What I've seen or heard on the news lately

[Foxfyre]

They are clutching at straws, those morons.

And all at Mr. and Mrs/Miss America's expense.

 

[Foxfyre]

Damn, I'm in the wrong business, need to start selling mail trucks to the Federal Government.

Yes, they have, they elected Justin Trudeau.

Well he is very 'pretty'.

Keep watching cable news…that will keep you entirely uninformed.

Most of the news I treat like Wiki, i.e. for key words to check out to see it if it true as much as it is possible to do that. Sometimes it turns out to be true and just as or more often, it turns out to be distorted, exaggerated, or manipulated or made up out of whole cloth and should not be trusted.

So far I have not found any of those things in the OP to be untrue.

I wonder how many on the left agree with or condone those?

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Foxfyre]

Damn, I'm in the wrong business, need to start selling mail trucks to the Federal Government.

Yes, they have, they elected Justin Trudeau.

Well he is very 'pretty'.

 

[NetJedi]

Well he is very 'pretty'.

... and completely devoid of testosterone.

Most of the news I treat like Wiki, i.e. for key words to check out to see it if it true as much as it is possible to do that. Sometimes it turns out to be true and just as or more often, it turns out to be distorted, exaggerated, or manipulated or made up out of whole cloth and should not be trusted.

I'm happy to hear that you're one of those rare individuals that can successfully filter out all the BS in the mainstream "news", for my own part I just avoid it all together in favor of specific online sources that have earned my trust over the years (mostly libertarian sources), filtering out all the BS in the "mainstream media" is just too exhausting for Me.

 

[Foxfyre]

But, but, but, what about the drones?

Jeez, shiny distracting object much?

Well according to Mayorkas they are a figment of hundred's of people's imagination. They don't exist.

 

[Foxfyre]

It is really courteous of those spy drones to run navigation lights.

Imagined navigation lights according to Mayorkas. The drones don't exist according to him.

 

[Oddball]

In some case you are absolutely right. However all of those were also on Fox News last night and they were pretty critical.

Controlled opposition.

 

[petro]

Imagined navigation lights according to Mayorkas. The drones don't exist according to him.

An image from Fox news about the drones...

Drone experts rule out US government experiment, unsure of other New Jersey drone phenomenon theories

Drone experts have little idea what the dozens of drone sightings over New Jersey could be, but have ruled out the possibility that they might be the work of a classified government program.

www.foxnews.com

Seriously?

It's a common helicopter. The tail rotor section and skids are clearly identifiable.
I think mass hysteria has people seeing normal things and interpreting them incorrectly.

We were at a lake up north once and couldn't figure out these strange red lights hovering in a straight formation. Really had the whole group of us puzzled. Some speculating a group of UFO's.
Took a half mike walk to investigate and it was simply some folks launching homemade Chinese lanterns from the public access.
The night sky can play tricks on our vision as depth perception decreases in the dark.

 

[Foxfyre]

... and completely devoid of testosterone.

I'm happy to hear that you're one of those rare individuals that can successfully filter out all the BS in the mainstream "news", for my own part I just avoid it all together in favor of specific online sources that have earned my trust over the years (mostly libertarian sources), filtering out all the BS in the "mainstream media" is just too exhausting for Me.

The MSM has resources that the smaller media sources do not so they can sometimes get the information more quickly and efficiently. But you're right that a person's BS filter needs to be a very good working order to sort out the real news from that which is dishonestly manipulated or manufactured. In all cases I don't 100% believe anybody any more unless there is some credible corroborating information apart from most other sources just parroting what one source says or just report a press release verbatim with no effort to check to see if it is true.

But I don't appreciate information being presented in a dishonest way.

For instance, I have to gig Fox News for omitting some key components of that mail truck story.

In 2022, Oshkosh Defense in Wisconsin was awarded a $6 billion dollar contract to deliver 3,000 electric mail trucks to the USPS. In 2023 even the leftwing media was reporting Oshkosh was way behind schedule delivering the trucks. And as of yesterday, Oshkosh had been paid $3 billion on their $6 billion contract but had delivered only 93 of the trucks.

Fox included that in a rundown of things Biden has done that cost the taxpayer's money, the boondoggle of the mail trucks was included without the extenuating information that would change the perception of the cost of the trucks had it been included. I cannot approve of omitting extenuating information like that.

But that is the difference between Biden and Trump. I don't think Trump would have paid Oshkosh Defense until they delivered and if they couldn't deliver, he would have pulled the contract and given it to somebody else.

 

[GLASNOST]

And all at Mr. and Mrs/Miss America's expense.

That went over my head.

 

[Foxfyre]

An image from Fox news about the drones...

Drone experts rule out US government experiment, unsure of other New Jersey drone phenomenon theories

Drone experts have little idea what the dozens of drone sightings over New Jersey could be, but have ruled out the possibility that they might be the work of a classified government program.

www.foxnews.com

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Seriously?

It's a common helicopter. The tail rotor section and skids are clearly identifiable.
I think mass hysteria has people seeing normal things and interpreting them incorrectly.

We were at a lake up north once and couldn't figure out these strange red lights hovering in a straight formation. Really had the whole group of us puzzled. Some speculating a group of UFO's.
Took a half mike walk to investigate and it was simply some folks launching homemade Chinese lanterns from the public access.
The night sky can play tricks on our vision as depth perception decreases in the dark.

Possibly. But I can't find a helicopter in this recent photo of one of those objects:

". . .Sen. Andy Kim, D-N.J., accompanied local police Thursday night, posting several videos on X of the drone clusters he recorded, and describing them doing maneuvers that are uncharacteristic of planes. . ."

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[petro]

Possibly. But I can't find a helicopter in this recent photo of one of those objects:
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". . .Sen. Andy Kim, D-N.J., accompanied local police Thursday night, posting several videos on X of the drone clusters he recorded, and describing them doing maneuvers that are uncharacteristic of planes. . ."

MSN

www.msn.com

Even so. I doubt anything with bad intentions would light itself up to be filmed or targeted.

 

[Foxfyre]

1. I own a drone, which was purchased to take aerial photos of beautiful things, and some golf holes. Nothing to fear here, or elsewhere as far as I'm concerned.
2. Most Americans are aware that Biden is doing nothing. It is the cabal of underlings who are calling all the shots, and they couldn't care less what it does to Biden's legacy or the country.
3. The numbers being tossed about for electric mail trucks are nonsense. To the extent that the money has been spent, it has probably been invested in infrastructure at USPS facilities, so that the fleet of EV mail trucks can be charged easily, daily. Mail trucks are probably a good use of EV technology. Efficient transport with minimal maintenance.
4. No rational American believes that Ms. Harris lost the election because she was a woman. As for foreigners, their opinion counts about as much as my opinion on the current British Prime Minister - that is to say, it counts for nothing.
5. Biden is a piker when it comes to pardons. Jimmy Carter pardoned AT LEAST fifty thousand Vietnam-Era draft dodgers. But there were a couple fuck-ups among Biden's beneficiaries, conspicuously the Pennsylvania judge who was convicted of sending juvenile offenders to his for-profit prison camp, and that woman who embezzled fifty million dollars from her little town in Illinois.

It is a good idea to read more than the headlines when scanning the news. You might be misled.

All reasonable arguments.

In my post #30 I commented on information left out of the mail truck story and that I disapproved of it being left out. But even with the extenuating circumstances included, it illustrates the incompetence of the Biden Administration to get things done.

And regardless of who in the administration or deep state is actually doing things, it all will be his legacy under his name. The buck stops here and all that. . .

Both Ford and Carter granted amnesty to the draft dodgers which was a whole different thing/concept than the pardons Biden has issued which are unprecedented. I have not commented on how many of those were justified as I don't know.

 

[Foxfyre]

Even so. I doubt anything with bad intentions would light itself up to be filmed or targeted.

The reports are that when the drones are sighted and being tracked, they 'go dark' i.e. the lights go off.

Mayorkas as of yesterday had changed his story from 'the drones don't exist' to 'they don't present a threat.'

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5040113-mayorkas-drones-security-trump/

Since nobody knows who is putting the drones up there and what they are doing up there, how can he realistically say they present no threat so we can't shoot them down?

With that kind of mentality, I sure hope the country survives to January 20.

 

[Lesh]

There are hundreds of thousands of drones in this country. Owned and flown by normal (and sometimes not so normal Americans)

Chill out

 

[Foxfyre]

In today's news, this more 'obscure' source is most likely accurate that McConnell, despite being on what appears to be his last legs, is actively undermining Trump's foreign policy now. As an old guard Republican, world peace isn't in his arsenal of policy positions where it is Trump's undeniable goal. It certainly isn't the first time McConnell has opposed Trump on policy. I hope the writer of the article is wrong that McConnell still hold considerable power in the Senate despite stepping down as Senate Minority Leader.

Mitch McConnell's sad final act

Someone recently sent me a picture of Mitch McConnell, the day after the election, being pushed through an airport in a wheelchair. At the time, McConnell remained Senate minority leader. While he technically still holds that office, the Kentucky Republican has ceded power to John Thune, who was...

unherd.com

 

[petro]

The reports are that when the drones are sighted and being tracked, they 'go dark' i.e. the lights go off.

Mayorkas as of yesterday had changed his story from 'the drones don't exist' to 'they don't present a threat.'

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5040113-mayorkas-drones-security-trump/

Since nobody knows who is putting the drones up there and what they are doing up there, how can he realistically say they present no threat so we can't shoot them down?

With that kind of mentality, I sure hope the country survives to January 20.

First rule of shooting anything with ballistics is Know Your Target.

Since we can't apparently determine what they are, or what intentions, if there are any, it would be insane to willy nilly start shooting objects out of the sky. We would probably kill innocent people through misidentification or debris hitting a populated area.

So far, they have only generated a bunch speculation, curiosity, grainy video and hysteria.

 

[d0gbreath]

There is only one. It belongs to the US Navy and is performing test flights.

 

[Foxfyre]

First rule of shooting anything with ballistics is Know Your Target.

Since we can't apparently determine what they are, or what intentions, if there are any, it would be insane to willy nilly start shooting objects out of the sky. We would probably kill innocent people through misidentification or debris hitting a populated area.

So far, they have only generated a bunch speculation, curiosity, grainy video and hysteria.

Ah yes. So we don't check anybody out if we can't be sure they are intending to commit a crime. We don't inspect unusual or suspicious packages because we don't know that they contain a bomb. We allow giant spy balloons to cross a great deal of our country including sensitive installations because it might fall on somebody. And drones of unknown origin and purpose hover over our military bases and other installations but we don't bother them because we don't know that they're up to no good?

Don't take this wrong, but I am really really glad you aren't in charge of national security. I wish Mayorkas was not. I can't wait until Kristi Noem is in charge of national security. I will feel a great deal safer.