Zelenski Says Trump Can't Make Him Negotiate With Russia....Practically Admitting He's Not Trying To End It

[ESay]

They were expelled from the North and Kherson, but gained more ground in the South. And keep doing so as for now.

 

[Zavulon]

No Zeb.....

i am curious as to what the average Russian thinks of this man>>>

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~S~

There were some really amazing pieces with him. Like, say, "300 Jews" (didn't find the version with English subtitles, may be, YouTube already deleted it).

• Leonid, son, did you poop?
• Mom, there are 300 thousand of them and only 300 of us. How many times, do you think, I did poop?

 

[beagle9]

It just might be for the Russians. As long as Ukrainian morale and western support hold out, Russia can’t win. Eventually their flimsily economy will fold, or there will be a coup to overthrow Putin.

Very doubtful... Escalation is still in the midst of everything, and Putin is yet to unleash Russias full potential in that department. Yeah he's suffering on the battlefield due to the fast technological advances in warfare, and this is according to what we are being fed to us on our news reel's, but we aren't getting the entire picture on how well Russia is advancing on the same battlefield right ?

You gotta also look at what happened here with the left attempting to control us and destroy Trump, and then think about who it was and still is that we have dealing with Ukraine and Zelensky by telling them it's ok to shoot long range missiles into Russia now. That's escalation by an outgoing administration that's entangled in some serious controversy and legal issue's on it's way out.

Putin needs to be met with immediately in hopes to get a lull in the fighting for the purpose of peace talks by our incoming administration. Hopefully it's not too late.

Biden needs to chill out and leave gracefully until he's called upon for him and his son's meddling.

 

[alang1216]

Yeah. Do you mean, that opinion of people controlled by cruel SBU (daughter of KGB), augmented by western intelligence support can be really counted? Anyway, Russia give them all fair choice - to live in Russia or to leave to Canada.

The American expression is "my way or the highway". An ultimatum is not a choice.

There were. First of all, there was Donbass rebellion. But after Odessa Massacre and terror campaigns in Kharkov and Dniepropetrovsk some of Vatniks left Ukraine, and other hide themselves in underground (supporting further Russian invasion with intelligence and sabotage).

I was referring to the American Revolution, not to Russian-controlled separatists.

 

[Zavulon]

The American expression is "my way or the highway". An ultimatum is not a choice.

If we are running out of other options - ultimatum is the choice. Why not?

I was referring to the American Revolution, not to Russian-controlled separatists.

There were royalists among subjects of British crown in the rebellious colonies. As well as there were some French, Spanish and Russian agents whos support of American separatists significantly helped success or American revolution. But even if American separatists got some help from Russian Empire, it doesn't make them "Russian-controlled separatists". American Revolution was successful not only because it was supported by Russia, France and Spain, but, first of all, because it was supported by the local people. And it was supported by Americans because London actually have benn abusing them.

 

[Deadstick]

Exactly what I was wondering on a lot of this stuff. Will Trump be convinced to appease the deep state, and therefore go along to get along ? We shall soon see if he has been compromised by the leftist cabal, otherwise who had set out to either destroy him or to try and control him with constant threats of judicial prosecutions without cease and etc.

Trump needs to break free completely from the deep state, and he needs to turn to then prosecute the enemies that not only tried to destroy him, but actually tried to have him killed.

Destroying the deep state s one hell of a job, he could start by looking at his security and intelligence services, it's the same in the UK up to a point Mi6 and Mi5 are above the law with their own agenda same with the CIA, they have grown into Monsters so it doesn't matter who is elected.

 

[Deadstick]

Very doubtful... Escalation is still in the midst of everything, and Putin is yet to unleash Russias full potential in that department. Yeah he's suffering on the battlefield due to the fast technological advances in warfare, and this is according to what we are being fed to us on our news reel's, but we aren't getting the entire picture on how well Russia is advancing on the same battlefield right ?

You gotta also look at what happened here with the left attempting to control us and destroy Trump, and then think about who it was and still is that we have dealing with Ukraine and Zelensky by telling them it's ok to shoot long range missiles into Russia now. That's escalation by an outgoing administration that's entangled in some serious controversy and legal issue's on it's way out.

Putin needs to be met with immediately in hopes to get a lull in the fighting for the purpose of peace talks by our incoming administration. Hopefully it's not too late.

Biden needs to chill out and leave gracefully until he's called upon for him and his son's meddling.

If anyone had said a few years ago that America/NATO would allow another Country to launch their long range missiles against Russia we would have thought they were totally insane and should be sent to a mental home, and yet here we are, let me put it this way if Russian missiles were sent to Mexico or Cuba to not just threaten the US but to actually attack US territory the reaction would be off the scale, the leaders of these Countries are bonkers and that is a real worry, the same idiots always say Putin is bluffing about a devastating reaction, until one day he isn't.

 

[Zavulon]

If anyone had said a few years ago that America/NATO would allow another Country to launch their long range missiles against Russia we would have thought they were totally insane and should be sent to a mental home, and yet here we are, let me put it this way if Russian missiles were sent to Mexico or Cuba to not just threaten the US but to actually attack US territory the reaction would be off the scale, the leaders of these Countries are bonkers and that is a real worry, the same idiots always say Putin is bluffing about a devastating reaction, until one day he isn't.

Actually, both Russian and American sci fi has a lot of examples of those scenarios.

 

[sparky]

i wish it were sci-fi........~S~

 

[Frankenstein]

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Zelenskyy in Ukraine Radio interview: "The US cannot force us to sit and listen at the negotiating table. We are an independent country,”

This is an admission that the has no intention of ending the war for his own reasons, be it financial or otherwise.

Then independently defend yourself

 

[Zavulon]

i wish it were sci-fi........~S~

It's all about our perception, isn't it?
And, sci-fi isn't the worst genre.

It could be, say, Dark Fantasy (specifically LOTR as it is in Ukrainian perception) or even Harry Potter-verse (as it is in the perception of Russian Liberal Opposion).

I mean almost everything is better than CNN-style "mockumentary".

 

[hadit]

One wonders why American foreign policy seemingly is focused more on continuing the war than ending it.

 

[ESay]

One wonders why American foreign policy seemingly is focused more on continuing the war than ending it.

Because a war is good business.

 

[sparky]

It's all about our perception, isn't it?

God yes Zeb

More to your point would be those that would impart, coerce, corrupt or otherwise introduce agenda towards our perceptions

Maybe you've heard of Duck & Cover?
.

I'm fairly sure no Russian copy exists, but what this is how i grew up in America.

We were taught from an early age that Communist aggression could be at our door, that nothing would stop it.

We were taught that being a patriot meant sending our youth to every corner of the world to fight it

And further that it could appear within our political system to destroy us

Sadly that is American perception to this very day

~S~

 

[beagle9]

Because a war is good business.

Not a nuclear war....
Biden possibly is unhinged maybe. The 25th amendment needs to be implemented immediately on Biden if he has lost it completely (or) if he thinks that he is cognizant in his thinking, but we find out that he's actually playing politics because he should know the results of his rhetoric by now, yet he still does these thing's anyway.

We at least need to send a message to the world that we are handling our situation by not allowing a senile old man too start a lawnmower, and especially not allowing him to start a damned nuclear war.

Putin needs to stay focused on his war with Ukraine, and Ukraine the same with it's new tactics or technology used in defense of, but absolutely (no atacms for long range use)..... We didn't send them to Ukraine for this reason. Strictly defense and not offense has been the reasoning behind all the weapons sent. Ukraine had best honor this.

Putin needs to forget about the rhetoric coming from a possible senile lame duck in America. Putins warnings should be directed at Ukraine who are the one's defending themself in the situation, and might decide to use missles long range.

Regardless of where the weapons are coming from, the war is between Russia and Ukraine. Fact !

The war should remain between Russia and Ukraine, and whatever both side's do is on them.

Warning to Putin, you don't want to start world War3 in result of Ukraines possible move, otherwise if they are listening to Biden or use him as an excuse to do so, because that won't end well for you or anyone involved at all.

If Ukraine fire's missiles into Russia, then Russia will fire back or respond to Ukraine, so it's really that simple....... Russia isn't being limited by what it does in as far as a response goes, so it needs to tone down the rhetoric of escalation, and focus on it's actions staying focused in Ukraine.....

Keep your war in your own region fellas, and this instead of being stupid by responding to an oldmans words or radical decisions while in his last throws of power.

Trump needs to give Zelensky a message quickly, and the message should be that he best not use atacms long range into Russia without his agreeing with it...If he does then the incoming new administration will abandon Ukraine completely, otherwise if it attempts something that provokes a wider conflict outside of it's border's and the region.

This doesn't mean that we in America fear any war if we are called to duty, but we do realize that we are dealing with a special situation that has presented itself in a surprising way.

Not against two nation's fighting it out, but when they attempt to drag everyone else into it, then Houston we have a serious problem.

 

[Zavulon]

God yes Zeb

More to your point would be those that would impart, coerce, corrupt or otherwise introduce agenda towards our perceptions

Maybe you've heard of Duck & Cover?
.

Yes, I have. Nice song. Russian children songs are a bit more specific. Like one of my favourite "Yadernaya voina" (Nuclear war).

I'm fairly sure no Russian copy exists, but what this is how i grew up in America.

Here in Russia, children on the lessons of initial military training study how to put on gas masks at the command "Gases!" and "Flash from left (right, front, back)!".

We were taught from an early age that Communist aggression could be at our door, that nothing would stop it.

Yes. And the Russian children were taught that Western agression could be at our door, and the western barbarians will come in our home, and nobody but us will stop them.

We were taught that being a patriot meant sending our youth to every corner of the world to fight it

And further that it could appear within our political system to destroy us

Sadly that is American perception to this very day

~S~

It could be worse. And, may be, it will be much worse pretty soon. Just enjoy every moment of what do you have now.

 

[ESay]

Not a nuclear war....
Biden possibly is unhinged maybe. The 25th amendment needs to be implemented immediately on Biden if he has lost it completely (or) if he thinks that he is cognizant in his thinking, but we find out that he's actually playing politics because he should know the results of his rhetoric by now, yet he still does these thing's anyway.

We at least need to send a message to the world that we are handling our situation by not allowing a senile old man too start a lawnmower, and especially not allowing him to start a damned nuclear war.

Putin needs to stay focused on his war with Ukraine, and Ukraine the same with it's new tactics or technology used in defense of, but absolutely (no atacms for long range use)..... We didn't send them to Ukraine for this reason. Strictly defense and not offense has been the reasoning behind all the weapons sent. Ukraine had best honor this.

Putin needs to forget about the rhetoric coming from a possible senile lame duck in America. Putins warnings should be directed at Ukraine who are the one's defending themself in the situation, and might decide to use missles long range.

Regardless of where the weapons are coming from, the war is between Russia and Ukraine. Fact !

The war should remain between Russia and Ukraine, and whatever both side's do is on them.

Warning to Putin, you don't want to start world War3 in result of Ukraines possible move, otherwise if they are listening to Biden or use him as an excuse to do so, because that won't end well for you or anyone involved at all.

If Ukraine fire's missiles into Russia, then Russia will fire back or respond to Ukraine, so it's really that simple....... Russia isn't being limited by what it does in as far as a response goes, so it needs to tone down the rhetoric of escalation, and focus on it's actions staying focused in Ukraine.....

Keep your war in your own region fellas, and this instead of being stupid by responding to an oldmans words or radical decisions while in his last throws of power.

Trump needs to give Zelensky a message quickly, and the message should be that he best not use atacms long range into Russia without his agreeing with it...If he does then the incoming new administration will abandon Ukraine completely, otherwise if it attempts something that provokes a wider conflict outside of it's border's and the region.

This doesn't mean that we in America fear any war if we are called to duty, but we do realize that we are dealing with a special situation that has presented itself in a surprising way.

Not against two nation's fighting it out, but when they attempt to drag everyone else into it, then Houston we have a serious problem.

This war should have been stopped in 2022. But some people in the West decided otherwise. All America needs is go away.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

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Zelenskyy in Ukraine Radio interview: "The US cannot force us to sit and listen at the negotiating table. We are an independent country,”

This is an admission that the has no intention of ending the war for his own reasons, be it financial or otherwise.

What is the midget poll smoking murderous sell out joo going to do when the money's cut off


Who will off him first is the real question..... the Russians or the CIA

 

[beagle9]

One wonders why American foreign policy seemingly is focused more on continuing the war than ending it.

Don't say America, because Biden doesn't represent no more than a fraction of Americans today.

My prediction is that Russia will use this escalation as a reasoning to pound Ukraine into the dust for collaborating with America against the Russian nation during a hot war.

Yes Russia not being welcomed at the negotiating peace table, and all due to Biden and the leftist hatred of Putin for whatever reason, has now placed Ukraine (what's left of it), into a very real dangerous situation or end game now.

Have the ukies been used in a bad way, and this by someone or maybe a larger group surrounding that someone, otherwise who has possibly pushed the fuel pedal down on what we are seeing today instead of pushing the brakes ??

An investigation into Bidens irrational decision making in which could easily endanger Ukraine for a nuclear strike heaved over by Russia, and then causing America's national security to be toyed with by again a possible senile old man full of hatred (who has aged badly in his job), for possible divisive political reason's is highly unexceptable and needs answers.

.

 

[Zavulon]

Ok. Yesterday our dear friend Admiral Rockwell Tory told as, that Joint US-Ukrainian forces will attack military targets only in Kursk region, because Biden authorised only limited usage of them. The very same day, they attacked a target in Bryansk region.
It means, that the Joint Ukrainian&US forces just pissed in the months of Biden, Harris, Trump, whoever else, clearly demonstrated that they can't control them.

So, the main question (as for me) is not if POTUS can or cannot control the Ukres (he can't ) The real question is if a POTUS can or cannot control US forces. I mean, with all those mentally insane persons in the US Forces it was only a matter of time, when US government will lost control.