USA loses $150 billion a year through illegal immigrant remitances.

While it is true that federal benefits are limited, a lot of states still provide various benefits to those who have citizen children, regardless of their immigration status.
I really have no problem with a nation being a good host to foreign visitors.
I have a problem with my tax money incentivizing illegal immigration.
Then I suggest you stop supporting corporations, companies and the wealthy from luring them here with the prospects of work.
 
While it is true that federal benefits are limited, a lot of states still provide various benefits to those who have citizen children, regardless of their immigration status.
Of course if the kid is an american. Funny you only care about American babies If their parents were born here.
That whole thing about how all life is precious is severely limited to these good people.
They need to realize less abortions means more liberals running around.
Political affiliation does seem to have a genetic component, but how someone is raised is also part of it. If someone is born into a family that aims to live off of the system, liberalism can be part of that. However, just being born into a dysfunctional or poor family doesn't automatically make someone liberal or vice versa.
One thing for certain you have no ability to prognostic a dollar value on a human if you expect them to be born free.
 
I’ve been saying for years it’s an illegal employer problem. Did you see the romney cotton bill where they’ll raise minimum wage to $10 hr but they want every employer to have to use e verify. I like this.
I have no objection to e-verfy except that government is all talk and no action

Does anyone remember the national no-call list that was supposed to put telemarketers out of business?

On paper it could have worked

But government employees can screw anything up and usually do
All they did was hire telemarketers from outside the nation which negated the rule for the telemarketers. Now they create fake phone numbers when they call stateside.
 
While it is true that federal benefits are limited, a lot of states still provide various benefits to those who have citizen children, regardless of their immigration status.
Of course if the kid is an american. Funny you only care about American babies If their parents were born here.
If that's a reference to abortion, I'm actually pro-choice. I do believe there should be certain limits involving the third trimester, however.
So you would keep a severely retarded baby and not late term abort it? A mongaloid?

What situation would you deny a late term abortion aside from the obvious. And do those scenarios actually happen?
 
While it is true that federal benefits are limited, a lot of states still provide various benefits to those who have citizen children, regardless of their immigration status.
Of course if the kid is an american. Funny you only care about American babies If their parents were born here.
That whole thing about how all life is precious is severely limited to these good people.
They need to realize less abortions means more liberals running around.
Political affiliation does seem to have a genetic component, but how someone is raised is also part of it. If someone is born into a family that aims to live off of the system, liberalism can be part of that. However, just being born into a dysfunctional or poor family doesn't automatically make someone liberal or vice versa.
I was born and raised 1970-1990. A great time in michigan. Flint, Saginaw and Metro Detroit boomed. Created a middle class the world had never seen before. My immigrant father was able to amass a small fortune working at ford for 20 years. Has a pension. My mom worked too. Not for a union but back then non union companies paid well because they had to compete with union jobs which were plentiful. 35% of the workforce was unionized. Today it’s 10%. How’s the middle class doing? Not as good as when I grew up.

And college was $5000 a year.

So I’m liberal fiscally. I’m pro labor not pro corporations. Even though today I’m doing fine under the new republican way Of every man for himself. Personally I’m doing fine but is society? Look at the numbers. The middle class is struggling. But the rich are getting richer.

Im a liberal.

Im also pro choice, believe science, I’m an agnostic atheist, like guns but don’t mind regulations. I believe in diversity Programs.

And I like social security and Medicare and public schools. I’m not a socialist.
 
While it is true that federal benefits are limited, a lot of states still provide various benefits to those who have citizen children, regardless of their immigration status.
I really have no problem with a nation being a good host to foreign visitors.
I have a problem with my tax money incentivizing illegal immigration.
Then I suggest you stop supporting corporations, companies and the wealthy from luring them here with the prospects of work.
LefTard Logic:
“When you leave your keys in the ignition and your car is stolen the theft is not the fault of the thief...you are to blame.”
 
All they did was hire telemarketers from outside the nation which negated the rule for the telemarketers. Now they create fake phone numbers when they call stateside.
Yes, I know

And it drives me nuts

there is one company that calls my cell phone 10-15 TIMES A WEEK!

they are targeting hispanics for some kind of obamacare insurance policy
 
I was born and raised 1970-1990. A great time in michigan. Flint, Saginaw and Metro Detroit boomed. Created a middle class the world had never seen before. My immigrant father was able to amass a small fortune working at ford for 20 years. Has a pension. My mom worked too. Not for a union but back then non union companies paid well because they had to compete with union jobs which were plentiful. 35% of the workforce was unionized. Today it’s 10%. How’s the middle class doing? Not as good as when I grew up.

Haha...You Lefies are so confused and all over the place...I thought you HATED the good ole days when America was American?
So which is it...you miss the pre beaner, pre faggot, pre chick with dick, pre empowered filth, pre climate change bullshit era or you don’t?
Make up your twisted fucking minds please.
 
How does the US lose it?
Is that a serious question?
Yes.
Well... Healthy economies generally want their money recycled within it's own economy. If instead of sending cash to Mexico for example, you went on a vacation within the US you have helped pay the wages of all those people you bought goods/services for during that vacation. Thus supporting the economy in which the wealth was derived.

If you give that wealth to outside workers, then you strengthen that economy, rather than your own. Unless of course that money is used in another country to buy US goods. Then it could be a wash. Possibly.
If we had more cash their would be higher inflation and lower value of the currency.
That is the plan.
And it hurts the receiving country it's rather sinister plus they get use to using our money as the currency of that country which affects their value of their currency due to lack of use.
None of it benefits Americans. What part of that don't you get?
Sure it does by encouraging deflation by less currency in the country which means your dollars buy more than when there is too much currency in the market, are you catching on yet?
Are you catching on? This country is being destroyed by design.
they have to destroy the country...in order to fully take it over, hence the chinese and host of other enemies being involved with our ever greedy insatiable billionaires. They destroy the country and they take everything not having to share anything with the middle class.
 
While it is true that federal benefits are limited, a lot of states still provide various benefits to those who have citizen children, regardless of their immigration status.
I really have no problem with a nation being a good host to foreign visitors.
I have a problem with my tax money incentivizing illegal immigration.
Then I suggest you stop supporting corporations, companies and the wealthy from luring them here with the prospects of work.
Absolutely, but neither party seems serious about that.
 
Political affiliation does seem to have a genetic component, but how someone is raised is also part of it. If someone is born into a family that aims to live off of the system, liberalism can be part of that. However, just being born into a dysfunctional or poor family doesn't automatically make someone liberal or vice versa.
One thing for certain you have no ability to prognostic a dollar value on a human if you expect them to be born free.
Well, we're not free to begin with. Freedom is the lie we're fed. We're all slaves to elites to an extent.
 
So you would keep a severely retarded baby and not late term abort it? A mongaloid?

What situation would you deny a late term abortion aside from the obvious. And do those scenarios actually happen?
I just wouldn't take it as far as NY and VA have. Late term abortions should only be allowed for severe birth defects (including your example) or when the mother's life is in danger.
 
Yet another reason we have to gain control of the Southern border. We were close to getting it under control during the Trump administration. Now with Biden, the welcome sign is lit, the wall has holes, the border agents have conflicting orders. Yeah it's waaaaaaay fucked up, just the way the Democrats want it.


Damn how ignorant can anyone be? Foreign workers send money home to their families all over the world. Are Americans so impoverished that they want to rob these workers of their paychecks? No other country does that.
 
Democrats are bat shit crazy on every issue but their support of the Illegals is absolutely the most stupid thing imaginable. Well that and higher taxes.
 
I was born and raised 1970-1990. A great time in michigan. Flint, Saginaw and Metro Detroit boomed. Created a middle class the world had never seen before. My immigrant father was able to amass a small fortune working at ford for 20 years. Has a pension. My mom worked too. Not for a union but back then non union companies paid well because they had to compete with union jobs which were plentiful. 35% of the workforce was unionized. Today it’s 10%. How’s the middle class doing? Not as good as when I grew up.

And college was $5000 a year.

So I’m liberal fiscally. I’m pro labor not pro corporations. Even though today I’m doing fine under the new republican way Of every man for himself. Personally I’m doing fine but is society? Look at the numbers. The middle class is struggling. But the rich are getting richer.

Im a liberal.

Im also pro choice, believe science, I’m an agnostic atheist, like guns but don’t mind regulations. I believe in diversity Programs.

And I like social security and Medicare and public schools. I’m not a socialist.
I'm pro-labor but anti-union. That may sound contradictory, but I've seen firsthand how corrupt unions can be. I prefer the German approach to collective bargaining, which basically involves a democratic way of running business itself. A lot of major corporations in Germany give their workers more of a voice in decisions, and a lot of things are voted on. This is preferable, since having an outside organization get involved just means more opportunities for graft and bureaucracy.

College is expensive now, because of federally backed loans. End those, and the market will set much lower prices for tuition due to less demand. It would be much cheaper to just subsidize community college. Not everyone needs a 4-year degree, and we have a shortage of tradespeople.

I respect science, but I don't put it on a pedestal. Scientists are human too, and some fields of science are highly politicized, which makes them prone to bias (like climate science).

I mind most gun regulation, because most politicians don't actually know anything about guns while trying to regulate them.

I don't believe in diversity programs, because I'd rather people be judged on merit than race. We should make all government related applications for school or employment blind. Assign every application a number with no name that is visible and no race displayed. Then, people can be judged by their qualifications and achievements.

I think social security should be privatized in a manner similar to Australia's system, while scrapping Medicare. We could then implement a French-style medical system for all.

As for public schools, I prefer voucher systems that allow school choice. Charter schools are particularly useful for many areas.

I don't fit easily into one political category, but probably skew more conservative.
 
So you would keep a severely retarded baby and not late term abort it? A mongaloid?

What situation would you deny a late term abortion aside from the obvious. And do those scenarios actually happen?
I just wouldn't take it as far as NY and VA have. Late term abortions should only be allowed for severe birth defects (including your example) or when the mother's life is in danger.
Give me an example of a case you disagreed with. What is ny and va allowing?
 
I was born and raised 1970-1990. A great time in michigan. Flint, Saginaw and Metro Detroit boomed. Created a middle class the world had never seen before. My immigrant father was able to amass a small fortune working at ford for 20 years. Has a pension. My mom worked too. Not for a union but back then non union companies paid well because they had to compete with union jobs which were plentiful. 35% of the workforce was unionized. Today it’s 10%. How’s the middle class doing? Not as good as when I grew up.

And college was $5000 a year.

So I’m liberal fiscally. I’m pro labor not pro corporations. Even though today I’m doing fine under the new republican way Of every man for himself. Personally I’m doing fine but is society? Look at the numbers. The middle class is struggling. But the rich are getting richer.

Im a liberal.

Im also pro choice, believe science, I’m an agnostic atheist, like guns but don’t mind regulations. I believe in diversity Programs.

And I like social security and Medicare and public schools. I’m not a socialist.
I'm pro-labor but anti-union. That may sound contradictory, but I've seen firsthand how corrupt unions can be. I prefer the German approach to collective bargaining, which basically involves a democratic way of running business itself. A lot of major corporations in Germany give their workers more of a voice in decisions, and a lot of things are voted on. This is preferable, since having an outside organization get involved just means more opportunities for graft and bureaucracy.

College is expensive now, because of federally backed loans. End those, and the market will set much lower prices for tuition due to less demand. It would be much cheaper to just subsidize community college. Not everyone needs a 4-year degree, and we have a shortage of tradespeople.

I respect science, but I don't put it on a pedestal. Scientists are human too, and some fields of science are highly politicized, which makes them prone to bias (like climate science).

I mind most gun regulation, because most politicians don't actually know anything about guns while trying to regulate them.

I don't believe in diversity programs, because I'd rather people be judged on merit than race. We should make all government related applications for school or employment blind. Assign every application a number with no name that is visible and no race displayed. Then, people can be judged by their qualifications and achievements.

I think social security should be privatized in a manner similar to Australia's system, while scrapping Medicare. We could then implement a French-style medical system for all.

As for public schools, I prefer voucher systems that allow school choice. Charter schools are particularly useful for many areas.

I don't fit easily into one political category, but probably skew more conservative.
I may disagree on a lot of those things but not entirely. I can tell you are a rational well thought out moderate conservative. I appreciate you.

I especially like the part about German workers having a say.
 
Yet another reason we have to gain control of the Southern border. We were close to getting it under control during the Trump administration. Now with Biden, the welcome sign is lit, the wall has holes, the border agents have conflicting orders. Yeah it's waaaaaaay fucked up, just the way the Democrats want it.

They have HomeDepot in Mexico now and they are our third largest trading partners.

Our useless and alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are bigger wastes of the Other Peoples' tax monies.
 
How does the US lose it?
Here is the truth. Illegals are one of the reasons why the gap between rich and rest of us got wider.

In the past when the rich needed a carpenter or landscaper they hired a middle class American company to do the job. By hiring.illegals rich people actually save over $1 billion dollars a year. That means they are costing the middle class 1 billion dollars a year
Our extra-Constitutional immigration laws are doing that. We should be making money on foreign nationals in the US not losing money like only lousy Capitalists are wont to do.
 
Yet another reason we have to gain control of the Southern border. We were close to getting it under control during the Trump administration. Now with Biden, the welcome sign is lit, the wall has holes, the border agents have conflicting orders. Yeah it's waaaaaaay fucked up, just the way the Democrats want it.


Isn't it your right to do what you want with your money?
 

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