U.S. ambassador says Canada must move on trade talks — on Donald Trump’s terms

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Canada was warned, as the apparatuses destroy good, patriot Canadians through their false flags, abuse, corruption and dishonesty.

I am just the Messenger.


OTTAWA—U.S. Ambassador Pete Hoekstra suggested Thursday the cross-border trade dispute that is roiling the relationship is up to Canada to resolve, but on President Donald Trump’s terms.

Canada must make its best pitch to the U.S. president about how it can help Trump’s economic agenda, Hoekstra said, saying while Canada doesn’t like tariffs, they are a critically important part of Trump’s geopolitical effort to combat globally what the U.S. president sees as “unfair competition.”
“Make us an offer,” said Hoekstra.

Referring to on-again, off-again negotiations over tariffs and the possible renewal of the Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement on free trade, Hoekstra said, “We’re waiting for Canada to respond, but once Canada clearly outlines its direction and what it wants from the negotiations, I think that we can do some great things together.”

It’s unclear what the ambassador means about Canada’s unclear direction, after Ottawa formally gave notice last week of its desire to renew the Canada-U.S.-Mexico free trade deal for another 16 years, its desire to remove steel, aluminum, and auto tariffs, its presentation of “specific proposals” to Trump’s trade team of how to break the trade talks logjam, and recent policy announcements to address certain trade irritants the U.S. identified.
 
Just wait 2 years.....you guys will be able to go back to doing what you do best; making us round ham and exporting the occassional hockey player.
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Canada wasn't warned about anything. Your country doesn't have to do anything accoding to Trumps terms. Trump is going to mess around and Canada is going to cut off electricity for most of the NE U.S.
 
Canada wasn't warned about anything. Your country doesn't have to do anything accoding to Trumps terms. Trump is going to mess around and Canada is going to cut off electricity for most of the NE U.S.
So you are supportive of Canada cutting electricity off to Americans? Would you laugh as our Premier would after he cut it off?

How should or would America respond if we did this?
 
So you are supportive of Canada cutting electricity off to Americans? Would you laugh as our Premier would after he cut it off?

How should or would America respond if we did this?
You really need to stop with your dumb right-wing BS. You've been getting the benefits from the socialism you tell us to hate. You live benefiting from things you tell us to despise. You want us to fight everybody, send our kids off to die, while you sit up there reaping the government handouts. You don't pay one red cent in American taxes, but you want us to spend our tax money to protect you from China. If Canada decides to cut off our electricity, it would be due to Trump's behavior. So ask Trump if he is supportive of Canada cutting off electricity to Americans, because his behavior is what would make that happen.
 
Canada wasn't warned about anything. Your country doesn't have to do anything accoding to Trumps terms. Trump is going to mess around and Canada is going to cut off electricity for most of the NE U.S.
Then other plants will step in or get built and Canada will lose these customers FOREVER
 
You really need to stop with your dumb right-wing BS. You've been getting the benefits from the socialism you tell us to hate. You live benefiting from things you tell us to despise. You want us to fight everybody, send our kids off to die, while you sit up there reaping the government handouts. You don't pay one red cent in American taxes, but you want us to spend our tax money to protect you from China. If Canada decides to cut off our electricity, it would be due to Trump's behavior. So ask Trump if he is supportive of Canada cutting off electricity to Americans, because his behavior is what would make that happen.
You do realize that the Premier who said he would cut off your electricity with a smile is a conversative, or so he identifies.

Maybe you and I should trade citizenships so you can experience socialism and all the persecution and career interference that comes with it.
 
Canada wasn't warned about anything. Your country doesn't have to do anything accoding to Trumps terms. Trump is going to mess around and Canada is going to cut off electricity for most of the NE U.S.
In your dreams, sadly.
 
Canada was warned, as the apparatuses destroy good, patriot Canadians through their false flags, abuse, corruption and dishonesty.

I am just the Messenger.


OTTAWA—U.S. Ambassador Pete Hoekstra suggested Thursday the cross-border trade dispute that is roiling the relationship is up to Canada to resolve, but on President Donald Trump’s terms.

Canada must make its best pitch to the U.S. president about how it can help Trump’s economic agenda, Hoekstra said, saying while Canada doesn’t like tariffs, they are a critically important part of Trump’s geopolitical effort to combat globally what the U.S. president sees as “unfair competition.”
“Make us an offer,” said Hoekstra.

Referring to on-again, off-again negotiations over tariffs and the possible renewal of the Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement on free trade, Hoekstra said, “We’re waiting for Canada to respond, but once Canada clearly outlines its direction and what it wants from the negotiations, I think that we can do some great things together.”

It’s unclear what the ambassador means about Canada’s unclear direction, after Ottawa formally gave notice last week of its desire to renew the Canada-U.S.-Mexico free trade deal for another 16 years, its desire to remove steel, aluminum, and auto tariffs, its presentation of “specific proposals” to Trump’s trade team of how to break the trade talks logjam, and recent policy announcements to address certain trade irritants the U.S. identified.
You're the "Canada must be a slave to the US" messenger.
 
I am the "I want free markets, liberty, competition, accountable and transparent government" Messenger.

Nah. You're the "America is better than Canada" person. You come on here and say "oh, this is like this in Canada, so America is better", and yet the US has similar problems.
 
Nah. You're the "America is better than Canada" person. You come on here and say "oh, this is like this in Canada, so America is better", and yet the US has similar problems.
Yes, America has similar problems.

The difference is you also have institutions, organizations and individuals who provide solutions. That is why a Constitutional Republic is very different from a Monarchy.
 
Yes, America has similar problems.

The difference is you also have institutions, organizations and individuals who provide solutions. That is why a Constitutional Republic is very different from a Monarchy.
Do you?

Canada is a Constitutional Republic in all but name.

The King has no influence in Canada. People elect their representatives in a piss poor electoral system the same as the US. Maybe it's a slightly better electoral system. There are five political parties, though it is still a two party system. Slightly better. Still not good.

I don't see solutions in the US, I see the rich controlling everything and doing whatever they want. Canada isn't much better, but it's not worse.
 
Do you?

Canada is a Constitutional Republic in all but name.

The King has no influence in Canada. People elect their representatives in a piss poor electoral system the same as the US. Maybe it's a slightly better electoral system. There are five political parties, though it is still a two party system. Slightly better. Still not good.

I don't see solutions in the US, I see the rich controlling everything and doing whatever they want. Canada isn't much better, but it's not worse.
The fact that you believe Canada is a Republic in how it is governed or even how citizens are "processed" illustrates just how naive and ignorant Americans are to Canada.

We are not classy or transparent enough to be European, not free or committed to civil liberties enough to be American. We are essentially just trying to maintain some semblance of our old caste roots in a world that happily exploits the fact that the least impressive maintain their class and position while the most effective and driven are disposed of if born in the wrong class.

Trump and his administration is simply returning the favour as they know that only a few of our best talented still remain in Canada, others are oppressed to the point of not being able to contribute.
 
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The fact that you believe Canada is a Republic in how it is governed or even how citizens are "processed" illustrates just how naive and ignorant Americans are to Canada.

We are not classy or transparent enough to be European, not free or committed to civil liberties enough to be American. We are essentially just trying to maintain some semblance of our old caste roots in a world that happily exploits the fact that the least impressive maintain their class and position while the most effective and driven are disposed of if born in the wrong class.

Trump and his administration is simply returning the favour as they know that only a few of our best talented still remain in Canada, others are oppressed to the point of not being able to contribute.
What is a Republic?


"A republic, based on the Latin phrase res publica ('public thing' or 'people's thing'), is a state in which political power rests with the public (people), typically through their representatives—in contrast to a monarchy."

Does the power rest with the people? To a certain extent yes. The same as the US. Though it's not ALL THE PEOPLE, it's some of the people, the rich.

So, it's partly a Republic.

Canada has a monarch, so it's officially a monarchy. But how much influence does Charles have in Canada? About 0%, maybe -0.1%.
 
What is a Republic?


"A republic, based on the Latin phrase res publica ('public thing' or 'people's thing'), is a state in which political power rests with the public (people), typically through their representatives—in contrast to a monarchy."

Does the power rest with the people? To a certain extent yes. The same as the US. Though it's not ALL THE PEOPLE, it's some of the people, the rich.

So, it's partly a Republic.

Canada has a monarch, so it's officially a monarchy. But how much influence does Charles have in Canada? About 0%, maybe -0.1%.
Well our PM visited Charles early on post- electioin. All of the U.K, Australia, New Zealand and Canada are coincidentally pushing into law age restrcitions requirements to use social media. All nations on cue promoted the same narrative to convince citizens of some arbitrary value. Will digital I.D and currency be far behind?

There is a reason the U.S does not trust the Five Eyes. There is a reason the U.S on both occasions did not give advance notice to traditional allies before they struck Iran or when they went into Venezuela.

All missions began without a hitch since the enemy nation was seemingly not aware or hence prepared . In fact, PM Starker made a conscience effort to state publicly that he wasn't made aware of the impending attack, almost as if to telegraph to the worlds leaders (Chinese leadership perhaps?) that the U.K had not been made alert to the inevitable strike by the U.S (and Israel in the case of Iran).

Ponder the situation for a moment, doesn't that public statement seem peculiar to you? It certainly does to me. What purpose or benefit would he or his nation receive for stating this?

One has to wonder if there have been instances in which America advised allies in the past, especially Five Eyes nations; and the enemy being prepared for the mission and the U.S just assuming that they had a mole internally.

What if it was an externally trusted ally?....
 
Well our PM visited Charles early on post- electioin. All of the U.K, Australia, New Zealand and Canada are coincidentally pushing into law age restrcitions requirements to use social media. All nations on cue promoted the same narrative to convince citizens of some arbitrary value. Will digital I.D and currency be far behind?

There is a reason the U.S does not trust the Five Eyes. There is a reason the U.S on both occasions did not give advance notice to traditional allies before they struck Iran or when they went into Venezuela.

All missions began without a hitch since the enemy nation was seemingly not aware or hence prepared . In fact, PM Starker made a conscience effort to state publicly that he wasn't made aware of the impending attack, almost as if to telegraph to the worlds leaders (Chinese leadership perhaps?) that the U.K had not been made alert to the inevitable strike by the U.S (and Israel in the case of Iran).

Ponder the situation for a moment, doesn't that public statement seem peculiar to you? It certainly does to me. What purpose or benefit would he or his nation receive for stating this?

One has to wonder if there have been instances in which America advised allies in the past, especially Five Eyes nations; and the enemy being prepared for the mission and the U.S just assuming that they had a mole internally.

What if it was an externally trusted ally?....
So, essentially Canada is a Republic in all but name then?

And what is a Republic? China is a Republic. It just means you have a government run by "the people" and not "a monarch".

It doesn't mean much. The UK, Spain, Holland, Sweden, Norway are all more democratic than China.
 
Canada wasn't warned about anything. Your country doesn't have to do anything accoding to Trumps terms. Trump is going to mess around and Canada is going to cut off electricity for most of the NE U.S.
Two can play that game:
The value of power sales from Canada to the United States totaled $3.2 billion in 2023, nearly 30% less than in 2022. In contrast, electricity exports from the United States to Canada increased $454.5 million in 2023 to $1.2 billion.
 

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