ICE and dealing with illegal immigration is more important to Trump than stopping general crime in the U.S.

[Toddsterpatriot]

They should be coming down right?
Trump is getting rid of millions of illegals, right?

Rent Price Growth Still Outpacing Inflation​

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Oct 24, 2025 — Rents were up 3.5% in September, compared to the same time last year, according to the latest consumer price index report.

They should be coming down right?
Trump is getting rid of millions of illegals, right?

Right. Removing millions of illegal aliens will reduce the demand for apartments and rental homes.

Rents were up 3.5% in September

Now compare that 3.5% (and falling) increase to the much higher increases during Biden's flood of millions of new illegals.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Crime by Americans is at least twice higher than by illegal aliens. That is fact. Money should be spent more to combat general crime than for targeting illegal alien crime

Crime across the US in general is down so it is right to focus on the illegals

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

They should be coming down right?
Trump is getting rid of millions of illegals, right?

Right. Removing millions of illegal aliens will reduce the demand for apartments and rental homes.

Rents were up 3.5% in September

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Now compare that 3.5% (and falling) increase to the much higher increases during Biden's flood of millions of new illegals.

WTF?
The rents started dropping in 2022

WHY aren't prices in 2025 DROPPING Q-NUT?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

WTF?
The rents started dropping in 2022

WHY aren't prices in 2025 DROPPING Q-NUT?

Show me where rents dropped starting in 2022.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Show me where rents dropped starting in 2022.

I'll give you that......... 2023.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I'll give you that......... 2023.

Rents didn't drop in 2023.

 

[Mack The Finger]

 

[Luckyone]

Crime across the US in general is down so it is right to focus on the illegals

and yet people are not better economically, socially, health-wise and with confidence for their future. I would not call lower crime a big success, when compared to that.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

and yet people are not better economically, socially, health-wise and with confidence for their future. I would not call lower crime a big success, when compared to that.

And yet, you're a whiny moron.

 

[Soupnazi630]

and yet people are not better economically, socially, health-wise and with confidence for their future. I would not call lower crime a big success, when compared to that.

What is the thread about again?

 

[Luckyone]

What is the thread about again?

The Op is about illegal immigration but like I stated previously, since June 2024 illegal immigration was controlled and now it is a bit better but at a higher cost to things tha are important oAmerivans, meaning not better overall

 

[Soupnazi630]

The Op is about illegal immigration but like I stated previously, since June 2024 illegal immigration was controlled and now it is a bit better but at a higher cost to things tha are important oAmerivans, meaning not better overall

It is about crime and illlegals

It was bnot controlled until ICe began these raids

 

[Luckyone]

It is about crime and illlegals

It was bnot controlled until ICe began these raids

Here is something that should shock you and all the other diehard Trump supporters

Trump Immigrant Removals Now 10 Percent Below Biden’s Record​

The results are actually quite shocking. Despite deploying staff from other agencies to assist in enforcement activities and ordering active-duty military to facilitate removals at the border, daily removals have failed to reach even the levels achieved by the previous administration. Indeed, President Trump’s removal record is growing worse with time rather than improving.

As we noted in our initial report, Trump’s daily removals during the period of January 26-February 8 averaged just 693. This is 6.5 percent below the higher daily average of 742 under former President Biden. Now with an additional four weeks (28 days) added to the monitoring period, Trump’s daily removals for the period January 26 through March 8 averaged only 661 removals each day. This number is not only below its initial removal rate, but 10.9 percentage points lower than Biden’s daily average of 742 .

and as far as crime is concerned:

Crime Is Down in 2025. Trump Doesn’t Deserve Credit.​

Why Trump isn’t to thank for the crime decline​

Despite Trump’s claim that “the previous administration allowed lawlessness to permeate our country,” the crime decline long predated his second term. After three decades of mostly continuous decline, crime spiked in 2020 amid the COVID-19 pandemic. But after a narrative of out-of-control crime firmly took hold, especially during the 2022 midterms, crime rates began subsiding rapidly in 2023.

Looking at crime rates across the country and across categories of crime, it is clear that the decline in 2025 is a continuation of a downward trend that began in 2023. Trump’s public safety policies do not reflect what we know about public safety. His war on immigrants and funding terminations to evidence-based violence-prevention strategies are both more likely to make the country more dangerous than less. It is also far too early to see any changes from many of the administration’s actions related to crime—like its executive order on policing or changes in federal prosecutions.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Here is something that should shock you and all the other diehard Trump supporters

Trump Immigrant Removals Now 10 Percent Below Biden’s Record​

The results are actually quite shocking. Despite deploying staff from other agencies to assist in enforcement activities and ordering active-duty military to facilitate removals at the border, daily removals have failed to reach even the levels achieved by the previous administration. Indeed, President Trump’s removal record is growing worse with time rather than improving.

As we noted in our initial report, Trump’s daily removals during the period of January 26-February 8 averaged just 693. This is 6.5 percent below the higher daily average of 742 under former President Biden. Now with an additional four weeks (28 days) added to the monitoring period, Trump’s daily removals for the period January 26 through March 8 averaged only 661 removals each day. This number is not only below its initial removal rate, but 10.9 percentage points lower than Biden’s daily average of 742 .

and as far as crime is concerned:

Crime Is Down in 2025. Trump Doesn’t Deserve Credit.​

Why Trump isn’t to thank for the crime decline​

Despite Trump’s claim that “the previous administration allowed lawlessness to permeate our country,” the crime decline long predated his second term. After three decades of mostly continuous decline, crime spiked in 2020 amid the COVID-19 pandemic. But after a narrative of out-of-control crime firmly took hold, especially during the 2022 midterms, crime rates began subsiding rapidly in 2023.

Looking at crime rates across the country and across categories of crime, it is clear that the decline in 2025 is a continuation of a downward trend that began in 2023. Trump’s public safety policies do not reflect what we know about public safety. His war on immigrants and funding terminations to evidence-based violence-prevention strategies are both more likely to make the country more dangerous than less. It is also far too early to see any changes from many of the administration’s actions related to crime—like its executive order on policing or changes in federal prosecutions.

Opinions vary

Your bait and swtich is a failure we were discussing immigration not deportation or crime

 

[Luckyone]

Opinions vary

Your bait and swtich is a failure we were discussing immigration not deportation or crime

Read again as that is exactly what I addressed in my post

 

[Soupnazi630]

Read again as that is exactly what I addressed in my post

You did not address it at all

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Here is something that should shock you and all the other diehard Trump supporters

Trump Immigrant Removals Now 10 Percent Below Biden’s Record​

The results are actually quite shocking. Despite deploying staff from other agencies to assist in enforcement activities and ordering active-duty military to facilitate removals at the border, daily removals have failed to reach even the levels achieved by the previous administration. Indeed, President Trump’s removal record is growing worse with time rather than improving.

As we noted in our initial report, Trump’s daily removals during the period of January 26-February 8 averaged just 693. This is 6.5 percent below the higher daily average of 742 under former President Biden. Now with an additional four weeks (28 days) added to the monitoring period, Trump’s daily removals for the period January 26 through March 8 averaged only 661 removals each day. This number is not only below its initial removal rate, but 10.9 percentage points lower than Biden’s daily average of 742 .

and as far as crime is concerned:

Crime Is Down in 2025. Trump Doesn’t Deserve Credit.​

Why Trump isn’t to thank for the crime decline​

Despite Trump’s claim that “the previous administration allowed lawlessness to permeate our country,” the crime decline long predated his second term. After three decades of mostly continuous decline, crime spiked in 2020 amid the COVID-19 pandemic. But after a narrative of out-of-control crime firmly took hold, especially during the 2022 midterms, crime rates began subsiding rapidly in 2023.

Looking at crime rates across the country and across categories of crime, it is clear that the decline in 2025 is a continuation of a downward trend that began in 2023. Trump’s public safety policies do not reflect what we know about public safety. His war on immigrants and funding terminations to evidence-based violence-prevention strategies are both more likely to make the country more dangerous than less. It is also far too early to see any changes from many of the administration’s actions related to crime—like its executive order on policing or changes in federal prosecutions.

As we noted in our initial report, Trump’s daily removals during the period of January 26-February 8 averaged just 693. This is 6.5 percent below the higher daily average of 742 under former President Biden.

Biden removed 742 per day while allowing 8000 per day to enter and stay. Even flying some in.

How many is Trump allowing to enter and stay?

And why is the number Trump removed in his first few weeks in office the average we should use?

Is it because your source is a moron? Or because you are?

 

[Papageorgio]

Trump has approved more funding for illegal immigration than for combating general crime in the U.S.

AI Overview

The recent "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" passed under the second Trump administration allocates an unprecedented amount of over $170 billion to immigration enforcement and border security. This funding for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is significantly higher than previous appropriations and eclipses funding for other law enforcement and humanitarian agencies.

Comparison to Other Appropriations

The Trump administration's ICE appropriations compare in the following ways:

• Compared to other federal law enforcement: The total funding for immigration enforcement (including ICE and CBP) exceeds the combined budgets for all other federal law enforcement functions, such as the FBI. ICE alone receives more money than any other single U.S. law enforcement agency.
• Compared to previous ICE budgets: The bill more than triples ICE's annual budget. ICE's annual funding increases from approximately $10.4 billion to an estimated $29.9 billion or more annually. The funding for detention operations has increased more than 400% since FY2019, with plans to expand capacity from around 41,500 people daily to at least 100,000.
• Compared to state and local police spending: The total $170 billion for immigration enforcement over four years is more than the annual expenditures on police by state and local governments across all 50 states and D.C. combined.
• Compared to military budgets: The total amount appropriated for immigration enforcement is larger than the annual military budget of almost every country in the world, except for the United States and China.
• Compared to humanitarian/adjudication systems: The massive increase in enforcement funding significantly outpaces funding for humanitarian protection and immigration courts. For example, the amount allocated to immigration detention is nearly three times more than the entire adjudication system for removal and asylum claims, contributing to massive case backlogs. The bill also caps the number of immigration judges while mandating the hiring of thousands of new ICE and CBP agents.
• Compared to labor enforcement: The funding for immigration enforcement is reportedly 80 times higher than that for labor standards enforcement.

This funding is intended to support an unprecedented mass deportation campaign, expand the border wall, and drastically increase the capacity of the immigrant detention system.

The problem with the above is the following:

AI Overview

Studies consistently indicate that U.S.-born citizens have a higher crime rate than undocumented immigrants. Undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates across a range of felony offenses compared to native-born citizens.

Explanation

• Lower Crime Rates for Undocumented Immigrants: Multiple studies, particularly those using extensive data from the Texas Department of Public Safety (one of the few states that logs immigration status), found that undocumented immigrants commit crimes at a significantly lower rate than native-born Americans.
• Specific Crime Comparisons: Relative to undocumented immigrants, U.S.-born citizens are:
  • Over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes.
  • 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes.
  • Over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes.

Why is this happening? Isn't controlling all crime what our government should be funding, rather than just illegal immigration crime?

I guess it is all about Trump trying to make a statement that feeds his voters, rather than making a statement that he is fighting crime. He talks big but his stick is small.

Every person that is here, is here illegally, so illegal immigrants have 100% crime rate. You are just being stupid and the crime rate in the United States is down from 2024.

Also can you site the links on where your AI gets its info, if not, we will all know that you are once again lying and dishonest. So will you or won’t you?

 

[Correll]

I am so happy you enjoy being a puppet to a puppet

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That post made you look like a fool.

 

[Papageorgio]

From the OP itself

The Trump administration's ICE appropriations compare in the following ways:

• Compared to other federal law enforcement: The total funding for immigration enforcement (including ICE and CBP) exceeds the combined budgets for all other federal law enforcement functions, such as the FBI. ICE alone receives more money than any other single U.S. law enforcement agency.

Got a link?