USS Liberty Survivor Phil Tourney Blasts Trump Iran Attack: "Here We Go Again...No More Wars for Israel," Says Trump Compromised by Epstein

[dudmuck]

Very few. Far less than there will be dead Iranian terrorists.

The US is only going to be there for a few weeks. After that, Iran will be crippled and Israel can target the government at will. I imagine that the jews will be kicking muslim ass for a long time over there, unless Iran finds a new government that we approve of.

 

[georgephillip]

t makes sense, but the fact is Israel abided by International Humanitarian Law to the point that Israeli generals could not order non emergency attacks without first being cleared by IDF lawyers that the attack abided by IHL.

Can you provide any credible evidence in support of that bit of hasbara deception?

Israel displays no regard for international law as evidenced by the facts it has yet to declare formal borders, constantly invades its neighbors like Lebanon and Syria, conducts ethnic cleansing and collective punishment on the West Bank, and commits open genocide in Gaza.

GoogleAI Overview:

"Israel does not have fully defined, internationally recognized borders. While its borders with Egypt and Jordan are recognized via peace treaties, the borders with Syria, Lebanon, and the Palestinian territories remain disputed, largely following 1949 armistice lines (Green Line) or undefined areas following the 1967 war."

Wikipedia +2

"Key Details Regarding Israel's Borders:

 

[georgephillip]

Were you familiar with the actual facts of the conflict, instead of just being familiar with anti Israel propaganda, you would recognize the extensive damage to civilian infrastructure was due to the fact that Hamas was located in tunnels beneath the cities, requiring the IDF to go through civilian areas to get to Hamas.

Hamas is a legitimate self-defense organization under international law while the racist Israeli occupation of Palestine has no legal underpinning. The only reason a Jewish supremacist state exists in Palestine is the support provided by the US for its own selfish interests.

 

[georgephillip]

Of course all this is nonsense. There are public records of a Naval Board of Review, a Congressional investigation, and two Presidential commissions.

Prove it.

 

[georgephillip]

Of course I answered your question and even gave you tow examples of Arab leaders publicly stating they intended to commit a genocide against the Jews, but you apparently were unsure how to respond so you pretend I didn't answer your question.

Are you capable of distinguishing between a statement of genocidal intent and actually committing a genocide like the one Jews are perpetrating in Gaza at this very instant?

My question was: "When was the last time Muslim's waged genocide against Jews?"

You did not provide an answer to that question, instead you launched into a rant about the legitimate Arab rejection of the UN's 1948 partition of Palestine which gave a Jewish minority a majority of the land; thereby, violating its own Charter which required free elections in 1948 Palestine.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Can you provide any credible evidence in support of that bit of hasbara deception?

Israel displays no regard for international law as evidenced by the facts it has yet to declare formal borders, constantly invades its neighbors like Lebanon and Syria, conducts ethnic cleansing and collective punishment on the West Bank, and commits open genocide in Gaza.

GoogleAI Overview:

"Israel does not have fully defined, internationally recognized borders. While its borders with Egypt and Jordan are recognized via peace treaties, the borders with Syria, Lebanon, and the Palestinian territories remain disputed, largely following 1949 armistice lines (Green Line) or undefined areas following the 1967 war."
View attachment 1227877Wikipedia +2

"Key Details Regarding Israel's Borders:

AI Overview



The IDF employs a legal advisory system where military lawyers (under the Military Advocate General - MAG Corps) are involved in planning and operations to ensure compliance with International Humanitarian Law (IHL), including the review of specific targets
. While legal advisors are integrated into the command structure to advise on legality and proportionality, it is not standard practice for a lawyer to approve every single tactical, field-level strike in real-time.

The Jerusalem Post +2
Key Details on IDF Legal Procedures:

• Role of Legal Advisors: During the conflict, the MAG Corps provided operational legal advice to forces, focusing on targets, operational plans, and humanitarian issues.
• Pre-approval Process: While many, specifically high-value or complex targets, are reviewed for legality, the sheer volume of daily strikes in a conflict of this scale makes individual, real-time legal approval for every single shot by a lawyer impractical, with legal advice often setting the rules of engagement and parameters.
• Compliance Framework: The IDF maintains that it operates under IHL, using legal advisors to ensure, where possible, that attacks avoid excessive civilian harm and that precautions are taken.
• Oversight: The MAG Corps is considered independently, with decisions subject to oversight by the Attorney General and the Supreme Court.
• Investigation: The IDF conducts internal reviews, and if there is suspicion of criminal violations, a criminal investigation may be initiated, although this process is sometimes questioned for impartiality.
  
  
  Human Rights Watch +3

 

[toomuchtime_]

Are you capable of distinguishing between a statement of genocidal intent and actually committing a genocide like the one Jews are perpetrating in Gaza at this very instant?

My question was: "When was the last time Muslim's waged genocide against Jews?"

You did not provide an answer to that question, instead you launched into a rant about the legitimate Arab rejection of the UN's 1948 partition of Palestine which gave a Jewish minority a majority of the land; thereby, violating its own Charter which required free elections in 1948 Palestine.

My post was not about intent but about failed attempts by the Arabs to commit genocide against the Jews. Somehow in your twisted mind you confuse Arab incompetence with Arab morality.

Of course nothing that happened in Gaza fits the UN defintion of genocide:

AI Overview

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The UN defines genocide as
specific acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group. Established by the 1948 Genocide Convention, it includes killing, causing serious harm, deliberately inflicting life-threatening conditions, preventing births, or forcibly transferring children.

Welcome to the United Nations +4
Key Components of the Definition:

• Mental Element (Intent): There must be a proven, specific intent to physically destroy a group.
• Physical Element (Acts):
  • Killing members of the group
    .
  • • Causing serious bodily or mental harm.
    • Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about physical destruction.
    • Imposing measures to prevent births.
    • Forcibly transferring children.
  • Targeted Groups: The definition is limited to national, ethnical, racial, or religious groups.
    
    
    Welcome to the United Nations +4

Legal Significance:
Genocide is a crime under international law, binding all states regardless of whether they have ratified the Convention. It differs from "crimes against humanity" in that it requires specific intent to target a group as such rather than individuals randomly.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Hamas is a legitimate self-defense organization under international law while the racist Israeli occupation of Palestine has no legal underpinning. The only reason a Jewish supremacist state exists in Palestine is the support provided by the US for its own selfish interests.

As always, you show yourself incapable of discussing the facts and have nothing but wild propaganda statements to post.

 

[georgephillip]

My post was not about intent but about failed attempts by the Arabs to commit genocide against the Jews. Somehow in your twisted mind you confuse Arab incompetence with Arab morality.

You still haven't answered the question, "When was the last time Muslims committed a genocide against Jews?"

If that one's too difficult for your MAGA mind to grasp, when was the last failed attempt by Arabs to genocide greedy, racist Jews in Israel?

Evidence of Israeli genocide in Gaza:

GoogleAI Overview:

"Allegations of genocide against Palestinians in Gaza are based on evidence including high civilian casualties, the destruction of infrastructure, and blockades on essentials, which critics argue show intent to destroy the population.

"Proponents point to statements by Israeli leaders as evidence of intent, while South Africa's case at the ICJ highlights the 'systematic nature' of actions.

Wikipedia
"Key points regarding these allegations include:

• "Statements of Intent: Reports allege that Israeli political and military leaders have made statements dehumanizing Palestinians and justifying or praising actions against..."

 

[georgephillip]

AI Overview



The IDF employs a legal advisory system where military lawyers (under the Military Advocate General - MAG Corps) are involved in planning and operations to ensure compliance with International Humanitarian Law (IHL), including the review of specific targets
. While legal advisors are integrated into the command structure to advise on legality and proportionality, it is not standard practice for a lawyer to approve every single tactical, field-level strike in real-time.
View attachment 1228221The Jerusalem Post +2
Key Details on IDF Legal Procedures:

• Role of Legal Advisors: During the conflict, the MAG Corps provided operational legal advice to forces, focusing on targets, operational plans, and humanitarian issues.
• Pre-approval Process: While many, specifically high-value or complex targets, are reviewed for legality, the sheer volume of daily strikes in a conflict of this scale makes individual, real-time legal approval for every single shot by a lawyer impractical, with legal advice often setting the rules of engagement and parameters.
• Compliance Framework: The IDF maintains that it operates under IHL, using legal advisors to ensure, where possible, that attacks avoid excessive civilian harm and that precautions are taken.
• Oversight: The MAG Corps is considered independently, with decisions subject to oversight by the Attorney General and the Supreme Court.
• Investigation: The IDF conducts internal reviews, and if there is suspicion of criminal violations, a criminal investigation may be initiated, although this process is sometimes questioned for impartiality.
  View attachment 1228224Human Rights Watch +3

You ask greedy, racist, psychotic Israeli Jews if they are committing genocide in Gaza.

They say no.

You swallow twice and salute.

Pathetic.

GoogleAI Overview:

• "Statements of Intent: Reports allege that Israeli political and military leaders have made statements dehumanizing Palestinians and justifying or praising actions against them.
• Scale of Destruction: The high number of Palestinian casualties—over 72,000 reported in the Gaza war—along with the destruction of homes, schools, and cultural heritage, is cited as evidence of genocidal action.
• Life-Threatening Conditions: The restriction of food, water, and medical aid, coupled with the targeting of essential health services, is highlighted as an attempt to cause the destruction of the group.
• Legal Action: South Africa has brought a case before the International Court of Justice (ICJ) alleging that Israel's actions are genocidal in character."
  
  
  Wikipedia +2

"Israel has strongly denied these allegations, arguing that its actions are in self-defense against Hamas, which it accuses of using civilians as human shields, and that it is not targeting the Palestinian people."

 

[georgephillip]

As always, you show yourself incapable of discussing the facts and have nothing but wild propaganda statements to post.

Why don't we discuss the facts surrounding the Palestinians' right to armed resistance stemming from Israel's denial of Palestinian right of self determination?

Do you believe Israel denies Palestinians the right to self determination?

Palestinian right of armed resistance - Wikipedia.

 

[toomuchtime_]

You still haven't answered the question, "When was the last time Muslims committed a genocide against Jews?"

If that one's too difficult for your MAGA mind to grasp, when was the last failed attempt by Arabs to genocide greedy, racist Jews in Israel?

Evidence of Israeli genocide in Gaza:

GoogleAI Overview:

"Allegations of genocide against Palestinians in Gaza are based on evidence including high civilian casualties, the destruction of infrastructure, and blockades on essentials, which critics argue show intent to destroy the population.

"Proponents point to statements by Israeli leaders as evidence of intent, while South Africa's case at the ICJ highlights the 'systematic nature' of actions.
View attachment 1228287Wikipedia
"Key points regarding these allegations include:

• "Statements of Intent: Reports allege that Israeli political and military leaders have made statements dehumanizing Palestinians and justifying or praising actions against..."

Your question has been answered three times now.

 

[toomuchtime_]

You ask greedy, racist, psychotic Israeli Jews if they are committing genocide in Gaza.

They say no.

You swallow twice and salute.

Pathetic.

GoogleAI Overview:

• "Statements of Intent: Reports allege that Israeli political and military leaders have made statements dehumanizing Palestinians and justifying or praising actions against them.
• Scale of Destruction: The high number of Palestinian casualties—over 72,000 reported in the Gaza war—along with the destruction of homes, schools, and cultural heritage, is cited as evidence of genocidal action.
• Life-Threatening Conditions: The restriction of food, water, and medical aid, coupled with the targeting of essential health services, is highlighted as an attempt to cause the destruction of the group.
• Legal Action: South Africa has brought a case before the International Court of Justice (ICJ) alleging that Israel's actions are genocidal in character."
  View attachment 1228292Wikipedia +2

"Israel has strongly denied these allegations, arguing that its actions are in self-defense against Hamas, which it accuses of using civilians as human shields, and that it is not targeting the Palestinian people."

I asked Google if it was indeed true that Israel went to extraordinary lengths to be sure it was abiding by International Humanitarian Law, and after examining all the information on the Internet related to the subject Google AI said it was true, as you can see from my previous post.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Why don't we discuss the facts surrounding the Palestinians' right to armed resistance stemming from Israel's denial of Palestinian right of self determination?

Do you believe Israel denies Palestinians the right to self determination?

Palestinian right of armed resistance - Wikipedia.

First you say you want to discuss facts and then you post anti Israel propaganda. Apparently, you don't understand what the word, fact, means.