USS Liberty

[mikegriffith1]

Your grasp of history and the facts remains so twisted I won't bother today. I will leave it up to the OP to deal with your really REALLY remarkably strange characterization of him. Have a pleasant day.

Yeap. He's a loon. Just as a reminder, below are some of the neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic statements he has made in this forum--they are quoted verbatim, i.e., word for word (except I've replaced his profanity with random characters, and I've added bracketed notes to explain the context in a few cases). What is so odd is that he's also an ardent defender of mass murderer Mao Tse Tung. Anyway, let's read some of his troubling statements:

Again, Hitler wasn't the problem. The problem was your average German who had to eat the family dog in 1919 because the feckless idiots overthrew the Kaiser and forced a humiliating peace.

Now, if you want to downplay the roll Jewish revolutionaries played in toppling the Kaiser, or how Jewish Bankers screwed Germany in the economic turmoil that occurred in the 1920's, that's fine.

What Hitler did was horrible. But the way Jews screwed Germany (and most of the rest of Europe) after World War I definitely provoked that animosity.

Was it [the Holocaust] bad? I guess.

The problem with most analysis of Nazism is that it ignores what an absolute [crap]-show Weimar Germany was.

Again, investigations [into the USS Liberty incident] that were told by LBJ what their conclusion was. But, no, no, our government isn't controlled by the Zionist Lobby at all.

You are right, I don't believe the Zionist *&$%$#, and I don't believe our lying traitor government that sold out to them decades ago.

Or Painter told this to the Navy Inquiry and it was covered up. This is the problem when you let Jews take over your government.

If Israel didn't exist, do you think we'd have a terror problem? We wouldn't.

[Regarding Hamas's October 7 attack that killed over 1,000 Israeli civilians] Yawn, guy, if you [the Israelis who lived near Gaza on October 7] are stupid enough to live next to people who want to murder you, don't come whining to me that they want to murder you.

Right, just keep pretending they [Jewish bankers who control the economy] aren't a thing.

 

[PeterPilot]

Only someone completely ignorant of history could post that. I suppose that is why it is a Pakistani Muslim, born in Kuwait, with ties to several Muslim terrorist groups (mostly Al Qaida) who is serving a life sentence for that crime. His stated motive in bombing the World Trade Center was to kill a Zionist leader and everybody else because of the U.S. support for Israel. He remains in prison serving a life sentence with no chance of parole for that crime.

When PBS connected the dots, there are no Israeli or Zionist connections there:

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Connecting The Dots | The Man Who Knew | FRONTLINE | PBS

And you will be unable to produce any hint of Zionist involvement with any credible source.

Only one as thoroughly indoctrinated by Zionist propaganda as you are could post all that fiction.

 

[Foxfyre]

Yeap. He's a loon. Just as a reminder, below are some of the neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic statements he has made in this forum--they are quoted verbatim, i.e., word for word (except I've replaced his profanity with random characters, and I've added bracketed notes to explain the context in a few cases). What is so odd is that he's also an ardent defender of mass murderer Mao Tse Tung. Anyway, let's read some of his troubling statements:

Again, Hitler wasn't the problem. The problem was your average German who had to eat the family dog in 1919 because the feckless idiots overthrew the Kaiser and forced a humiliating peace.

Now, if you want to downplay the roll Jewish revolutionaries played in toppling the Kaiser, or how Jewish Bankers screwed Germany in the economic turmoil that occurred in the 1920's, that's fine.

What Hitler did was horrible. But the way Jews screwed Germany (and most of the rest of Europe) after World War I definitely provoked that animosity.

Was it [the Holocaust] bad? I guess.

The problem with most analysis of Nazism is that it ignores what an absolute [crap]-show Weimar Germany was.

Again, investigations [into the USS Liberty incident] that were told by LBJ what their conclusion was. But, no, no, our government isn't controlled by the Zionist Lobby at all.

You are right, I don't believe the Zionist *&$%$#, and I don't believe our lying traitor government that sold out to them decades ago.

Or Painter told this to the Navy Inquiry and it was covered up. This is the problem when you let Jews take over your government.

If Israel didn't exist, do you think we'd have a terror problem? We wouldn't.

[Regarding Hamas's October 7 attack that killed over 1,000 Israeli civilians] Yawn, guy, if you [the Israelis who lived near Gaza on October 7] are stupid enough to live next to people who want to murder you, don't come whining to me that they want to murder you.

Right, just keep pretending they [Jewish bankers who control the economy] aren't a thing.

Well at least he is consistent.

 

[Foxfyre]

Only one as thoroughly indoctrinated by Zionist propaganda as you are could post all that fiction.

Not fiction as it is all on the record and verifiable by reliable sources. Your posts on the other hand. . .

 

[PeterPilot]

Not fiction as it is all on the record and verifiable by reliable sources. Your posts on the other hand. . .

LOL, yeah on the record in the Scofield Reference Bible. Goofy is as goofy does.

 

[Lisa558]

Well at least he is consistent.

He’s consistent in his bigotry toward Jews.

He is NOT consistent in his view of bigotry in general.

 

[PeterPilot]

Thanks to all the Zionists here for the positive reinforcement.

 

[Foxfyre]

LOL, yeah on the record in the Scofield Reference Bible. Goofy is as goofy does.

Is that your pet name for PBS? Interesting.

 

[Foxfyre]

He’s consistent in his bigotry toward Jews.

He is NOT consistent in his view of bigotry in general.

That is a pretty reliable hallmark of an unserious and disingenuous person. At the very least he seems to be totally incompetent to defend any of the bigoted concepts he expressed.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeap. He's a loon. Just as a reminder, below are some of the neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic statements he has made in this forum--they are quoted verbatim, i.e., word for word (except I've replaced his profanity with random characters, and I've added bracketed notes to explain the context in a few cases). What is so odd is that he's also an ardent defender of mass murderer Mao Tse Tung. Anyway, let's read some of his troubling statements:

So you rewrite and edit what I say out of context because you couldn't intelligently make the argument. And when that doesn't work, just make shit up.

Okay, make it simple. I gave you a reason why the Germans killed the Jews. (That they played a role in the human misery that was the Weimar Republic) You might not like it, but it doesn't make it less true.

Because other than your fake outrage, you can't argue against anything I've really pointed out.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

30 some odd years after it attacked the Liberty, the Zionist State which owns the US Government and its Pentagon planned and executed the attacks at WTC, and that included nuclear weapons.

You nailed it well said.

For the brainwashed sheep that still believe the fairly tale of the 9/11 coverup commission report,they need to read David ray griffins book debunking the 9/11 debunking an answer to popular mechanics and other defenders of the official conspiracy theory,he shreads to pieces the official version that it was impossible for 19 Muslims to pull off 9/11. That only the government could have done so.nobody has ever been able to debunk that book.

They evade pesky facts that the pentagon is the most secure airspace in the world if anything that’s not suppose to be there like an unauthorized jet,they have protocals in place to have jet fighters intercept it or if worse comes to worse,shoot it down,they didn’t just all of a sudden become incompetent that day. The official conspiracy theory apologists are so much in denial PeterPilot. That they don’t want to use common sense and reason.

The official conspiracy theory apologists always evade the fact that Bibi himself said 9/11 was good fir Israel and evade the facts that there were Israelies jumping up and down on a rooftop cheering and were arrested and then let go allowed to flyback to Israel. That’s WHY it still matters today because the same kind of atrocities they were pulling off back then is STILL going on today as you brilliantly pointed out.

The video 9/11 missing links also exposed in spades The role of Israel. Nobody has ever been able to disprove it was a joint CIA/mossad operation.

Same as oswald denied that he shot jfk bin laden also denied he did 9/11. There was never any evidence oswald did it and never any proof bin laden did 9/11 either.

9/11 was a joint CIA/mossad operation as was the jfk assassination,well done proving how Israel’s atrocity’s they committed back then STILL matter today.

The official conspiracy theory apologists probably still believe the fairy tale Warren commission report the magic butler theory as well.

 

[Foxfyre]

You nailed it well said.

For the brainwashed sheep that still believe the fairly tale of the 9/11 coverup commission report,they need to read David ray griffins book debunking the 9/11 debunking an answer to popular mechanics and other defenders of the official conspiracy theory,he shreads to pieces the official version that it was impossible for 19 Muslims to pull off 9/11. That only the government could have done so.nobody has ever been able to debunk that book.

They evade pesky facts that the pentagon is the most secure airspace in the world if anything that’s not suppose to be there like an unauthorized jet,they have protocals in place to have jet fighters intercept it or if worse comes to worse,shoot it down,they didn’t just all of a sudden become incompetent that day. The official conspiracy theory apologists are so much in denial PeterPilot. That they don’t want to use common sense and reason.

The official conspiracy theory apologists always evade the fact that Bibi himself said 9/11 was good fir Israel and evade the facts that there were Israelies jumping up and down on a rooftop cheering and were arrested and then let go allowed to flyback to Israel. That’s WHY it still matters today because the same kind of atrocities they were pulling off back then is STILL going on today as you brilliantly pointed out.

The video 9/11 missing links also exposed in spades The role of Israel. Nobody has ever been able to disprove it was a joint CIA/mossad operation.

Same as oswald denied that he shot jfk bin laden also denied he did 9/11. There was never any evidence oswald did it and never any proof bin laden did 9/11 either.

9/11 was a joint CIA/mossad operation as was the jfk assassination,well done proving how Israel’s atrocity’s they committed back then STILL matter today.

The official conspiracy theory apologists probably still believe the fairy tale Warren commission report the magic butler theory as well.

There are thousands and thousands of rabid, America hating, destructive, extremists out there. So you are guilty of all that yes? You are American after all. So you are guilty of anything and everything they do or want to do yes?

No you say? Why not?

Among millions of Israelis/Jews/Zionists, there are bound to a handful who are not honorable people. To tarnish an entire movement, concept, population, race/religion, nation because of the behavior of those few cannot be reasonably defended utilizing any concept of critical thinking or intellectual honesty.

 

[JoeB131]

There are thousands and thousands of rabid, America hating, destructive, extremists out there. So you are guilty of all that yes? You are American after all. So you are guilty of anything and everything they do or want to do yes?

No you say? Why not?

Among millions of Israelis/Jews/Zionists, there are bound to a handful who are not honorable people. To tarnish an entire movement, concept, population, race/religion, nation because of the behavior of those few cannot be reasonably defended utilizing any concept of critical thinking or intellectual honesty.

The whole concept of Zionism is corrupt.

It essentially holds that you can seize land from an indigenous people because your imaginary friend in the sky said so.

 

[Foxfyre]

The whole concept of Zionism is corrupt.

It essentially holds that you can seize land from an indigenous people because your imaginary friend in the sky said so.

Wow. Severe anti-JudeoChristianity coupled with severe antisemitism can make a person look really really foolish.

 

[Lisa558]

Wow. Severe anti-JudeoChristianity coupled with severe antisemitism can make a person look really really foolish.

I have him on ignore. Is it worth my taking a peek to see what the antisemitic Democrat said, or should it just remain a mystery?

 

[Foxfyre]

I have him on ignore. Is it worth my taking a peek to see what the antisemitic Democrat said, or should it just remain a mystery?

I rarely respond to him any more as his posts are almost always so ridiculously over the top hateful and irrational it is a waste of time.

My New Year's Resolution comes in handy when I can stick to it: Don't feed the trolls, argue with idiots, or engage in other exercises of futility.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

• Communications Failures: There were a number of communication breakdowns that hindered proper identification. For instance, information about the Liberty's location and identity was not effectively conveyed to the attacking forces. The ship's neutral classification was removed from the Israeli Navy's status board earlier in the day due to being considered outdated, potentially contributing to the mistaken identification.
• Wartime Conditions: The chaotic nature of the ongoing Six-Day War contributed to the errors and confusion that led to the attack.
• Misinterpretation of Events: An explosion ashore, possibly from an Egyptian ammunition dump, was mistaken by Israeli forces as shelling from a ship at sea, further solidifying the mistaken belief that the Liberty was an enemy vessel.
• Initial Engagement: When Israeli torpedo boats approached the Liberty, a sailor on the Liberty, disobeying orders, opened fire on them, further convincing the Israelis that it was an enemy ship.

 

[PeterPilot]

Wow. Severe anti-JudeoChristianity coupled with severe antisemitism can make a person look really really foolish.

Old news, all you have is name calling. You cannot defend the Zionist actions over 70+ years, so all you can do is call names and cry.

 

[Foxfyre]

• Communications Failures: There were a number of communication breakdowns that hindered proper identification. For instance, information about the Liberty's location and identity was not effectively conveyed to the attacking forces. The ship's neutral classification was removed from the Israeli Navy's status board earlier in the day due to being considered outdated, potentially contributing to the mistaken identification.
• Wartime Conditions: The chaotic nature of the ongoing Six-Day War contributed to the errors and confusion that led to the attack.
• Misinterpretation of Events: An explosion ashore, possibly from an Egyptian ammunition dump, was mistaken by Israeli forces as shelling from a ship at sea, further solidifying the mistaken belief that the Liberty was an enemy vessel.
• Initial Engagement: When Israeli torpedo boats approached the Liberty, a sailor on the Liberty, disobeying orders, opened fire on them, further convincing the Israelis that it was an enemy ship.

That is the history I've read too and believe it to be reliable. "Friendly fire" happens in pretty much every war situation. I do believe the attack on the Liberty was a case of mistaken identity.

And anything that happened almost six decades ago cannot be the whole basis for judging a people now.

 

[PeterPilot]

That is the history I've read too and believe it to be reliable. "Friendly fire" happens in pretty much every war situation. I do believe the attack on the Liberty was a case of mistaken identity.

And anything that happened almost six decades ago cannot be the whole basis for judging a people now.

The attack on the Liberty is not the only example of the Zionist State attacking the US. 911 is the biggest, and the incessant bribery of elected representatives makes them pass illegitimate legislation that contradicts constitutional governance might be worst of all.