and the most educated stood against him Elmer........~S~
Only the most uninformed Americans feel undocumented workers are not of value to USA citizens
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EvilCat Breath
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All those illiterates protesting and screaming in the streets voted for Trump? Who knew. Everyone I know that voted Trump has at least one college degree. But in real subjects.
Toddsterpatriot
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What should happen to USA citizens who take the jobs is they are paid more; a living wage. When that happens we all pay more.
Including all low wage earners.
But
1. Current data doesn’t show clear wage increases tied directly to deportations
- Recent Federal Reserve research shows that real wage growth for low-wage workers slowed significantly in 2025, even as immigration rates changed. That means wages for the bottom 25% grew less than before — not more — over this period, indicating other economic forces (like weak labor demand and inflation) are more important than minor shifts in immigration status on wage trends.
Immigration can’t explain declining employment growth | Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis
Broadly slowing labor market is a major factor in falling jobs numberswww.minneapolisfed.org
What should happen to USA citizens who take the jobs is they are paid more; a living wage. When that happens we all pay more. Including all low wage earners.
Yes, more Americans will be employed at higher wages.
Deport more illegal aliens. NOW!!!
leftwinger
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Tell it to all the girls raped and burnt alive or sunk in a lake you dumb
subway pushers sucker punches on and on.The way illegals were let in under Joe proved that you are communist traitors. All your politicians with their crocodile tears and false hubris. The point is illegals are needed. It is just how many. Sending them here for votes is vile and despicable. You are the most unhappy people on the planet. You waste resources like resources are wasted in nations where illegals come from. Only we have more as a cushion. We found out during Joe that abusing the fiat currency has some limits after 50 years of it.
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Worse yet they send nearly a $Trillion out of the economy in remittances.
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All that is beside the point that they shouldn't be here.Only the most uninformed Americans feel undocumented workers are not of value to USA citizens. Sure, there are bad actors that are undocumented but only the most stupid among us, paint them all with the same brush.
Undocumented workers pay a lot in taxes, even though most can’t receive major federal benefits like Social Security retirement or Medicare:
In 2022, undocumented immigrants paid nearly $97 billion in federal, state, and local taxes.
- They also contribute billions annually to Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes — but because they lack legal status, they generally cannot collect benefits.
- In specific states like Washington, undocumented immigrants were responsible for around $3 billion in taxes, supporting public services like schools, roads, and emergency services.
What this means: U.S. citizens benefit from these tax revenues because they help fund public infrastructure, education, health programs, and local services that everyone uses.
Undocumented immigrants make up a significant share of the workforce in key sectors:
They represent a large part of labor in agriculture, maintenance, construction, food preparation, and other industries — jobs that many U.S. citizens are less likely to fill.
It keeps prices lower for consumers on food and services.
Undocumented immigrants are also consumers who spend money on goods and services:
- It keeps industries running (especially agriculture and hospitality) that would otherwise face labor shortages.
Their spending—on housing, transportation, food, utilities, etc.—supports U.S. businesses and jobs for citizens and other residents.
- Research estimates they pay $79.7 billion in federal taxes and $41 billion in state and local taxes annually, and also contribute significantly to mortgage and rental markets through housing costs.
Economists have found that:
Providing legal status and a pathway to citizenship could boost U.S. GDP by hundreds of billions over a decade and create new jobs — which benefits workers of all statuses, including citizens.
- Immigrants (including undocumented workers) contribute to labor force growth, which is crucial for an aging U.S. population and declining birth rates.
Studies with historical evidence also show that when undocumented workers gain legal status, their earnings rise — which boosts tax contributions and consumer spending further.
Research also shows social and community benefits associated with immigrant populations:
Policies that allow immigrants to integrate (e.g., driver's licenses) can improve public safety and civic participation.
- Immigrant families contribute to community life, including schools, faith communities, and local organizations.
Here are the main ways undocumented immigrants have been shown to help U.S. citizens and communities:
They pay substantial taxes that fund public services used by citizens and residents.
They fill essential jobs in key sectors, supporting industries and keeping prices stable.
Why Immigration Relief Matters
Undocumented immigrants make significant economic contributions and are integral members of communities across the United States; immigration relief is necessary to continue growing the economy and strengthening communities nationwide, especially amid the COVID-19 pandemic.www.americanprogress.org
/—/ They take more than they pay. AND THEY DONT BELONG HERE.Only the most uninformed Americans feel undocumented workers are not of value to USA citizens. Sure, there are bad actors that are undocumented but only the most stupid among us, paint them all with the same brush.
Undocumented workers pay a lot in taxes, even though most can’t receive major federal benefits like Social Security retirement or Medicare:
In 2022, undocumented immigrants paid nearly $97 billion in federal, state, and local taxes.
- They also contribute billions annually to Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes — but because they lack legal status, they generally cannot collect benefits.
- In specific states like Washington, undocumented immigrants were responsible for around $3 billion in taxes, supporting public services like schools, roads, and emergency services.
What this means: U.S. citizens benefit from these tax revenues because they help fund public infrastructure, education, health programs, and local services that everyone uses.
Undocumented immigrants make up a significant share of the workforce in key sectors:
They represent a large part of labor in agriculture, maintenance, construction, food preparation, and other industries — jobs that many U.S. citizens are less likely to fill.
It keeps prices lower for consumers on food and services.
Undocumented immigrants are also consumers who spend money on goods and services:
- It keeps industries running (especially agriculture and hospitality) that would otherwise face labor shortages.
Their spending—on housing, transportation, food, utilities, etc.—supports U.S. businesses and jobs for citizens and other residents.
- Research estimates they pay $79.7 billion in federal taxes and $41 billion in state and local taxes annually, and also contribute significantly to mortgage and rental markets through housing costs.
Economists have found that:
Providing legal status and a pathway to citizenship could boost U.S. GDP by hundreds of billions over a decade and create new jobs — which benefits workers of all statuses, including citizens.
- Immigrants (including undocumented workers) contribute to labor force growth, which is crucial for an aging U.S. population and declining birth rates.
Studies with historical evidence also show that when undocumented workers gain legal status, their earnings rise — which boosts tax contributions and consumer spending further.
Research also shows social and community benefits associated with immigrant populations:
Policies that allow immigrants to integrate (e.g., driver's licenses) can improve public safety and civic participation.
- Immigrant families contribute to community life, including schools, faith communities, and local organizations.
Here are the main ways undocumented immigrants have been shown to help U.S. citizens and communities:
They pay substantial taxes that fund public services used by citizens and residents.
Why Immigration Relief Matters
Undocumented immigrants make significant economic contributions and are integral members of communities across the United States; immigration relief is necessary to continue growing the economy and strengthening communities nationwide, especially amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
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