Only the most uninformed Americans feel undocumented workers are not of value to USA citizens

[MostBoringManInTheWorld]

Their crime of being here is a federal misdemeanor by act of congress. I should not jaywalk or piss on the sidewalk downtown. You have done misdemeanors also, but nobody would dare send 3,000 masked, unmarked uniform storm trooper, in unmarked cars on violent raids, chasing you and me down.
Think of it like this. President Barrack Obama deported many more than Trump, something like 3 million to Trump's 1.2 million. Yet, no storm troopers, no large publicized multi thousand troop deployments to cities Democrat run nor Republican, and no major blowback from the public over brutal deportation tactics. No specifically sticking it to and city, or state due to how that state voted in the election. He as the president easily leading the largest numbers of deportations, never had a month with two Americans either executed or recklessly man slaughtered in a single month, but he was getting the aliens out, steadily.
Whether you like him or not, in general, Which way is better?

That obviously depends on the race and ethnicity of the one doing the way.

 

[White 6]

That obviously depends on the race and ethnicity of the one doing the way.

Nope. Efficiencies attained are efficiencies attained. Unless part of the goal is to stick it to minorities and other political party. If that is what is wanted, I got nothing for ya.

 

[sparky]

The prostitution of labor is nothing new in the USofA

even the most uniformed get that

~S~

 

[Rogue AI]

Quit moving the goal post. We are talking about immigration and then numbers and methods of Obama and Trump are the numbers and methods of Obama and Trump.
Nobody has praise Biden immigration policies ever, that I am aware of.

Bottom line is majority of Americans to not approve the way trump is going about getting the illegal out. I personnally favor the lower key but obviously better numbers under the Obama administration, as being more than twice Trump's in 5 years, but with far less pushback on removal. I have always had the conservative philosophy of using the least force necessary to get the same or better result with less damage or chaos is the path to be taken.

What you fail to mention is Obama's ICE did not contend with sanctuary cities. ICE picked up the vast majority in jails and prisons. Rarely venturing into neighborhoods. The only place Trump faces difficulty is the very sanctuary cities Obama didn't deal with. End sanctuary policies and you will have the quiet and peaceful immigration enforcement you desire.

 

[fncceo]

They are doing the same ting today. They are working menial jobs at low wages.

Maybe the last century… now they’re all on welfare and running “learing centers”.

 

[Eman623]

Only the most uninformed Americans feel undocumented workers are not of value to USA citizens. Sure, there are bad actors that are undocumented but only the most stupid among us, paint them all with the same brush.

Undocumented workers pay a lot in taxes, even though most can’t receive major federal benefits like Social Security retirement or Medicare:
In 2022, undocumented immigrants paid nearly $97 billion in federal, state, and local taxes.

• They also contribute billions annually to Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes — but because they lack legal status, they generally cannot collect benefits.
• In specific states like Washington, undocumented immigrants were responsible for around $3 billion in taxes, supporting public services like schools, roads, and emergency services.

What this means: U.S. citizens benefit from these tax revenues because they help fund public infrastructure, education, health programs, and local services that everyone uses.

Undocumented immigrants make up a significant share of the workforce in key sectors:
They represent a large part of labor in agriculture, maintenance, construction, food preparation, and other industries — jobs that many U.S. citizens are less likely to fill.
It keeps prices lower for consumers on food and services.

• It keeps industries running (especially agriculture and hospitality) that would otherwise face labor shortages.

Undocumented immigrants are also consumers who spend money on goods and services:
Their spending—on housing, transportation, food, utilities, etc.—supports U.S. businesses and jobs for citizens and other residents.

• Research estimates they pay $79.7 billion in federal taxes and $41 billion in state and local taxes annually, and also contribute significantly to mortgage and rental markets through housing costs.

Economists have found that:
Providing legal status and a pathway to citizenship could boost U.S. GDP by hundreds of billions over a decade and create new jobs — which benefits workers of all statuses, including citizens.

• Immigrants (including undocumented workers) contribute to labor force growth, which is crucial for an aging U.S. population and declining birth rates.

Studies with historical evidence also show that when undocumented workers gain legal status, their earnings rise — which boosts tax contributions and consumer spending further.

Research also shows social and community benefits associated with immigrant populations:
Policies that allow immigrants to integrate (e.g., driver's licenses) can improve public safety and civic participation.

• Immigrant families contribute to community life, including schools, faith communities, and local organizations.

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Here are the main ways undocumented immigrants have been shown to help U.S. citizens and communities:
They pay substantial taxes that fund public services used by citizens and residents.
They fill essential jobs in key sectors, supporting industries and keeping prices stable.
Their consumer spending fuels economic growth.
They contribute to long-term economic growth and labor force expansion.
Their integration into communities strengthens social life and local economies.

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www.forbes.com

Why Immigration Relief Matters

Undocumented immigrants make significant economic contributions and are integral members of communities across the United States; immigration relief is necessary to continue growing the economy and strengthening communities nationwide, especially amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

www.americanprogress.org

Illegals are a net negative to the country. Legal immigrants are a net plus.

 

[Rogue AI]

You do know Trump said he wants housing prices to go up.

Also while removing the corporate ownership of single family homes, which drives up prices and lowering interest rates to help qualified mortgage applicants. Removing millions of illegals will bring prices further down without causing a crash. There is no easy solution to the problems we face, so much of it brought about by the Biden disaster.

 

[Harry Dresden]

wow elmer you got your ass kicked in that one...

 

[Cellblock2429]

Only the most uninformed Americans feel undocumented workers are not of value to USA citizens. Sure, there are bad actors that are undocumented but only the most stupid among us, paint them all with the same brush.

Undocumented workers pay a lot in taxes, even though most can’t receive major federal benefits like Social Security retirement or Medicare:
In 2022, undocumented immigrants paid nearly $97 billion in federal, state, and local taxes.

• They also contribute billions annually to Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes — but because they lack legal status, they generally cannot collect benefits.
• In specific states like Washington, undocumented immigrants were responsible for around $3 billion in taxes, supporting public services like schools, roads, and emergency services.

What this means: U.S. citizens benefit from these tax revenues because they help fund public infrastructure, education, health programs, and local services that everyone uses.

Undocumented immigrants make up a significant share of the workforce in key sectors:
They represent a large part of labor in agriculture, maintenance, construction, food preparation, and other industries — jobs that many U.S. citizens are less likely to fill.
It keeps prices lower for consumers on food and services.

• It keeps industries running (especially agriculture and hospitality) that would otherwise face labor shortages.

Undocumented immigrants are also consumers who spend money on goods and services:
Their spending—on housing, transportation, food, utilities, etc.—supports U.S. businesses and jobs for citizens and other residents.

• Research estimates they pay $79.7 billion in federal taxes and $41 billion in state and local taxes annually, and also contribute significantly to mortgage and rental markets through housing costs.

Economists have found that:
Providing legal status and a pathway to citizenship could boost U.S. GDP by hundreds of billions over a decade and create new jobs — which benefits workers of all statuses, including citizens.

• Immigrants (including undocumented workers) contribute to labor force growth, which is crucial for an aging U.S. population and declining birth rates.

Studies with historical evidence also show that when undocumented workers gain legal status, their earnings rise — which boosts tax contributions and consumer spending further.

Research also shows social and community benefits associated with immigrant populations:
Policies that allow immigrants to integrate (e.g., driver's licenses) can improve public safety and civic participation.

• Immigrant families contribute to community life, including schools, faith communities, and local organizations.

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Here are the main ways undocumented immigrants have been shown to help U.S. citizens and communities:
They pay substantial taxes that fund public services used by citizens and residents.
They fill essential jobs in key sectors, supporting industries and keeping prices stable.
Their consumer spending fuels economic growth.
They contribute to long-term economic growth and labor force expansion.
Their integration into communities strengthens social life and local economies.

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www.forbes.com

Why Immigration Relief Matters

Undocumented immigrants make significant economic contributions and are integral members of communities across the United States; immigration relief is necessary to continue growing the economy and strengthening communities nationwide, especially amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

www.americanprogress.org

/----/ democRATs latest excuse to keep their slave labor.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

the racist and corrupt Democrat Party cannot survive without illegal immigration

 

[Dekster]

Only the most uninformed Americans feel undocumented workers are not of value to USA citizens. Sure, there are bad actors that are undocumented but only the most stupid among us, paint them all with the same brush.

Undocumented workers pay a lot in taxes, even though most can’t receive major federal benefits like Social Security retirement or Medicare:
In 2022, undocumented immigrants paid nearly $97 billion in federal, state, and local taxes.

• They also contribute billions annually to Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes — but because they lack legal status, they generally cannot collect benefits.
• In specific states like Washington, undocumented immigrants were responsible for around $3 billion in taxes, supporting public services like schools, roads, and emergency services.

What this means: U.S. citizens benefit from these tax revenues because they help fund public infrastructure, education, health programs, and local services that everyone uses.

Undocumented immigrants make up a significant share of the workforce in key sectors:
They represent a large part of labor in agriculture, maintenance, construction, food preparation, and other industries — jobs that many U.S. citizens are less likely to fill.
It keeps prices lower for consumers on food and services.

• It keeps industries running (especially agriculture and hospitality) that would otherwise face labor shortages.

Undocumented immigrants are also consumers who spend money on goods and services:
Their spending—on housing, transportation, food, utilities, etc.—supports U.S. businesses and jobs for citizens and other residents.

• Research estimates they pay $79.7 billion in federal taxes and $41 billion in state and local taxes annually, and also contribute significantly to mortgage and rental markets through housing costs.

Economists have found that:
Providing legal status and a pathway to citizenship could boost U.S. GDP by hundreds of billions over a decade and create new jobs — which benefits workers of all statuses, including citizens.

• Immigrants (including undocumented workers) contribute to labor force growth, which is crucial for an aging U.S. population and declining birth rates.

Studies with historical evidence also show that when undocumented workers gain legal status, their earnings rise — which boosts tax contributions and consumer spending further.

Research also shows social and community benefits associated with immigrant populations:
Policies that allow immigrants to integrate (e.g., driver's licenses) can improve public safety and civic participation.

• Immigrant families contribute to community life, including schools, faith communities, and local organizations.

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Here are the main ways undocumented immigrants have been shown to help U.S. citizens and communities:
They pay substantial taxes that fund public services used by citizens and residents.
They fill essential jobs in key sectors, supporting industries and keeping prices stable.
Their consumer spending fuels economic growth.
They contribute to long-term economic growth and labor force expansion.
Their integration into communities strengthens social life and local economies.

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www.forbes.com

Why Immigration Relief Matters

Undocumented immigrants make significant economic contributions and are integral members of communities across the United States; immigration relief is necessary to continue growing the economy and strengthening communities nationwide, especially amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

www.americanprogress.org

I support legal immigration and oppose illegal immigration. I don't care what the legal immigration looks like so much as I want those workers to enjoy the full benefits of protections american workers have, including and especially disability benefits should they suffer a catastrophic work-related injury. That is the whole issue in a nutshell for me.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Many criminal invaders work using stolen identities. The victim finds out when their credit is destroyed or the IRS audits demanding proof of the five children phony tax returns say you have.

Round them up and throw them out. Make reentry a capital crime.

 

[Hafar1014]

Only the most uninformed Americans feel undocumented workers are not of value to USA citizens. Sure, there are bad actors that are undocumented but only the most stupid among us, paint them all with the same brush.

Undocumented workers pay a lot in taxes, even though most can’t receive major federal benefits like Social Security retirement or Medicare:
In 2022, undocumented immigrants paid nearly $97 billion in federal, state, and local taxes.

• They also contribute billions annually to Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes — but because they lack legal status, they generally cannot collect benefits.
• In specific states like Washington, undocumented immigrants were responsible for around $3 billion in taxes, supporting public services like schools, roads, and emergency services.

What this means: U.S. citizens benefit from these tax revenues because they help fund public infrastructure, education, health programs, and local services that everyone uses.

Undocumented immigrants make up a significant share of the workforce in key sectors:
They represent a large part of labor in agriculture, maintenance, construction, food preparation, and other industries — jobs that many U.S. citizens are less likely to fill.
It keeps prices lower for consumers on food and services.

• It keeps industries running (especially agriculture and hospitality) that would otherwise face labor shortages.

Undocumented immigrants are also consumers who spend money on goods and services:
Their spending—on housing, transportation, food, utilities, etc.—supports U.S. businesses and jobs for citizens and other residents.

• Research estimates they pay $79.7 billion in federal taxes and $41 billion in state and local taxes annually, and also contribute significantly to mortgage and rental markets through housing costs.

Economists have found that:
Providing legal status and a pathway to citizenship could boost U.S. GDP by hundreds of billions over a decade and create new jobs — which benefits workers of all statuses, including citizens.

• Immigrants (including undocumented workers) contribute to labor force growth, which is crucial for an aging U.S. population and declining birth rates.

Studies with historical evidence also show that when undocumented workers gain legal status, their earnings rise — which boosts tax contributions and consumer spending further.

Research also shows social and community benefits associated with immigrant populations:
Policies that allow immigrants to integrate (e.g., driver's licenses) can improve public safety and civic participation.

• Immigrant families contribute to community life, including schools, faith communities, and local organizations.

---

​

Here are the main ways undocumented immigrants have been shown to help U.S. citizens and communities:
They pay substantial taxes that fund public services used by citizens and residents.
They fill essential jobs in key sectors, supporting industries and keeping prices stable.
Their consumer spending fuels economic growth.
They contribute to long-term economic growth and labor force expansion.
Their integration into communities strengthens social life and local economies.

Loading…

www.forbes.com

Why Immigration Relief Matters

Undocumented immigrants make significant economic contributions and are integral members of communities across the United States; immigration relief is necessary to continue growing the economy and strengthening communities nationwide, especially amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

www.americanprogress.org

100% BS. They cost us over 100 billion a year, lower wgares increase rents and are in prison 5 times ore than citizens. They also destroy American culture. They steal money form welfare programs with the help of democrats.
SIce we deported 3 million wages went up rents went down and we had the lowest homicide rate in decades. They create misery for the families of their victims
Criminal acts—actions punishable by law—span violent offenses like murder, rape, and assault; property crimes such as theft, burglary, and arson; financial frauds; drug trafficking; cybercrime; and human trafficking. They range from local misdemeanors to serious federal offenses, including racketeering, terrorism, and corruption.
Here is a breakdown of common types of illegal crimes and offenses:

1. Violent Crimes
These involve force or threat of force against a person.

• Murder and Nonnegligent Manslaughter
• Forcible Rape and Sexual Assault
• Robbery (taking by force)
• Aggravated Assault and Battery
• Kidnapping
• Domestic Violence

2. Property Crimes
These involve theft or destruction of property without force against a person.

• Burglary (breaking and entering)
• Larceny-Theft and Shoplifting
• Motor Vehicle Theft
• Arson
• Vandalism/Destruction of Property

3. Financial & White-Collar Crimes
Non-violent crimes committed for financial gain.

• Fraud (credit card, bank, identity theft)
• Money Laundering
• Tax Evasion
• Counterfeiting
• Public Corruption

4. Drug & Organized Crimes

• Drug Possession, Trafficking, and Production
• Racketeering (RICO violations)
• Illegal Gambling Businesses

5. Cyber & Federal Crimes

• Computer Crimes and Internet Fraud
• Child Pornography Possession/Selling
• Espionage and Terrorism
• Immigration Offenses and Smuggling

Criminal Alien Statistics

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

 

[Woodznutz]

Only the most uninformed Americans feel undocumented workers are not of value to USA citizens. Sure, there are bad actors that are undocumented but only the most stupid among us, paint them all with the same brush.

Undocumented workers pay a lot in taxes, even though most can’t receive major federal benefits like Social Security retirement or Medicare:
In 2022, undocumented immigrants paid nearly $97 billion in federal, state, and local taxes.

• They also contribute billions annually to Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes — but because they lack legal status, they generally cannot collect benefits.
• In specific states like Washington, undocumented immigrants were responsible for around $3 billion in taxes, supporting public services like schools, roads, and emergency services.

What this means: U.S. citizens benefit from these tax revenues because they help fund public infrastructure, education, health programs, and local services that everyone uses.

Undocumented immigrants make up a significant share of the workforce in key sectors:
They represent a large part of labor in agriculture, maintenance, construction, food preparation, and other industries — jobs that many U.S. citizens are less likely to fill.
It keeps prices lower for consumers on food and services.

• It keeps industries running (especially agriculture and hospitality) that would otherwise face labor shortages.

Undocumented immigrants are also consumers who spend money on goods and services:
Their spending—on housing, transportation, food, utilities, etc.—supports U.S. businesses and jobs for citizens and other residents.

• Research estimates they pay $79.7 billion in federal taxes and $41 billion in state and local taxes annually, and also contribute significantly to mortgage and rental markets through housing costs.

Economists have found that:
Providing legal status and a pathway to citizenship could boost U.S. GDP by hundreds of billions over a decade and create new jobs — which benefits workers of all statuses, including citizens.

• Immigrants (including undocumented workers) contribute to labor force growth, which is crucial for an aging U.S. population and declining birth rates.

Studies with historical evidence also show that when undocumented workers gain legal status, their earnings rise — which boosts tax contributions and consumer spending further.

Research also shows social and community benefits associated with immigrant populations:
Policies that allow immigrants to integrate (e.g., driver's licenses) can improve public safety and civic participation.

• Immigrant families contribute to community life, including schools, faith communities, and local organizations.

---

​

Here are the main ways undocumented immigrants have been shown to help U.S. citizens and communities:
They pay substantial taxes that fund public services used by citizens and residents.
They fill essential jobs in key sectors, supporting industries and keeping prices stable.
Their consumer spending fuels economic growth.
They contribute to long-term economic growth and labor force expansion.
Their integration into communities strengthens social life and local economies.

Loading…

www.forbes.com

Why Immigration Relief Matters

Undocumented immigrants make significant economic contributions and are integral members of communities across the United States; immigration relief is necessary to continue growing the economy and strengthening communities nationwide, especially amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

www.americanprogress.org

We're still better off without them.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Quit moving the goal post. We are talking about immigration and then numbers and methods of Obama and Trump are the numbers and methods of Obama and Trump.
Nobody has praise Biden immigration policies ever, that I am aware of.

Bottom line is majority of Americans to not approve the way trump is going about getting the illegal out. I personnally favor the lower key but obviously better numbers under the Obama administration, as being more than twice Trump's in 5 years, but with far less pushback on removal. I have always had the conservative philosophy of using the least force necessary to get the same or better result with less damage or chaos is the path to be taken.

I personnally favor the lower key but obviously better numbers under the Obama administration, as being more than twice Trump's in 5 years,

You know Obama's numbers are fake, don't you?

 

[White 6]

I personnally favor the lower key but obviously better numbers under the Obama administration, as being more than twice Trump's in 5 years,

You know Obama's numbers are fake, don't you?

You have different number? Post your link and will be glad to compare.

 

[leftwinger]

They are doing the same ting today. They are working menial jobs at low wages.

Some. As we pay Black street vermin to roam around committing crimes and breeding more.

Time for them to take those jobs. White drugged too.

 

[Hafar1014]

We're still better off without them.

Few pay taxes thet work under the table for cash

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You have different number? Post your link and will be glad to compare.

How many do you think Obama deported?

 

[White 6]

How many do you think Obama deported?

I have no idea, how many he reported. Here is what an internet search reports.
Barack Obama's administration deported over 3.1 million people during his eight years in office, while Donald Trump's administration deported approximately 1.2 million people during his first term. This shows that Obama deported significantly more individuals than Trump.

factchequeado.com elpasomatters.org

Over Obama’s two terms in office, 5.3 million immigrants in total were deported or repatriated from the U.S.

Donald Trump's deportation record compared to Barack Obama's

As protests continue over immigration enforcement operations, comparisons have been made with the "Deporter in Chief."

www.newsweek.com

What have you got?