USS Liberty

[JoeB131]

Yes, you ARE talking about Jews every time you use the term Zionist, subhuman.

well, it is their sense of entitlement that wears thin on people.

Not all Jews are Zionists though.

 

[HaShev]

Oh, I see, the Jews now own international waters?

According to crew members, the planes flew close enough to where they could see the pilots.

But, shit, let's leave the planes aside for the moment. The third attack was by boats on the water.

They knew what they were doing, and it was murder. If our government hadn't sold out to the Zionist Lobby, we'd see justice.

Thank you for revealing why you truly have a problem with the event, you don't have a problem with communication errors, you have a problem seeing Jews have equal rights of protection. YOU want to have power over them, you are a racist.

 

[JoeB131]

Thank you for revealing why you truly have a problem with the event, you don't have a problem with communication errors, you have a problem seeing Jews have equal rights of protection. YOU want to have power over them, you are a racist.

Um, how is invading someone else land, and then bombing an allied ship because they might have picked up signals of your sneak attack, "a right to protection"?

I have a problem with the Zionists/Jews because these events seem to be par for the course. "Whoops, we blew up your ship." "Whoops, we paid Jonathan Pollard to steal your secrets." "Whoops, we ran over Rachel Corry with a bulldozer", "Whoops, we blew up a hospital full of injured kids"

 

[HaShev]

Um, how is invading someone else land, and then bombing an allied ship because they might have picked up signals of your sneak attack, "a right to protection"?

I have a problem with the Zionists/Jews because these events seem to be par for the course. "Whoops, we blew up your ship." "Whoops, we paid Jonathan Pollard to steal your secrets." "Whoops, we ran over Rachel Corry with a bulldozer", "Whoops, we blew up a hospital full of injured kids"

Israel was the invaded Sherlock racist.
LABANON was the invaded by Syrian terrorists, Gaza today is invaded by Egyptian terrorists, Iran subversion, Syria, and Isis and other radical factions.
WHOOPS, Another car caught fire by Dems passing by the car and it spontaneous combusting.
WHOOPS, black smoke is billowing up to the sky polluting the air so cows can be lead to slaughter for their farts.
Whoops, everything you argued about was always wrong.

 

[JoeB131]

Israel was the invaded Sherlock racist.
LABANON was the invaded by Syrian terrorists, Gaza today is invaded by Egyptian terrorists, Iran subversion, Syria, and Isis and other radical factions.
WHOOPS, Another car caught fire by Dems passing by the car and it spontaneous combusting.
WHOOPS, black smoke is billowing up to the sky polluting the air so cows can be lead to slaughter for their farts.
Whoops, everything you argued about was always wrong.

You're babbling, buddie.

The Arabs are the natives of the Levant.

The Jews of Europe are the invaders.

 

[HaShev]

You're babbling, buddie.

The Arabs are the natives of the Levant.

The Jews of Europe are the invaders.

And the Jews they block from school class rooms and attack are born and raised in the U.S., the Kids they kidnaped were from Italy, US, Asia, and other countries therefore you and they don't have a beef about land rights you and they have a beef about race and religion.
You are just replying nonsense just to top post your antisemitic propaganda.
Now that "you brought up a different subject" I get the right to reply on that topic.
Many Jews were living in Palestine before the immigrations and settlements and were concentrated in four cities with religious significance: Jerusalem, Hebron, Safad and Tiberias. Most of Israel was described by Mark Twain as barren and the Arab influx trying to match the Jewish imigration is what unsuspected gullible people consider indegenous people is a big farce especially since they never controled the territory. You can't be occupied if you don't own what you claim someone's occupying it's like saying you a renter or squater had your house taken away when you don't own your house your landlord does.

The Arab population from 1920-1930 generally reaped the benefits of Jewish immigration, and did not oppose the establishment Jewish National Home. It wasn’t until a minority group of trouble makers started the beginning of this propaganda machine and incitement by chance Arafat's hero and possibly as some claim his uncle: Haj Amin Al-Husseini.
**(Note Arafats real full name is=Mohammed Yasser Abdul-Ra'ouf Qudwa Al-Husseini & his true birthplace I researched is in Cairo, Egypt the place this reported uncle of same last name returned to after his stay in Berlin.)

Facts: In 1921, the British divided this region in two: east of the Jordan River became the Emirate of Transjordan, to be ruled by Faysal's brother 'Abdullah, and west of the Jordan River became the Palestine Mandate.
Throughout the region, Arabs were angered by Britain, the owner controller who gave them their pie=biting the hand that feed them, but also making propaganda about
stealing land rediculous since they never owned/controlled the land.
Claims of occupation are also ludicrous since Iran, Syria and outside Radical Islamist are the occupiers of Palestine keeping them from peace, prosperity, and full autonomy.

During the rising tide of European Jewish immigration, land purchases (as opposed to the propaganda claiming theft of land) and settlement in Palestine generated increasing resistance by Palestinian Arab peasants, journalists and political figures. example letter of their concern which I found in their archives:
*1 ( Abdullah bin al-Hussein Amman on: 11 Thul Hijja 1364 Corresponding to: 16 November 1945 Presidency of the Arab League - Cairo"The Arab nation is wailing the urgent magnanimity of the Arab States and there is no time to waste, otherwise the Jews will be able to *buy new lands*and push new immigrants to Palestine.")
Secondly he mentions how they wanted to bring in Arab immigrants into Palestine on a monthly basis and in numbers equal to the Jewish immigrants.
Palestinian Arabs opposed the British Mandate because it thwarted their aspirations for self-rule, and opposed massive Jewish immigration because it threatened their position in the country and control of the region.

The Jewish National Fund purchased large tracts of land
from absentee Arab landowners, the Arabs living in these areas were evicted
by Britts in formation of the Jewish portion of Palestine, but also because of the Wars the Arabs were starting and had started. These displacements led to increasing tensions and violent confrontations between Jewish settlers and Arab peasant tenants.

European Jewish immigration to Palestine increased dramatically after Hitler's rise to power in 1933, leading to new land purchases and Jewish settlements. Palestinian resistance to British control and Zionist settlement climaxed with the Arab revolt of 1936-39, which Britain suppressed with the help of Zionist militias and the complicity of neighboring Arab regimes.

Because of the uprising by the Arabs many of the leaders became exhiled and they became seriously disorganized
during the crucial decade in which the future of Palestine was decided. If they hadn’t wanted the whole pie they would have been enjoying the half they were gonna get at the time and are still trying to be given but the brat won’t take it because it’s not the whole thing and they keep poking their forks into the pie handlers (Britts)hand as he feeds it to him.


(**Note Jews purchasing houses and land in arab neighborhoods that were being mandated or allotted as Jewish territory, was seen as wrong by the propaganda influenced & more predjudiced Arabs, but where they get theft from being allotted or purchasing of land is part of the ploy to distort history.
Their reactions and violence can be liken to the predjudiced reactions and violence against Black people when black people moved into white areas and bought homes in their neighborhoods they too where charged with all kinds of hate, violence and propaganda regarding their right to live and purchase where they chose to live.
The Jews in the midst of a huge Arabic Middle East were turly the despised minority who were not allowed to have a place to live if it meant changing the makeup of the middle eastern neighborhood.)***

 

[JoeB131]

And the Jews they block from school class rooms and attack are born and raised in the U.S., the Kids they kidnaped were from Italy, US, Asia, and other countries therefore you and they don't have a beef about land rights you and they have a beef about race and religion.
You are just replying nonsense just to top post your antisemitic propaganda.
Now that "you brought up a different subject" I get the right to reply on that topic.
Many Jews were living in Palestine before the immigrations and settlements and were concentrated in four cities with religious significance: Jerusalem, Hebron, Safad and Tiberias. Most of Israel was described by Mark Twain as barren and the Arab influx trying to match the Jewish imigration is what unsuspected gullible people consider indegenous people is a big farce especially since they never controled the territory. You can't be occupied if you don't own what you claim someone's occupying it's like saying you a renter or squater had your house taken away when you don't own your house your landlord does.

The Arab population from 1920-1930 generally reaped the benefits of Jewish immigration, and did not oppose the establishment Jewish National Home. It wasn’t until a minority group of trouble makers started the beginning of this propaganda machine and incitement by chance Arafat's hero and possibly as some claim his uncle: Haj Amin Al-Husseini.
**(Note Arafats real full name is=Mohammed Yasser Abdul-Ra'ouf Qudwa Al-Husseini & his true birthplace I researched is in Cairo, Egypt the place this reported uncle of same last name returned to after his stay in Berlin.)

Facts: In 1921, the British divided this region in two: east of the Jordan River became the Emirate of Transjordan, to be ruled by Faysal's brother 'Abdullah, and west of the Jordan River became the Palestine Mandate.
Throughout the region, Arabs were angered by Britain, the owner controller who gave them their pie=biting the hand that feed them, but also making propaganda about
stealing land rediculous since they never owned/controlled the land.
Claims of occupation are also ludicrous since Iran, Syria and outside Radical Islamist are the occupiers of Palestine keeping them from peace, prosperity, and full autonomy.

During the rising tide of European Jewish immigration, land purchases (as opposed to the propaganda claiming theft of land) and settlement in Palestine generated increasing resistance by Palestinian Arab peasants, journalists and political figures. example letter of their concern which I found in their archives:
*1 ( Abdullah bin al-Hussein Amman on: 11 Thul Hijja 1364 Corresponding to: 16 November 1945 Presidency of the Arab League - Cairo"The Arab nation is wailing the urgent magnanimity of the Arab States and there is no time to waste, otherwise the Jews will be able to *buy new lands*and push new immigrants to Palestine.")
Secondly he mentions how they wanted to bring in Arab immigrants into Palestine on a monthly basis and in numbers equal to the Jewish immigrants.
Palestinian Arabs opposed the British Mandate because it thwarted their aspirations for self-rule, and opposed massive Jewish immigration because it threatened their position in the country and control of the region.

The Jewish National Fund purchased large tracts of land
from absentee Arab landowners, the Arabs living in these areas were evicted
by Britts in formation of the Jewish portion of Palestine, but also because of the Wars the Arabs were starting and had started. These displacements led to increasing tensions and violent confrontations between Jewish settlers and Arab peasant tenants.

European Jewish immigration to Palestine increased dramatically after Hitler's rise to power in 1933, leading to new land purchases and Jewish settlements. Palestinian resistance to British control and Zionist settlement climaxed with the Arab revolt of 1936-39, which Britain suppressed with the help of Zionist militias and the complicity of neighboring Arab regimes.

Because of the uprising by the Arabs many of the leaders became exhiled and they became seriously disorganized
during the crucial decade in which the future of Palestine was decided. If they hadn’t wanted the whole pie they would have been enjoying the half they were gonna get at the time and are still trying to be given but the brat won’t take it because it’s not the whole thing and they keep poking their forks into the pie handlers (Britts)hand as he feeds it to him.


(**Note Jews purchasing houses and land in arab neighborhoods that were being mandated or allotted as Jewish territory, was seen as wrong by the propaganda influenced & more predjudiced Arabs, but where they get theft from being allotted or purchasing of land is part of the ploy to distort history.
Their reactions and violence can be liken to the predjudiced reactions and violence against Black people when black people moved into white areas and bought homes in their neighborhoods they too where charged with all kinds of hate, violence and propaganda regarding their right to live and purchase where they chose to live.
The Jews in the midst of a huge Arabic Middle East were turly the despised minority who were not allowed to have a place to live if it meant changing the makeup of the middle eastern neighborhood.)***

I could probably refute every paragraph of this, but what does this have to do with why the Zionists bombed a US ship in international waters when they were supposedly our allies?

 

[HaShev]

I could probably refute every paragraph of this, but what does this have to do with why the Zionists bombed a US ship in international waters when they were supposedly our allies?

What part of you bringing it up do you not grasp? THEREFORE You just blasted yourself "what does (what you brought up)- have to do with the topic"
You just revealed you brought it up over prejudice.
NOW BACK TO TOPIC: your standard and logic means we can blame liberals for this destruction of a ship.

 

[JoeB131]

What part of you bringing it up do you not grasp? THEREFORE You just blasted yourself "what does (what you brought up)- have to do with the topic"
You just revealed you brought it up over prejudice.
NOW BACK TO TOPIC: your standard and logic means we can blame liberals for this destruction of a ship.

Was that ship attacked, or did it just catch on fire due to the negligence of it's crew?

I mean, you can't seem to grasp that the Zionist Entity attacked the liberty, so you went on a long rant about how it was okay for them to steal land from the Arabs because the Germans were mean to them.

 

[HaShev]

Was that ship attacked, or did i wear my underware on backwards today while eating a chocolate pudding pop?

I mean, you can't seem to grasp that the Zionist Entity attacked the liberty, so you went on a long rant about how it was okay for them to steal land from the Arabs because the Germans were mean to them.

Yes attacked by liberals according to you and your standard of logic and we had car camera and street surveillance pics of liberals burning and attacking EVs on land.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes attacked by liberals according to you and your standard of logic and we had car camera and street surveillance pics of liberals burning and attacking EVs on land.

That is bizarre.

Now, if it turns out this ship was the victim of sabotage, that would be a different issue. (I don't think they were carrying Teslas, so there would be no reason for liberals to burn her.)

 

[HaShev]

That is bizarre.

Now, if it turns out this ship was the victim of sabotage, that would be a different issue. (I don't think they were carrying Teslas, so there would be no reason for liberals to burn her.)

Once again your topic not mine:
The PURPOSEFUL ATTACK ON INNOCENT VEHICLES IN LA BY LIBERALS and foreign invaders, done over arresting sex offenders drug dealers and violent gang members.
USING "YOUR" standard we can use a mirror of your antisemitic propaganda to say:
LIBERALS run Hollywood, Liberals run the media, liberals run the banks, Liberals are always involved in all the problems in this world, Liberals always loot and riot, Liberals always start fires when they can't win their verbal arguments. LIBERALS are to blame for the USS Liberty incident. We should block you from going to your kindergarten class.

 

[JoeB131]

Once again your topic not mine:
The PURPOSEFUL ATTACK ON INNOCENT VEHICLES IN LA BY LIBERALS and foreign invaders, done over arresting sex offenders drug dealers and violent gang members.

Try to stay on topic. The Topic is the dishonorable Zionist attack on USS Liberty.

Not some photoshop garbage you found on Faux News about the protests in LA.

 

[HaShev]

Try to stay on topic. The Topic is the dishonorable Zionist attack on USS Liberty.

Not some photoshop garbage you found on Faux News about the protests in LA.

The topic you changed or is it really much different?
So you're saying attacking visually marked police and ice cars is not the same as you are accussing, because Liberals are not a race you are prejudiced against?
BUSTED AGAIN!

 

[PeterPilot]

Not true, I couldn't find my uncle's friendly fire sunk Sub attack that killed the entire crew either. Another of those lack of communication incidents.

If you're speaking of the INS Dakar in 1968 Report reveals story of Israeli sub sunk in 1968 and if the rumors are true that the US Navy sunk that boat, it would not be friendly fire, it would be revenge by US Navy patriots for the attack on the Liberty.

 

[HaShev]

If you're speaking of the INS Dakar in 1968 Report reveals story of Israeli sub sunk in 1968 and if the rumors are true that the US Navy sunk that boat, it would not be friendly fire, it would be revenge by US Navy patriots for the attack on the Liberty.

Thanks, this was a US sub and the friendly fire accident was by a Brit Ship who thought it was a German sub, because nobody responded =communications error.
I TRIED figuring out which one but the ones I found did not have his name.
I did learn alot in my search, that being how dangerous subs are.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Hashev and shilom are obviously paid shills from Isreal that have penetrated this site people should put on ignore.here is the TRUTH on the attack of the USS LIBERTY that the MSM media and our corrupt congress will NEVER talk about.this was the MAIN reason JFK was killed,they knew LBJ would kiss Israels ass unlike Kennedy.

1. President John F Kennedy intensely pressured Israeli Prime Ministers David Ben Gurion and then Levi Eshkol to allow inspections of Israel's nuclear facilities. // 2. The Zionist Mafia then murdered JFK in 1963. // 3. LBJ -- above, all chummy with Eshkol -- replaced JFK and allowed the Israelis to do as they pleased from 1964-1968 (including the murder of Robert F Kennedy in 1968)..

Not content with the territory that it had already stolen back in 1947, Israel, ever playing the role of victim, initiated what became known as The Six Day War on June 5, 1967. The one-sided fight pitted US-armed Israel against the Arab states of Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt. One day after initiating the conflict -- hoping to bring the US into the war so that the Arab states could be annihilated in one fell swoop -- Israeli jets and torpedo boats deliberately attacked the USS Liberty. The helpless communications ship was on patrol in the Mediterranean Sea, near Egypt's Sinai Peninsula..The sustained daytime attack, which took place as the US flag flew visibly, killed 34 Americans, wounded 170, and badly damaged the vessel. Many of the dead and wounded lost their lives due to fighter jets firing upon their life boats. The Israelis finally called off the slaughter when they thought that help may have been on the way (a Russian vessel was also in the area). Our noble allies then claimed that the assault on the USS Liberty was a case of "mistaken identity." Of course, the government of Zion's wholly owned US President, the utterly contemptible Lyndon Baines Johnson, with the complicity of Offense Secretary Robert McNamara and Admiral John McCain Sr. (father of Senator McCain the Insane), accepted Zion's ridiculous claim and closed the book. And Congress didn't dare to investigate the matter either..But the detailed accounts of this dastardly war crime, given by American survivors, clearly contradict the Zionist lie. Their testimonies haven't wavered to this day. The object of the attack was to sink the Liberty, machine-gun any survivors, blame Egypt, and thus draw the US into a war on Israel's side. In spite of the US government's complicit coverup after the fact, more than a few high-powered men rejected the "mistaken identity" narrative.. Senator Bourke B. Hickenlooper (R-IA):. "From what I have read I can't tolerate for one minute that this attack was an accident.".Dean Rusk, U.S. Secretary of State at the time of the incident:."I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. Their sustained attack to disable and sink Liberty precluded an assault by accident or some trigger-happy local commander. Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous.".Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Ronald Reagan, offers another possible motive:."I have never believed that the attack on the USS Liberty was a case of mistaken identity. That is ridiculous. I have flown over the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, thousands of hours, searching for ships and identifying all types of ships at sea. The Liberty was the ugliest, strangest looking ship in the U.S. Navy. As a communications intelligence ship, it was sprouting every kind of antenna. It looked like a lobster with all those projections moving every which way. Israel knew perfectly well that the ship was American. After all, the Liberty's American flag and markings were in full view in perfect visibility for the Israeli aircraft that overflew the ship eight times over a period of nearly eight hours prior to the attack..I am confident that Israel knew the Liberty could intercept radio messages from all parties and potential parties to the ongoing war, then in its fourth day, and that Israel was preparing to seize the Golan Heights from Syria despite President Johnson's known opposition to such a move. I think they realized that if we learned in advance of their plan, there would be a tremendous amount of negotiating between Tel Aviv and Washington. And I believe Moshe Dayan concluded that he could prevent Washington from becoming aware of what Israel was up to by destroying the primary source of acquiring that information -- the USS Liberty. The result was a wanton sneak attack that left 34 American sailors dead and 171 seriously injured. What is so chilling and cold-blooded, of course, is that they could kill as many Americans as they did in confidence that Washington would cooperate in quelling any public outcry." (emphasis added)


"It was deliberate!"1. Senator / former Governor (Iowa) Bourke Hickenlooper // 2. Secretary of State Dean Rusk // 3. Joint Chiefs Chairman Admiral Thomas Moorer

Indeed, there was no "public outcry" then, and there hasn't been any significant mention of the incident since. It would have been bad enough if Sulzberger's Slimes had spun the atrocity as being "an accident." But the scum at 8th Avenue in Manhattan didn't even do that. Instead, they went a step further and ignored the murder of 34 US sailors altogether! The rest of the "mainstream media" has followed accordingly ever since..It's as if the event never even happened, and as if the survivors, who have remained active and vocal ever since, do not exist. This silence alone constitutes absolute proof that "the powers that be" (cough cough) can do anything they bloody want and get away with it. (JFK assassination (1963), the killing of 241 US Marines in Lebanon (1983), the taking down of Pan Am 103 (1988), the 9/11 attacks (2001), the fake 'ISIS" beheadings and crisis-actor stunts in Europe, and Stupid-19 just to name a few..Apart from doing justice to the dead and the survivors of the USS Liberty, this false flag event is still so important to expose because, unlike all the other false flags, it is known that Israel carried out the sustained attack in broad daylight and, most importantly, it is known that the Piranha Press ignored it. A clear understanding of these two important precedents opens the zombified mind to at least considering a different interpretation of the 9/11 horror and its subsequent, ongoing, and unfinished aftermath..Remember the USS Liberty -- an act of extreme infamy executed by the "usual suspects."

A thorough cover-to-cover search using the "Times Machines" Archives (a service made possible by our reader donations -- hint, hint), for 1967's June 9th & June 10th issues of The New York Slimes turned up NOTHING of the June 8th mass murder of 34 American sailors in International waters!-

 

[JoeB131]

The topic you changed or is it really much different?
So you're saying attacking visually marked police and ice cars is not the same as you are accussing, because Liberals are not a race you are prejudiced against?
BUSTED AGAIN!

Naw, attacking ICE cars is fine as long as they act like Jackboots.

What was Israel's excuse for bombing the Liberty?

 

[HaShev]

Naw, attacking ICE cars is fine as long as they act like Jackboots.

What was Israel's excuse for bombing the Liberty?

We told you, lack of communications like what happened to my uncle and that Chinese plane. The U S. Admited their equipment failed and their being there was wrong once warned not to be for this very reason, DOH!

 

[JoeB131]

We told you, lack of communications like what happened to my uncle and that Chinese plane. The U S. Admited their equipment failed and their being there was wrong once warned not to be for this very reason, DOH!

The Chinese plane you can't identify because they've covered it up? Or the ship that was sunk that you can't identify, either.

The Liberty was operating in broad daylight, flying American flags, and there was nothing else like her out on the water.

More like, The Israelis tried to sink her, failed, and then flipped through Jane's Fighting Ships to try to find something in the Egyptian Fleet that matched. "Oooh, oooh, this horse carrier looks kind of similar!" "But it's half the size!"