USS Liberty

[Lisa558]

That is the history I've read too and believe it to be reliable. "Friendly fire" happens in pretty much every war situation. I do believe the attack on the Liberty was a case of mistaken identity.

And anything that happened almost six decades ago cannot be the whole basis for judging a people now.

Shows how desperate the antisemites are to make Jews look bad. They have to reach back two generations.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Old news, all you have is name calling. You cannot defend the Zionist actions over 70+ years, so all you can do is call names and cry.

That’s what they always resort to when unable to stand toe to toe in a debate and refute evidence and facts.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The attack on the Liberty is not the only example of the Zionist State attacking the US. 911 is the biggest, and the incessant bribery of elected representatives makes them pass illegitimate legislation that contradicts constitutional governance might be worst of all.

Yeah really.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

That is the history I've read too and believe it to be reliable. "Friendly fire" happens in pretty much every war situation. I do believe the attack on the Liberty was a case of mistaken identity.

And anything that happened almost six decades ago cannot be the whole basis for judging a people now.

Funny how these same people don't hold onto their hatred of the Japanese and the Germans, but they can't abandon their hatred for Israel. But then, I know the spirit that leads them

 

[Lisa558]

Funny how these same people don't hold onto their hatred of the Japanese and the Germans, but they can't abandon their hatred for Israel. But then, I know the spirit that leads them

That double standard is the most obvious tell that their hate for Israel is driven by antisemitism.

 

[PeterPilot]

Funny how these same people don't hold onto their hatred of the Japanese and the Germans, but they can't abandon their hatred for Israel. But then, I know the spirit that leads them

Your perceptive powers are not sophisticated. You are unable to distinguish between hatred for Israel and criticism of the Israeli State's countless and public crimes against humanity.

 

[Foxfyre]

The attack on the Liberty is not the only example of the Zionist State attacking the US. 911 is the biggest, and the incessant bribery of elected representatives makes them pass illegitimate legislation that contradicts constitutional governance might be worst of all.

So I don't believe you. Not only do I not believe what you say, but I won't trust anybody with as irrational hatred of Jews and Israel as you have expressed. Do have a pleasant afternoon.

 

[JoeB131]

Wow. Severe anti-JudeoChristianity coupled with severe antisemitism can make a person look really really foolish.

No, foolish is thinking there are still imaginary people in the sky we have to obey.

 

[JoeB131]

I have him on ignore. Is it worth my taking a peek to see what the antisemitic Democrat said, or should it just remain a mystery?

I'm still living rent-free in your head, either way.

 

[JoeB131]

Shows how desperate the antisemites are to make Jews look bad. They have to reach back two generations.

Um, no, the Genocide in Gaza today makes the Zionists look bad.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Um, no, the Genocide in Gaza today makes the Zionists look bad.

There's no "genocide" in Gaza. This is more of your peddling of neo-Nazi, jihadist propaganda to smear the only genuine democracy in the Middle East.

Exposing the Hypocrisy of the ‘Genocide’ Propagandists

Since the beginning of the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza, Lebanon’s involvement has been revelatory. Do anti-Israel protesters on campus care about Palestinians or do they merely hate

www.commentary.org

5 Reasons Why the Events in Gaza Are Not “Genocide”

Here are five reasons why the use of the term genocide -- which has come up Macklemore’s "Hinds Hall" song -- in Israel's self-defense campaign is inaccurate, misleading, and dangerous.

www.ajc.org

The Chilling Implications of Hamas’s Suspension of Hostage Releases

Is there anything Hamas could do that would be unspinnable even for its army of Western media collaborators? After nearly 500 days, that question appears to have been answered. The

www.commentary.org

The Genocide Libel

Beinner Family Research Papers: Norman JW Goda.

isca.indiana.edu

Hamas’s hostage circus exposes the hypocrisy of Gaza’s victim narrative - opinion - IDSF

With these outrageous images, Hamas may have helped Israel convince world leaders to have its back to remove Hamas’ terrorist regime from power in the Gaza Strip. The gruesome PR spectacles produced by Hamas during the release of Israeli hostages have been offering the world a glimpse into the...

idsf.org.il

Weekly War Summary Week #90 | June 22-June 28 ,2025 - IDSF

Account of the main events in the Israel-Hamas war and hostilities by the Iranian Axis This is a product by IDSF-Habithonistim’s Research Department | June 30, 2025

idsf.org.il

https://www.adl.org/resources/report/antisemitism-arab-cartoons-during-israel-hamas-war-chronology-dehumanization-jews

Gaza Through Whose Lens?

U.S. Media in Times of War

features.csis.org

 

[gipper]

There's no "genocide" in Gaza. This is more of your peddling of neo-Nazi, jihadist propaganda to smear the only genuine democracy in the Middle East.

Exposing the Hypocrisy of the ‘Genocide’ Propagandists

Since the beginning of the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza, Lebanon’s involvement has been revelatory. Do anti-Israel protesters on campus care about Palestinians or do they merely hate

www.commentary.org

5 Reasons Why the Events in Gaza Are Not “Genocide”

Here are five reasons why the use of the term genocide -- which has come up Macklemore’s "Hinds Hall" song -- in Israel's self-defense campaign is inaccurate, misleading, and dangerous.

www.ajc.org

The Chilling Implications of Hamas’s Suspension of Hostage Releases

Is there anything Hamas could do that would be unspinnable even for its army of Western media collaborators? After nearly 500 days, that question appears to have been answered. The

www.commentary.org

The Genocide Libel

Beinner Family Research Papers: Norman JW Goda.

isca.indiana.edu

Hamas’s hostage circus exposes the hypocrisy of Gaza’s victim narrative - opinion - IDSF

With these outrageous images, Hamas may have helped Israel convince world leaders to have its back to remove Hamas’ terrorist regime from power in the Gaza Strip. The gruesome PR spectacles produced by Hamas during the release of Israeli hostages have been offering the world a glimpse into the...

idsf.org.il

Weekly War Summary Week #90 | June 22-June 28 ,2025 - IDSF

Account of the main events in the Israel-Hamas war and hostilities by the Iranian Axis This is a product by IDSF-Habithonistim’s Research Department | June 30, 2025

idsf.org.il

https://www.adl.org/resources/report/antisemitism-arab-cartoons-during-israel-hamas-war-chronology-dehumanization-jews

Gaza Through Whose Lens?

U.S. Media in Times of War

features.csis.org

A Zionist court historian. Not a good look.

Where can I send back your book? I’m embarrassed I bought it and read it. Maybe I’ll burn it in the fireplace.

 

[JoeB131]

There's no "genocide" in Gaza. This is more of your peddling of neo-Nazi, jihadist propaganda to smear the only genuine democracy in the Middle East.

Sorry, what's happening in Gaza meets the definition of Genocide according to the UN.

Slobodon Milosevic killed a lot less people than Bibi is, and he still ended his miserable life in a jail cell in the Hague.

A Zionist court historian. Not a good look.

Where can I send back your book? I’m embarrassed I bought it and read it. Maybe I’ll burn it in the fireplace.

I did notice all his links were to Commentary, ADL, etc.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Sorry, what's happening in Gaza meets the definition of Genocide according to the UN.

Sorry, the facts refute that spin. The UN never could get around to condemning Mao's murder of tens of millions of Chinese or Stalin's killing of tens of millions of Russians. In 2023, the UN admitted Vietnam, one of the most brutal and repressive regimes on the planet, to sit on the UN Human Rights Council. So, yeah, it's not surprising that the UN has swallowed neo-Nazi and Jihadist propaganda about Israel's actions in Gaza.

Slobodon Milosevic killed a lot less people than Bibi is, and he still ended his miserable life in a jail cell in the Hague.

I'm sure Bibi will be upset to learn that the same guy who has said that "Hitler was not the problem" and that the Jews "definitely" caused the Nazis to hate them--the same guy who spewed this bilge is now claiming he's worse than Milosevic.

I did notice all his links were to Commentary, ADL, etc.

Umm, I guess you didn't notice that one of the links was to a paper published on the University of Indiana website and that another link was to an article published on the prestigious Center for International and Strategic Studies website.

Of course, being a proud anti-Semite and Israel hater, you would never allow yourself to read articles published in Jewish sources, including the ADL and Commentary magazine. In previous posts, you have cited overtly pro-Hamas sources, but, nah, you dismiss sources that are Jewish and/or pro-Israeli.

People should go back and read your jaw-dropping excuses for Hamas's failure to hold an election for the last 15 years, and your lame dismissals of the fact that Israel holds regular elections, has a free press, has an independent judiciary, and even has Arab-Israeli representation in the Knesset.

 

[PeterPilot]

mikegriffith1

How would you define genocide Mike? What do you call the murder of unarmed children and families?

 

[JoeB131]

Mormon Mike strikes again.

Sorry, the facts refute that spin. The UN never could get around to condemning Mao's murder of tens of millions of Chinese or Stalin's killing of tens of millions of Russians. In 2023, the UN admitted Vietnam, one of the most brutal and repressive regimes on the planet, to sit on the UN Human Rights Council. So, yeah, it's not surprising that the UN has swallowed neo-Nazi and Jihadist propaganda about Israel's actions in Gaza.

Uh, guy, Vietnam was a victim of western imperialism and genocide, not a perpetrator.

And the UN denied China membership in the UN for years after Mao won the war.

But you as always avoid the point. Does Israel's actions constitute genocide? According to the UN definition, it does.

Of course, being a proud anti-Semite and Israel hater, you would never allow yourself to read articles published in Jewish sources, including the ADL and Commentary magazine. In previous posts, you have cited overtly pro-Hamas sources, but, nah, you dismiss sources that are Jewish and/or pro-Israeli.

Naw, I don't waste my time reading shit. If I want some bullshit to laugh at, I just click on your "Real Issues" home page for a good chuckle, providing you can keep the links working this week.

I'm sure Bibi will be upset to learn that the same guy who has said that "Hitler was not the problem" and that the Jews "definitely" caused the Nazis to hate them--the same guy who spewed this bilge is now claiming he's worse than Milosevic.

Hey, rewriting history is fun. Kind of like when Vatican 2 decided the Jews didn't really kill Jesus, Satan did.

(Of course, it's a bum rap... Jesus never existed.)

People should go back and read your jaw-dropping excuses for Hamas's failure to hold an election for the last 15 years, and your lame dismissals of the fact that Israel holds regular elections, has a free press, has an independent judiciary, and even has Arab-Israeli representation in the Knesset.

SOme day, Mikey, you might grow up and realize that no everyone holds the same values you do. If Isreal let every Palestinian vote in Gaza and the West Bank, and allowed them to elect delegates from Hamas and Fatah, then you can get back to me about how "Free" they are.

 

[Unkotare]

Mormon Mike strikes again.



Uh, guy, Vietnam was a victim of western imperialism and genocide, not a perpetrator.

And the UN denied China membership in the UN for years after Mao won the war.

But you as always avoid the point. Does Israel's actions constitute genocide? According to the UN definition, it does.



Naw, I don't waste my time reading shit. If I want some bullshit to laugh at, I just click on your "Real Issues" home page for a good chuckle, providing you can keep the links working this week.




Hey, rewriting history is fun. Kind of like when Vatican 2 decided the Jews didn't really kill Jesus, Satan did.

(Of course, it's a bum rap... Jesus never existed.)




SOme day, Mikey, you might grow up and realize that no everyone holds the same values you do. If Isreal let every Palestinian vote in Gaza and the West Bank, and allowed them to elect delegates from Hamas and Fatah, then you can get back to me about how "Free" they are.

^^^ Whipped, brainless, Maoist nuthugger hypocrite ^^^.

 

[mikegriffith1]

^^^ Whipped, brainless, Maoist nuthugger hypocrite ^^^.

Oh, heck, in many forums, JoeB131 would have long since been banned for making so many blatantly racist, extremist comments. Indeed, his shocking comments excusing Hitler and blaming the Jews for the Nazis' anti-Semitism would have gotten him instantly banned in many forums.

Personally, I'm glad we have tolerant moderators. JoeB131 has already long since discredited himself in the eyes of any normal, rational, mainstream person who reads his garbage.

 

[Lisa558]

Oh, heck, in many forums, JoeB131 would have long since been banned for making so many blatantly racist, extremist comments. Indeed, his shocking comments excusing Hitler and blaming the Jews for the Nazis' anti-Semitism would have gotten him instantly banned in many forums.

Personally, I'm glad we have tolerant moderators. JoeB131 has already long since discredited himself in the eyes of any normal, rational, mainstream person who reads his garbage.

But the question is….is this level of tolerance for horrible bigotry being applied evenly, or, as we see IRL, is tolerance for virrulent antisemitism accepted where it would not be if the target were any other minority?

For example, would a conservative poster referring to blacks with the n-word be banned? Because a leftist poster referring to Jews with another disgusting forbidden word was NOT.

And out in real life, would a group of neo-Nazis marching around yelling “Death to Blacks!” - and on a campus ALREADY rife with violent racism - be defended as merely free speech?

My objection is to double standards, both here and IRL

 

[JoeB131]

Oh, heck, in many forums, JoeB131 would have long since been banned for making so many blatantly racist, extremist comments. Indeed, his shocking comments excusing Hitler and blaming the Jews for the Nazis' anti-Semitism would have gotten him instantly banned in many forums.

Nobody excused Hitler.

Pointing out valid grievances (which Germans definitely had) isn't excusing bad actions.

It's like if you let your Dog shit on my lawn every morning, I would have a valid grievance.

If I took out a shotgun and shot your dog, that would be bad.

See how that works, buddy?

Personally, I'm glad we have tolerant moderators. JoeB131 has already long since discredited himself in the eyes of any normal, rational, mainstream person who reads his garbage.

I haven't talked to these supposed mainstream people.

I just see religious nuts who get terribly uspet I don't go along with their religous nutbaggery.

But the question is….is this level of tolerance for horrible bigotry being applied evenly, or, as we see IRL, is tolerance for virrulent antisemitism accepted where it would not be if the target were any other minority?

NO other minority is pulling the shit Zionists are pulling, that's the thing.

For example, would a conservative poster referring to blacks with the n-word be banned? Because a leftist poster referring to Jews with another disgusting forbidden word was NOT.

And if someone used the K-word repeatedly, they'd be banned, too. But last I checked, your boyfriend Hector12 uses some truly Nazi language about Blacks, and he's mysteriously still here.

And out in real life, would a group of neo-Nazis marching around yelling “Death to Blacks!” - and on a campus ALREADY rife with violent racism - be defended as merely free speech?

My objection is to double standards, both here and IRL

Nope. Free Speech is free speech. Period. I'm sorry you don't get that concept, but maybe if you spent more time coming up with valid reasons why genocide and apartheid are okay in Palestine (don't worry, you can't), you could win the argument.