Unsealed Doc Reveals Biden FBI Authorized the Use of Deadly Force During Mar-a-Lago Raid – Armed Agents Prepared to Confront Trump

[Mac-7]

Randy Weaver was a fugitive from the law.

Thats a lie

The Marshals had a warrant for Weaver over selling two sawed off shotguns

So they were there to arrest him

But he was not yet a fugitive

 

[Robert W]

Regular local police kill far more innocents than the FBI ever has, but you’re never afraid of defending them. After all, your stance is that you just need to comply with the authorities and you have nothing to worry about.

Randy Weaver was a fugitive from the law. Why didn't he have to comply with the authorities?
Elian Gonzales was supposed to be turned over to his father. Why didn't his family have to comply with the authorities?

Oh, and as a matter of fact, NEITHER of these instances had to do with the FBI. The first was the US marshals and the second was the Border Patrol.

Your "decision" has little to do with facts or consistency.

So you have no complaints about the Feds at all. Weaver was at his home. Doing things citizens do. Then shots rang out. And Weaver was forced to defend.

 

[Robert W]

Regular local police kill far more innocents than the FBI ever has, but you’re never afraid of defending them. After all, your stance is that you just need to comply with the authorities and you have nothing to worry about.

Randy Weaver was a fugitive from the law. Why didn't he have to comply with the authorities?
Elian Gonzales was supposed to be turned over to his father. Why didn't his family have to comply with the authorities?

Oh, and as a matter of fact, NEITHER of these instances had to do with the FBI. The first was the US marshals and the second was the Border Patrol.

Your "decision" has little to do with facts or consistency.

Weaver collected from the Feds. Weaver was in the right is why.
In 1995, a civil suit brought by the Weaver family against the United States was settled, with the government agreeing to pay $3.1 million in compensation for the deaths of Vicki and Sammy Weaver. Five years later, Kevin Harris accepted a $380,000 settlement.

The Randy Weaver (Ruby Ridge) Trial: An Account​

 

[Marener]

They did not need warrants at the Trump property either. OF Course Biden's government treated him with kid gloves.

Why didn’t they need a search warrant?

 

[Lesh]

What do you think the topic of this thread is?

The use of deadly force was authorized on the FBI search warrant

As SOP

 

[Mac-7]

Regular local police kill far more innocents than the FBI ever has, but you’re never afraid of defending them. After all, your stance is that you just need to comply with the authorities and you have nothing to worry about.

Randy Weaver was a fugitive from the law. Why didn't he have to comply with the authorities?
Elian Gonzales was supposed to be turned over to his father. Why didn't his family have to comply with the authorities?

Oh, and as a matter of fact, NEITHER of these instances had to do with the FBI. The first was the US marshals and the second was the Border Patrol.

Your "decision" has little to do with facts or consistency.

Oh, and as a matter of fact, NEITHER of these instances had to do with the FBI. The first was the US marshals and the second was the Border Patrol.

See post 653

 

[Mac-7]

As SOP

Yes I think thats probably true

But I also think they made an unnecessary show of force

 

[Lesh]

Was that document used at the Biden property?

Yes

 

[two_iron]

Imagine the fbi getting into a firefight with the Secret Service (who are sworn to protect President Trump). That kind of fuckup would have been a real resume stuffer for your stammering shit clown.... right up there with murdering 13 troops in Kabul and 700,000 covid deaths on his watch.

Wow.... that could have been a game changer. He can't think past 'ice cream at 2pm' and 'who brought the hot 9-year old to this event?'

 

[Marener]

Thats a lie

The Marshals had a warrant for Weaver over selling two sawed off shotguns

So they were there to arrest him

But he was not yet a fugitive

He was a fugitive. That’s why the marshals were involved. Their job is to apprehend fugitives.

Weaver had already been arrested and released on bail months prior to the siege. He was given opportunities to surrender peacefully. He refused, putting his family in danger, or perhaps he was using them as a human shield?

Yet again, your facts are incorrect in a very convenient way. Not to mention your glaring double standard. What happened to your demands that everyone just comply with the authorities? Why don’t you accuse Weaver of having white supremacist brain disease?

 

[Marener]

Oh, and as a matter of fact, NEITHER of these instances had to do with the FBI. The first was the US marshals and the second was the Border Patrol.

See post 653

Elian Gonzales was apprehended by the border patrol. Another failed “instance” of the danger of the FBI.

 

[Mac-7]

He was a fugitive. That’s why the marshals were involved. Their job is to apprehend fugitives.

Weaver had already been arrested and released on bail months prior to the siege. He was given opportunities to surrender peacefully. He refused, putting his family in danger, or perhaps he was using them as a human shield?

Yet again, your facts are incorrect in a very convenient way. Not to mention your glaring double standard. What happened to your demands that everyone just comply with the authorities? Why don’t you accuse Weaver of having white supremacist brain disease?

Weaver failed to appear in court, but did not resist arrest till the Marshals opened fire on his family

 

[Marener]

Yes I think thats probably true

But I also think they made an unnecessary show of force

The FBI literally tried to keep it low key, and not have any show of force. Their agents showed up in casual clothes. They waited till Trump was away. Everything the FBI did was to keep this from blowing up.
Where is the “Unnecessary show of force“ here?

 

[Mac-7]

Elian Gonzales was apprehended by the border patrol. Another failed “instance” of the danger of the FBI.

You are too late

I had already excused the FBI in a previous post

 

[Marener]

Weaver failed to appear in court, but did not resist arrest till the Marshals opened fire on his family

His family opened fire on the marshals first who were authorized to defend themselves.

Weaver was ordered to surrender, he refused. Whatever happened to your demand that people “just comply”?

 

[Marener]

You are too late

I had already excused the FBI in a previous post

you did in the instance for Ruby Ridge, not Elian Gonzales.

Still trying to figure out where your distrust of the FBI comes in since your examples were not about the FBI.

 

[Mac-7]

The FBI literally tried to keep it low key, and not have any show of force. Their agents showed up in casual clothes. They waited till Trump was away. Everything the FBI did was to keep this from blowing up.
Where is the “Unnecessary show of force“ here?

Yes, there are instructions to wear civilian clothes in the warrant

So thats a fair point by you

 

[Robert W]

He was a fugitive. That’s why the marshals were involved. Their job is to apprehend fugitives.

Weaver had already been arrested and released on bail months prior to the siege. He was given opportunities to surrender peacefully. He refused, putting his family in danger, or perhaps he was using them as a human shield?

Yet again, your facts are incorrect in a very convenient way. Not to mention your glaring double standard. What happened to your demands that everyone just comply with the authorities? Why don’t you accuse Weaver of having white supremacist brain disease?

There is nothing wrong with having barrels of shot guns at the proper size.

You act like the Feds were not forced to pay him 3 million dollars for their fuck up.

 

[Marener]

Yes, there are instructions to wear civilian clothes in the warrant

So thats a fair point by you

Remains to be seen what was the unnecessary show of force?

All your assertions seem to be based on feels rather than facts.

FBI bad. That’s the extent of the logic here.

 

[Robert W]

Remains to be seen what was the unnecessary show of force?

All your assertions seem to be based on feels rather than facts.

FBI bad. That’s the extent of the logic here.

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