USS Liberty Survivor Phil Tourney Blasts Trump Iran Attack: "Here We Go Again...No More Wars for Israel," Says Trump Compromised by Epstein

[georgephillip]

So instead of referring to the UN defintion of genocide, you chose to show you are not the only asshole falsey accusing Israel of genocide.

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The UN defines genocide in Article II of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide as specific acts committed with the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These acts include killing, causing serious harm, inflicting conditions of life designed to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children.
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Key Components of the Definition

• Intent: The perpetrator must have the specific intent to destroy the group, not just individuals.
• • Targeted Groups: The law protects four specific groups: national, ethnical, racial, or religious.
  • Acts: Actions include Killing; Causing serious bodily or mental harm; Inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about physical destruction; Imposing measures to prevent births; and Forcibly transferring children.
    
    
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  • Clearly Israel's intent was no to destroy any national, ethnical, racial or religious group, so it is not genocide.
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Your definition:

"The UN defines genocide in Article II of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide as specific acts committed with the 'intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group'. These acts include killing, causing serious harm, inflicting conditions of life designed to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children."

Welcome to the United Nations"

Have you noticed any recent actions in Gaza by Israeli Jews that intend to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group?

Israel-Gaza war death toll: Live tracker

 

[toomuchtime_]

Your definition:

"The UN defines genocide in Article II of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide as specific acts committed with the 'intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group'. These acts include killing, causing serious harm, inflicting conditions of life designed to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children."

Welcome to the United Nations"

Have you noticed any recent actions in Gaza by Israeli Jews that intend to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group?

Israel-Gaza war death toll: Live tracker

The definition of genocide has nothing to do with the number of people killed but only with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group so clearly anyone who is calling what is happening in Gaza a genocide is either an idiot or a liar.

 

[georgephillip]

The definition of genocide has nothing to do with the number of people killed but only with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group so clearly anyone who is calling what is happening in Gaza a genocide is either an idiot or a liar.

"Israel has committed genocide in the Gaza Strip, UN Commission finds"​

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-rele...itted-genocide-gaza-strip-un-commission-finds

 

[Churchill]

Listen, Shit-for-Brains, there is no USS Liberty issue.

Judging by the number of books, documentaries and speaking engagements and interviews with former crew, I'd there is an issue.

The incident has been investigated by a Naval board of Review, Congress and two Presidential commissions, and they all came to the same conclusion, at the time of the attack the IDF did not know it was an American ship. All the records are public. There are no unanswered questions.

Yes, that's because it's a conspiracy, don't you know what "conspiracy" means?

The notion that Israel destroyed the Liberty because it was spying on Israel and passing intel on the Soviet client states, Egypt and Syria, was first advanced by a Soviet author, Josef Daichman, seeking to sow discord between Israel and the US, as you are trying to do, after Israel had so rapidly and thoroughly defeated the USSR's attempt to control the ME.

Don't come crying to me, tell that to the crew members who survived the attack plus all the other senior well placed officials who say it wasn't an accident.

This notion is absurd for at least two reasons. First, it takes a special kind of stupid to believe that in the icy depths of the Cold War the US Navy would aid Soviet client states in their advance across the ME toward the Gulf oil reserves, and second, because after Israel had destroyed most of the Egyptian air force on the ground in the first hour if the war there was no intel that could have saved Egypt and Syria (and the Soviets) from final defeat.

I never said any of those things though, if someone did then raise it with them, I just said it wasn't an accident.

If your loyalty is to Israel rather than your own country and it's service men and women, then I'd you have a problem.

 

[Churchill]

It makes sense, but the fact is Israel abided by International Humanitarian Law to the point that Israeli generals could not order non emergency attacks without first being cleared by IDF lawyers that the attack abided by IHL.

Were you familiar with the actual facts of the conflict, instead of just being familiar with anti Israel propaganda, you would recognize the extensive damage to civilian infrastructure was due to the fact that Hamas was located in tunnels beneath the cities, requiring the IDF to go through civilian areas to get to Hamas.

Wake up you jackass.

Israel has never signed a non-proliferation agreement for nuclear weapons, it has never ratified the conventions on chemical or biological weapons, yet you expect ever other country to do so?

What kind of head injury befell you that has led to this delusional obsession with a bunch of later day Nazis?

Israel is just another pissant throwback country, and a pretty disgusting one at that, but I bet you'd love to live there so you can gloat over the inhuman treatment the place gives to non-Jews.

Gavin Newsom likens Israel to ‘an apartheid state’ and decries war on Iran

California governor, promoting his memoir in LA, was asked if US should rethink military partnership with Israel

www.theguardian.com

More and more of the American people are waking up to reality - go and look at the stats.

 

[Churchill]

The definition of genocide has nothing to do with the number of people killed but only with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group so clearly anyone who is calling what is happening in Gaza a genocide is either an idiot or a liar.

Over the past 100 years that's precisely what the demonic Zionists have been doing. Destroying Arab and Christian villages, forcing people off their land, poisoning water supplies, violating agreements over Al Aqsa, aiding and abetting fanatical gangs of thugs - sorry - "settlers" as they rampage over Muslim and Christian owned farms.

I mean WTF is a "settler" other than a colonial invader and occupier? Where do settlers come from? how does an Israeli citizen become a settler? can anyone become one or only Jews? do you need a permit? special qualifications? just pick up a gun, pick some occupied farm and kick the inhabitants out?

Imprisoning children and adults without trial, refusing to define what they want Israel's official border to be, bombing neighbors like Lebanon, Syria, Jordan etc as and when they see fit, starving people, killing people, destroy destroy destroy...

This is all prophesized in Thessalonians 2:

that right there is the proof, the state of Israel and the fake Christians who obsess over it are all aspects of the strong delusion and you have been caught up in it, you are spiritually blind, one day your eyes will be opened and you will repent and weep.

The Zionist monster is the antithesis of what Christ taught, to obsessively defend Israel as you do is to trample on Christ and his word.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Judging by the number of books, documentaries and speaking engagements and interviews with former crew, I'd there is an issue.

Yes, that's because it's a conspiracy, don't you know what "conspiracy" means?

Don't come crying to me, tell that to the crew members who survived the attack plus all the other senior well placed officials who say it wasn't an accident.

I never said any of those things though, if someone did then raise it with them, I just said it wasn't an accident.

If your loyalty is to Israel rather than your own country and it's service men and women, then I'd you have a proble

Of course you said those things; you are just too stupid to realize you did. Your whole argument is that Israel destroyed the Liberty because the Liberty was sending intelligence to Egypt, a Soviet client state, which means the US government would have been helping the Soviets establish themselves in the ME, a short distance from the Gulf oil reserves the global economy relies on.

All you do is post anti American and anti Israel propaganda and you don't even understand what it means.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Wake up you jackass.

Israel has never signed a non-proliferation agreement for nuclear weapons, it has never ratified the conventions on chemical or biological weapons, yet you expect ever other country to do so?

What kind of head injury befell you that has led to this delusional obsession with a bunch of later day Nazis?

Israel is just another pissant throwback country, and a pretty disgusting one at that, but I bet you'd love to live there so you can gloat over the inhuman treatment the place gives to non-Jews.

Gavin Newsom likens Israel to ‘an apartheid state’ and decries war on Iran

California governor, promoting his memoir in LA, was asked if US should rethink military partnership with Israel

www.theguardian.com

More and more of the American people are waking up to reality - go and look at the stats.

There you go trying to change the subject again. Your post has nothing to do with Israel's actions in Gaza.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Over the past 100 years that's precisely what the demonic Zionists have been doing. Destroying Arab and Christian villages, forcing people off their land, poisoning water supplies, violating agreements over Al Aqsa, aiding and abetting fanatical gangs of thugs - sorry - "settlers" as they rampage over Muslim and Christian owned farms.

I mean WTF is a "settler" other than a colonial invader and occupier? Where do settlers come from? how does an Israeli citizen become a settler? can anyone become one or only Jews? do you need a permit? special qualifications? just pick up a gun, pick some occupied farm and kick the inhabitants out?

Imprisoning children and adults without trial, refusing to define what they want Israel's official border to be, bombing neighbors like Lebanon, Syria, Jordan etc as and when they see fit, starving people, killing people, destroy destroy destroy...

This is all prophesized in Thessalonians 2:

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that right there is the proof, the state of Israel and the fake Christians who obsess over it are all aspects of the strong delusion and you have been caught up in it, you are spiritually blind, one day your eyes will be opened and you will repent and weep.

The Zionist monster is the antithesis of what Christ taught, to obsessively defend Israel as you do is to trample on Christ and his word.

Again you demonstrate you are incapable of discussing any issue concerning Israel without falling back on antisemitic bullshit.

 

[Churchill]

Again you demonstrate you are incapable of discussing any issue concerning Israel without falling back on antisemitic bullshit.

The Zionists hate everyone, non-Zionist Jews, Muslims and Christians and have from the outset shortly after WW1.

Their value system is demonic, the antithesis of traditional Judaism, Islam and Christianity.

At least Muslims acknowledge Jesus as a prophet.

Christians in Israel mark Easter in destroyed village

Surrounded by spring flowers and the ruins of their family homes near Israel's border with Lebanon, Christians gathered Friday to ensure their Easter traditions survive decades after the destruction of their village. There had been doubts the pilgrimage would happen at all after militants in...

www.al-monitor.com

 

[toomuchtime_]

The Zionists hate everyone, non-Zionist Jews, Muslims and Christians and have from the outset shortly after WW1.

Their value system is demonic, the antithesis of traditional Judaism, Islam and Christianity.

Christians in Israel mark Easter in destroyed village

Surrounded by spring flowers and the ruins of their family homes near Israel's border with Lebanon, Christians gathered Friday to ensure their Easter traditions survive decades after the destruction of their village. There had been doubts the pilgrimage would happen at all after militants in...

www.al-monitor.com

Ok, so you are a fully committed antisemite, and facts don't mean anything to you. That explains why your attempts to discuss current events are so stupid.

 

[Churchill]

Ok, so you are a fully committed antisemite, and facts don't mean anything to you. That explains why your attempts to discuss current events are so stupid.

Stop pretending you're normal, your are a Zionist shill nothing more.

I'm with this man, why aren't you? that's a serious question, what would you say to him if he said this to you?

come on lets here it, please tell this Jew, a survivor of Nazi atrocities why he doesn't know what he's talking about, go on, we're listening...

 

[toomuchtime_]

Stop pretending you're normal, your are a Zionist shill nothing more.

I'm with this man, why aren't you? that's a serious question, what would you say to him if he said this to you?

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come on lets here it, please tell this Jew, a survivor of Nazi atrocities why he doesn't know what he's talking about, go on, we're listening...

Again, lots oof attitude in your posts, but still no sign of intelligence.

 

[Churchill]

Again, lots oof attitude in your posts, but still no sign of intelligence.

I know a threat when I see one, unlike a gullible buffoon like you.

Jonathan Pollard - Wikipedia

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These guys own the USA, how dumb can you be! Your closest ally? WTF is the US smoking !

 

[toomuchtime_]

I know a threat when I see one, unlike a gullible buffoon like you.

Jonathan Pollard - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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These guys own the USA, how dumb can you be! Your closest ally? WTF is the US smoking !

No, you are just a simple minded bigot unable to provide rational explanations for your beliefs. The quote at the end of my posts is all about you and other mindless bigots.


"A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses; it is an idea that possesses the mind."

Robert Oxton Bolt

 

[Churchill]

No, you are just a simple minded bigot unable to provide rational explanations for your beliefs.

Which purported "belief" are you referring to? Quote me, then explain why you disagree with what you quoted.

The quote at the end of my posts is all about you and other mindless bigots.

"A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses; it is an idea that possesses the mind."

Robert Oxton Bolt

I made no mention of "beliefs", your resorting strawman again.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Which purported "belief" are you referring to? Quote me, then explain why you disagree with what you quoted.

I made no mention of "beliefs", your resorting strawman again.

Your passionate antisemitism and anti Americanism. These beliefs are what prevent you from being able to think about current events rationally.

All ideologues, both religious and secular, suffer from the same limitations you do, they are unable to consider facts or issues that may challenge their beliefs, although are an extreme example of this disability. You are able to post your beliefs but you can't examine them.

 

[Churchill]

Your passionate antisemitism and anti Americanism.

That assertion says more about you than it does about me. Quote my words that you are misinterpreting and let us discuss.

I'm truly interested in what it was I actually wrote that has confused you, so just quote me.

These beliefs are what prevent you from being able to think about current events rationally.

You are imagining things, all you need do is state precisely what I said that you object to and allow me to respond, i never stated any beliefs.

All ideologues, both religious and secular, suffer from the same limitations you do, they are unable to consider facts or issues that may challenge their beliefs, although are an extreme example of this disability. You are able to post your beliefs but you can't examine them.

As I said above your reactions are your (emotional) reactions, they reflect your interpretations. Paraphrasing me is cowardice, quote me and we can discuss, let us examine things together.

Now another question, is this American also anti-American?



You're afraid to intellectually engage me, why?

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Phil Tourney was awarded a Bronze Star for his heroic actions aboard the USS Liberty.

"In attacking the USS Liberty, Israel committed acts of murder against US servicemen and an act of war against the United States." - Admiral Thomas Moorer, Former Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Phil Tourney:

"Here we go again. Whatever Israel wants, Israel gets. Never forget the brave men aboard the USS Liberty were slaughtered by the Zionist state of Israel. June 8th, 1967. Now, here we go again with Iran. What happened in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, over and over again. All these have fought for Israel, not the American people. Israel comes first, not the American people. It's been that way ever since I've been alive. It's time Americans stand up. Say no more wars for Israel.

Not one more dead body. Not one more dead person. They're bombing schools. 51 more children killed in the first day at school trying to learn. You know, it's despicable. What we what are we doing here in America? President Trump, what are you doing? Is it the Epstein files? Is that what you made you do this? The Aipac all the Aipac people in America taking money from Aipac, our Congress, our senators. Where are we going here in America? America first only. Only America first. Remember that, folks.

Tell your neighbors, your friends, everybody about this. We need to stand together. We want no more wars.W e want no more death. We want life. and liberty and justice followed the Constitution. No one's allowed to declare war except the the Congress of the United States. And here we are. Trump, he pulled the trigger without permission from Congress. We don't need to be in a war with anybody."

The Day Israel Attacked America. The surviving sailors speak.


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The USS Liberty incident was "59" years ago. Crap happens and in conflicts, people die. Israel was in the middle of a conflict with three Muslim nations. Israel is an ally. A strong one when it comes to being against Islamists and Islam will never really be a reliable ally. They are a conquering religion hellbent on conquering the world through every means necessary.
Japan killed 415,000 Americans, attacking us without provocation. Yet here we are 80 years later, allies and will go to war against China and North Korea to defend their nation.
Times are relationships change and we rightfully stand with Israel when it comes to Islam.
We should stand with any non-Muslim nation. I stand with Hindus against Islam. I stand with Buddhists against Islam. I stand with Christians against Islam. I stand with Shinto's against Islam, and I stand with Atheists against Islam.
Saudi Arabia recently said that they would no longer use violence against non-believers..."as long as they don't interfere with our world goal." Well, that world goal is conquering the world, so at some point there will be a war with them.

 

[Churchill]

The USS Liberty incident was "59" years ago. Crap happens and in conflicts, people die. Israel was in the middle of a conflict with three Muslim nations.

Israel is an ally.

Why do you say that? what does that actually mean?

A strong one when it comes to being against Islamists and Islam will never really be a reliable ally. They are a conquering religion hellbent on conquering the world through every means necessary.
Japan killed 415,000 Americans, attacking us without provocation. Yet here we are 80 years later, allies and will go to war against China and North Korea to defend their nation.
Times are relationships change and we rightfully stand with Israel when it comes to Islam.
We should stand with any non-Muslim nation. I stand with Hindus against Islam. I stand with Buddhists against Islam. I stand with Christians against Islam. I stand with Shinto's against Islam, and I stand with Atheists against Islam.
Saudi Arabia recently said that they would no longer use violence against non-believers..."as long as they don't interfere with our world goal." Well, that world goal is conquering the world, so at some point there will be a war with them.