USA loses $150 billion a year through illegal immigrant remitances.

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You know they can just walk through into the US at the gates?
Yeah, because of Biden allowing that. Stopped
if Trump was still in power.
No, they walk through the gates every day when the border is reopened because it is called commerce, just like you can drive into and out of Mexico into the USA because it is called commerce... Why are you so ignorant to that fact? It is allowed in nations and it was allowed before NAFTA, it has been that was for a hundred years...JFC get a clue and stop playing this stupid game of propaganda with wedge issues. Trump allowed people to migrate into the US what makes you think he didn't? Trump allowed people to flow back and forth across the borders for commerce. Trump allowed political refugees in the US, Trump used catch and release in the US.....What in the hell makes you think it stopped? Trump allowed immigrants free healthcare because the law say he must, but the law doesn't allow illegals to get welfare, Trump made it so immigrants who received welfare were ineligible for citizenship that he did do. But it never did stop immigration or refugees or people becoming illegal from overstaying a visit or a work visa or an H1B visa...
1. Specific individuals are allowed in those gates, IF they have a REASON to coming through, and only then, not for caravans of thousands of dirtbag migrants disrespecting our laws, and us.

2. As for political refugees, Trump reduced the number of them, and made it tougher for those who PRETEND to be refugees from crime (or whatever) when actually all they are coming here for is to suck up our welfare $$$ enticed to them, by US liberals looking to get their VOTES. Why are you so ignorant to that fact?

3. Trump STOPPED catch & release. That was an Obama activity. What makes me think it stopped it IT WAS, and if you stopped watching you liberal BS media, an started watching Newsmax, OAN, the First, et al conservative media , you'd know that.

4. Show me where Trump allowed ILLEGAL immigrants to get free healthcare. Got a source ? Got a link ? Got anything ?

5. I've now devoted 90% over the greater part of an hour to just you, when I have many alerts from many other posters to attend to. Your ignorance is abounding. Watch Newsmax. Get cured.
If I live in the border and want to go have a party in Mexico I am allowed to traverse the national boundaries for such an occasion and the same goes if I want to come into the US to party. It doesn't take a presidential invite to cross the border...
What happens when a dirt poor non-Mexican goes into Mexico and is told to leave?
Then he would retort, "donde"?
And then be shot.
Out of a canon?
 

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If I live in the border and want to go have a party in Mexico I am allowed to traverse the national boundaries for such an occasion and the same goes if I want to come into the US to party. It doesn't take a presidential invite to cross the border...
FALSE! You CANNOT legally cross the US border, without inspection from US immigration authorities. If you do, you have committed a CRIME, for which you can be fined and imprisoned in a US federal prison. US Code 8, Section 1325. Look it up, ignorant victim of liberal OMISSION and DISTORTION media.

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien

(a)Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

Quite amazing the misinformation rolling around in the heads of liberals. I remember when they were going on talk shows, and saying that EWI (Entry Without Inspection) was only a civil offense (and they did it with a straight face). Some of them actually believed it. Pheeeeew! (high-pitched whistle)

This concludes your deprogramming education for today. I have other things to do. You're welcome.
 
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How does the US lose it?
Is that a serious question?
Yes.
Well... Healthy economies generally want their money recycled within it's own economy. If instead of sending cash to Mexico for example, you went on a vacation within the US you have helped pay the wages of all those people you bought goods/services for during that vacation. Thus supporting the economy in which the wealth was derived.

If you give that wealth to outside workers, then you strengthen that economy, rather than your own. Unless of course that money is used in another country to buy US goods. Then it could be a wash. Possibly.
If we had more cash their would be higher inflation and lower value of the currency.
If we had more cash here---------there would be more jobs. The illegals are basically parasites sucking off our economy for south of the border. Even worse, they also collect welfare here doing so which results in taxpayers getting double hit.
 

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How does the US lose it?
Is that a serious question?
Yes.
Well... Healthy economies generally want their money recycled within it's own economy. If instead of sending cash to Mexico for example, you went on a vacation within the US you have helped pay the wages of all those people you bought goods/services for during that vacation. Thus supporting the economy in which the wealth was derived.

If you give that wealth to outside workers, then you strengthen that economy, rather than your own. Unless of course that money is used in another country to buy US goods. Then it could be a wash. Possibly.
If we had more cash their would be higher inflation and lower value of the currency.
If we had more cash here---------there would be more jobs. The illegals are basically parasites sucking off our economy for south of the border. Even worse, they also collect welfare here doing so which results in taxpayers getting double hit.
The slums like illegals because they need someone to be lower than themselves.
 

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How does the US lose it?
Here is the truth. Illegals are one of the reasons why the gap between rich and rest of us got wider.

In the past when the rich needed a carpenter or landscaper they hired a middle class American company to do the job. By hiring.illegals rich people actually save over $1 billion dollars a year. That means they are costing the middle class 1 billion dollars a year
If they are illegals and are undocumented how would they know their immigration status when they send remittance? They don't ask you at Western Union...
How would who know their immigration status? Rich people? If they are like my brother and they have illegals working around the house as fix it men, my brother has no way to verify. Should we make it a law every small business shows they are a registered business? A lot of these are word of mouth and under the table. I don’t think you can stop this. But corporations who hire illegals I th8nk we can police. And we should.
 

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Actually sending a lot of dough to another country can undermine it's economy.
I steal from Canada all the time. I give American companies 20% off but Canadians have to deal with additional duties and taxes so I give Canadians 25 sometimes 30% off. I bet the company I’m beating up on in Canada hates me. But even when i give 30% off we still make $400 for every $1000 they buy. 41.29% profit margin.
 

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How would who know their immigration status? Rich people? If they are like my brother and they have illegals working around the house as fix it men, my brother has no way to verify. Should we make it a law every small business shows they are a registered business? A lot of these are word of mouth and under the table. I don’t think you can stop this. But corporations who hire illegals I th8nk we can police. And we should.
On of the main reasons why illegal hiring is so unenforced is because of the difficulty of [resenting proof. It centers around just one word >>"KNOWINGLY". Illegal aliens don't go around labeling themselves as illegal. and when asked, notoriously, they lie and claim to be US citizens.

First, there is the difficulty of proving that the illegal alien is that. Secondly, unless it can be clearly shown the employer KNEW the illegal alien was that, he cannot be convicted under the 1986 IRCA law. While many employers deliberatley violate the law, in many cases, employers DO NOT know the nationality of the workers, and are legitimately not in violation of the law.

Over the course of time, too many cases against employers have had to be dropped because of insufficient evidence, that prosecutors have been reluctant to place charges.
 

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How does the US lose it?
Is that a serious question?
Yes.
Well... Healthy economies generally want their money recycled within it's own economy. If instead of sending cash to Mexico for example, you went on a vacation within the US you have helped pay the wages of all those people you bought goods/services for during that vacation. Thus supporting the economy in which the wealth was derived.

If you give that wealth to outside workers, then you strengthen that economy, rather than your own. Unless of course that money is used in another country to buy US goods. Then it could be a wash. Possibly.
Makes you wonder why more conserve-hate-ives are not ragging on Teddy Cruz for going to Cancun instead of Aspen or Breckenridge. Especially since the US Hospitality sector is hurting so badly.
Cruz is the new orange man bad for you low iq idiots. Cancun is the most popular destination down there for Americans followed by DR/Punta Cana.
Good to see you support his proping up the Mexican economy more than the hurting American economy. Remember back when you used to be a patriot? Yeah, me neither.
There is nothing patriotic or non patriotic about taking a vacation outside of the USA. This is something you made up. Really stupid stuff congrats.
Helping your nation during it's time of need isn't patriotic?
 

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Nope, the whole family did not get stimulus checks either which is welfare...If you are a citizen married to an undocumented immigrant only the citizen received a stimulus payment.

Generally, undocumented immigrants including DACA (Deferred Action Childhood Arrivals) holders are ineligible to receive federal public benefits like supplemental nutrition assistant program (SNAP), regular Medicaid, Social Security, healthcare subsidies, and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), ( here , here ).

Since the enactment of the 1996 welfare reform laws, most lawfully residing immigrants were also “barred from receiving assistance under the major federal benefits programs for five years or longer,” according to the National Immigration Law Center ( here ).

These eligibility restrictions preceded Trump’s presidency. At a federal level, illegal immigrants are mostly only granted “welfare” in the form of emergency medical help and disaster relief funds. Undocumented children and teens can and must also attend public school ( here ).

As far as emergency medical no one can be denied that in the USA. It is still not a form of a continuous benefit it is a gesture of humanitarianism.
While it is true that federal benefits are limited, a lot of states still provide various benefits to those who have citizen children, regardless of their immigration status.
 

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Nope, the whole family did not get stimulus checks either which is welfare...If you are a citizen married to an undocumented immigrant only the citizen received a stimulus payment.

Generally, undocumented immigrants including DACA (Deferred Action Childhood Arrivals) holders are ineligible to receive federal public benefits like supplemental nutrition assistant program (SNAP), regular Medicaid, Social Security, healthcare subsidies, and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), ( here , here ).

Since the enactment of the 1996 welfare reform laws, most lawfully residing immigrants were also “barred from receiving assistance under the major federal benefits programs for five years or longer,” according to the National Immigration Law Center ( here ).

These eligibility restrictions preceded Trump’s presidency. At a federal level, illegal immigrants are mostly only granted “welfare” in the form of emergency medical help and disaster relief funds. Undocumented children and teens can and must also attend public school ( here ).

As far as emergency medical no one can be denied that in the USA. It is still not a form of a continuous benefit it is a gesture of humanitarianism.
While it is true that federal benefits are limited, a lot of states still provide various benefits to those who have citizen children, regardless of their immigration status.
I really have no problem with a nation being a good host to foreign visitors.
 

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Nope, the whole family did not get stimulus checks either which is welfare...If you are a citizen married to an undocumented immigrant only the citizen received a stimulus payment.

Generally, undocumented immigrants including DACA (Deferred Action Childhood Arrivals) holders are ineligible to receive federal public benefits like supplemental nutrition assistant program (SNAP), regular Medicaid, Social Security, healthcare subsidies, and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), ( here , here ).

Since the enactment of the 1996 welfare reform laws, most lawfully residing immigrants were also “barred from receiving assistance under the major federal benefits programs for five years or longer,” according to the National Immigration Law Center ( here ).

These eligibility restrictions preceded Trump’s presidency. At a federal level, illegal immigrants are mostly only granted “welfare” in the form of emergency medical help and disaster relief funds. Undocumented children and teens can and must also attend public school ( here ).

As far as emergency medical no one can be denied that in the USA. It is still not a form of a continuous benefit it is a gesture of humanitarianism.
While it is true that federal benefits are limited, a lot of states still provide various benefits to those who have citizen children, regardless of their immigration status.
Of course if the kid is an american. Funny you only care about American babies If their parents were born here.
 

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Nope, the whole family did not get stimulus checks either which is welfare...If you are a citizen married to an undocumented immigrant only the citizen received a stimulus payment.

Generally, undocumented immigrants including DACA (Deferred Action Childhood Arrivals) holders are ineligible to receive federal public benefits like supplemental nutrition assistant program (SNAP), regular Medicaid, Social Security, healthcare subsidies, and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), ( here , here ).

Since the enactment of the 1996 welfare reform laws, most lawfully residing immigrants were also “barred from receiving assistance under the major federal benefits programs for five years or longer,” according to the National Immigration Law Center ( here ).

These eligibility restrictions preceded Trump’s presidency. At a federal level, illegal immigrants are mostly only granted “welfare” in the form of emergency medical help and disaster relief funds. Undocumented children and teens can and must also attend public school ( here ).

As far as emergency medical no one can be denied that in the USA. It is still not a form of a continuous benefit it is a gesture of humanitarianism.
While it is true that federal benefits are limited, a lot of states still provide various benefits to those who have citizen children, regardless of their immigration status.
Of course if the kid is an american. Funny you only care about American babies If their parents were born here.
That whole thing about how all life is precious is severely limited to these good people.
 

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How does the US lose it?
Is that a serious question?
Yes.
Well... Healthy economies generally want their money recycled within it's own economy. If instead of sending cash to Mexico for example, you went on a vacation within the US you have helped pay the wages of all those people you bought goods/services for during that vacation. Thus supporting the economy in which the wealth was derived.

If you give that wealth to outside workers, then you strengthen that economy, rather than your own. Unless of course that money is used in another country to buy US goods. Then it could be a wash. Possibly.
Makes you wonder why more conserve-hate-ives are not ragging on Teddy Cruz for going to Cancun instead of Aspen or Breckenridge. Especially since the US Hospitality sector is hurting so badly.
Cruz is the new orange man bad for you low iq idiots. Cancun is the most popular destination down there for Americans followed by DR/Punta Cana.
Good to see you support his proping up the Mexican economy more than the hurting American economy. Remember back when you used to be a patriot? Yeah, me neither.
There is nothing patriotic or non patriotic about taking a vacation outside of the USA. This is something you made up. Really stupid stuff congrats.
Helping your nation during it's time of need isn't patriotic?
Ph uk it. Until we are even.
 

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Nope, the whole family did not get stimulus checks either which is welfare...If you are a citizen married to an undocumented immigrant only the citizen received a stimulus payment.

Generally, undocumented immigrants including DACA (Deferred Action Childhood Arrivals) holders are ineligible to receive federal public benefits like supplemental nutrition assistant program (SNAP), regular Medicaid, Social Security, healthcare subsidies, and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), ( here , here ).

Since the enactment of the 1996 welfare reform laws, most lawfully residing immigrants were also “barred from receiving assistance under the major federal benefits programs for five years or longer,” according to the National Immigration Law Center ( here ).

These eligibility restrictions preceded Trump’s presidency. At a federal level, illegal immigrants are mostly only granted “welfare” in the form of emergency medical help and disaster relief funds. Undocumented children and teens can and must also attend public school ( here ).

As far as emergency medical no one can be denied that in the USA. It is still not a form of a continuous benefit it is a gesture of humanitarianism.
While it is true that federal benefits are limited, a lot of states still provide various benefits to those who have citizen children, regardless of their immigration status.
Of course if the kid is an american. Funny you only care about American babies If their parents were born here.
That whole thing about how all life is precious is severely limited to these good people.
They need to realize less abortions means more liberals running around.
 

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I’ve been saying for years it’s an illegal employer problem. Did you see the romney cotton bill where they’ll raise minimum wage to $10 hr but they want every employer to have to use e verify. I like this.
I have no objection to e-verfy except that government is all talk and no action

Does anyone remember the national no-call list that was supposed to put telemarketers out of business?

On paper it could have worked

But government employees can screw anything up and usually do
 

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While it is true that federal benefits are limited, a lot of states still provide various benefits to those who have citizen children, regardless of their immigration status.
I really have no problem with a nation being a good host to foreign visitors.
I have a problem with my tax money incentivizing illegal immigration.
 

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While it is true that federal benefits are limited, a lot of states still provide various benefits to those who have citizen children, regardless of their immigration status.
Of course if the kid is an american. Funny you only care about American babies If their parents were born here.
If that's a reference to abortion, I'm actually pro-choice. I do believe there should be certain limits involving the third trimester, however.
 

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While it is true that federal benefits are limited, a lot of states still provide various benefits to those who have citizen children, regardless of their immigration status.
Of course if the kid is an american. Funny you only care about American babies If their parents were born here.
That whole thing about how all life is precious is severely limited to these good people.
I can't speak for pro-lifers, but I personally view the worth of a life in proportion to someone's actions and capabilities. It isn't universally precious.
 

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While it is true that federal benefits are limited, a lot of states still provide various benefits to those who have citizen children, regardless of their immigration status.
Of course if the kid is an american. Funny you only care about American babies If their parents were born here.
That whole thing about how all life is precious is severely limited to these good people.
They need to realize less abortions means more liberals running around.
Political affiliation does seem to have a genetic component, but how someone is raised is also part of it. If someone is born into a family that aims to live off of the system, liberalism can be part of that. However, just being born into a dysfunctional or poor family doesn't automatically make someone liberal or vice versa.
 

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