USA loses $150 billion a year through illegal immigrant remitances.

[surada]

How does the US lose it?

Here is the truth. Illegals are one of the reasons why the gap between rich and rest of us got wider.

In the past when the rich needed a carpenter or landscaper they hired a middle class American company to do the job. By hiring.illegals rich people actually save over $1 billion dollars a year. That means they are costing the middle class 1 billion dollars a year

Our extra-Constitutional immigration laws are doing that. We should be making money on foreign nationals in the US not losing money like only lousy Capitalists are wont to do.

I don't know of any country that takes the paychecks from foreign workers. Foreign workers always send money home to extended family.

Is America that impoverished?

 

[danielpalos]

How does the US lose it?

Here is the truth. Illegals are one of the reasons why the gap between rich and rest of us got wider.

In the past when the rich needed a carpenter or landscaper they hired a middle class American company to do the job. By hiring.illegals rich people actually save over $1 billion dollars a year. That means they are costing the middle class 1 billion dollars a year

Our extra-Constitutional immigration laws are doing that. We should be making money on foreign nationals in the US not losing money like only lousy Capitalists are wont to do.

I don't know of any country that takes the paychecks from foreign workers. Foreign workers always send money home to extended family.

Is America that impoverished?

Foreign workers in the US still pay local taxes while in the US.

 

[Utilitarian]

So you would keep a severely retarded baby and not late term abort it? A mongaloid?

What situation would you deny a late term abortion aside from the obvious. And do those scenarios actually happen?

I just wouldn't take it as far as NY and VA have. Late term abortions should only be allowed for severe birth defects (including your example) or when the mother's life is in danger.

Give me an example of a case you disagreed with. What is ny and va allowing?

This is a good summary of how the recent change to NY's law is problematic: Lawsuit Alleges New York Abortion Policy Harms Victims of Domestic Violence | National Review

One of the unintended consequences of the RHA would seem to be that pregnant women would not be able to charge an attacker for harm to an unborn child in the late stages of fetal development. " The RHA also decriminalized abortion, moving it from the state’s criminal code to the public-health code. This move was especially controversial among RHA opponents, as it meant the law would no longer enable the prosecution of individuals whose acts of domestic violence against a pregnant mother resulted in the loss of her unborn child. "

As for VA's law: Virginia Governor Announces Signing of Extreme Abortion Bill on Good Friday

"the measures allow non-physicians to perform abortions and roll back building safety standards in abortion clinics that are required of other outpatient facilities, restrictions Northam and Democrats say are used to force closures of abortion facilities and block access to the procedure."

It seems like a weak argument to suggest that the same requirements for other medical facilities are somehow unfair to apply to abortion clinics. Removing said requirements does not seem to be acting in the best interests of women either.

 

[sealybobo]

So you would keep a severely retarded baby and not late term abort it? A mongaloid?

What situation would you deny a late term abortion aside from the obvious. And do those scenarios actually happen?

I just wouldn't take it as far as NY and VA have. Late term abortions should only be allowed for severe birth defects (including your example) or when the mother's life is in danger.

Give me an example of a case you disagreed with. What is ny and va allowing?

This is a good summary of how the recent change to NY's law is problematic: Lawsuit Alleges New York Abortion Policy Harms Victims of Domestic Violence | National Review

One of the unintended consequences of the RHA would seem to be that pregnant women would not be able to charge an attacker for harm to an unborn child in the late stages of fetal development. " The RHA also decriminalized abortion, moving it from the state’s criminal code to the public-health code. This move was especially controversial among RHA opponents, as it meant the law would no longer enable the prosecution of individuals whose acts of domestic violence against a pregnant mother resulted in the loss of her unborn child. "

As for VA's law: Virginia Governor Announces Signing of Extreme Abortion Bill on Good Friday

"the measures allow non-physicians to perform abortions and roll back building safety standards in abortion clinics that are required of other outpatient facilities, restrictions Northam and Democrats say are used to force closures of abortion facilities and block access to the procedure."

It seems like a weak argument to suggest that the same requirements for other medical facilities are somehow unfair to apply to abortion clinics. Removing said requirements does not seem to be acting in the best interests of women either.

So basically you can’t find any situations where women are having late term abortions just for the hell of it.

Tell me a time where a woman got a late term abortion when she shouldn’t have

 

[Utilitarian]

This is a good summary of how the recent change to NY's law is problematic: Lawsuit Alleges New York Abortion Policy Harms Victims of Domestic Violence | National Review

One of the unintended consequences of the RHA would seem to be that pregnant women would not be able to charge an attacker for harm to an unborn child in the late stages of fetal development. " The RHA also decriminalized abortion, moving it from the state’s criminal code to the public-health code. This move was especially controversial among RHA opponents, as it meant the law would no longer enable the prosecution of individuals whose acts of domestic violence against a pregnant mother resulted in the loss of her unborn child. "

As for VA's law: Virginia Governor Announces Signing of Extreme Abortion Bill on Good Friday

"the measures allow non-physicians to perform abortions and roll back building safety standards in abortion clinics that are required of other outpatient facilities, restrictions Northam and Democrats say are used to force closures of abortion facilities and block access to the procedure."

It seems like a weak argument to suggest that the same requirements for other medical facilities are somehow unfair to apply to abortion clinics. Removing said requirements does not seem to be acting in the best interests of women either.

So basically you can’t find any situations where women are having late term abortions just for the hell of it.

Tell me a time where a woman got a late term abortion when she shouldn’t have

So the things I just mentioned don't concern you? Ok.

Given that abortions are a private action, they aren't exactly reported to the public. There is no study that catalogs getting an abortion "for the hell of it." That's not the nature of what data you can gather.

It is logical to assume, however, that if regulations are very loose in how "danger to the mother" is defined, that it opens the door to having a late term abortion without an actual medical reason.