those respective states.

Republican Bob McDonnel has a 12 point lead over Democrat rival Creigh Deeds - despite recent negative press over a thesis McDonnel wrote 20 years ago that touched on such divisive social issues as homosexuality and feminism. Virginia voters appear to be shrugging over the thesis controversy, with McDonnel actually increasing his lead over Deeds since the story broke.

In New Jersey, while the race for governor there so far remains less controversial than Virginia, it is no less important. Republican candidate Chris Christie, who is as conservative a candidate for the New Jersey governor's mansion in some time, enjoys a 6.5% lead over his Democrat opponent an current New Jersey governor and former Goldman Sachs CEO Jon Corzine.


If both of these gubernatorial races go to Republicans, they could very well signal the decisive shift back to conservative values some are calling for to come in the 2010 midterm elections...

RealClearPolitics - Election 2009 Polls

Chris Christie is as much of a conservative as Keith Olbermann is. Just because he's a Republican, doesn't mean he's a conservative.

The only reason why in NJ the Republican is ahead is because Corzine is a former GS CEO and those are the very same people we bailed out last year.

Besides, people in NJ are stupid. They haven't had a full term governor in decades. Neither state are red states or purple states. Both states are solidly blue. NJ does not have a Senator up for election in 2010, and Deleware will elect Biden's son when he returns from Iraq.

You make little sense.

Some in here say you hate Jews. Is that true?