Universal Basic Income: Biden's Best Bet?

[danielpalos]

You are, again, completely wrong. UC was never intended to solve simple poverty.

That is the actual problem, right wingers. Thanks for clarifying it. UC can and should solve simple poverty and automatically stabilize our economy at the same time.

Then stop calling it UC. It's welfare, plain and simple.

It promotes the general welfare, unlike your alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror. Plain and simple for discretionary spending purposes, every time it comes up.

 

[hadit]

Unemployment compensation is not welfare but a comprehensive insurance program that should actually solve for something, like simple poverty not nothing on a for-profit basis as right wingers would prefer.

Why should an insurance policy that covers temporary expenses associated with job loss attempt to solve poverty? That's not what it was designed for.

He sees the word "unemployment" in the name and assumes it covers him when he just doesn't want to work. And he won't deviate from it.

 

[danielpalos]

Unemployment compensation is not welfare but a comprehensive insurance program that should actually solve for something, like simple poverty not nothing on a for-profit basis as right wingers would prefer.

Why should an insurance policy that covers temporary expenses associated with job loss attempt to solve poverty? That's not what it was designed for.

lol. Merely and simply Because, there is no provision for excuses in our federal doctrine.

 

[danielpalos]

Unemployment compensation is not welfare but a comprehensive insurance program that should actually solve for something, like simple poverty not nothing on a for-profit basis as right wingers would prefer.

Why should an insurance policy that covers temporary expenses associated with job loss attempt to solve poverty? That's not what it was designed for.

He sees the word "unemployment" in the name and assumes it covers him when he just doesn't want to work. And he won't deviate from it.

Individual liberty and natural rights, what is That sayeth the right wing in non-socialism threads.

 

[hadit]

You are, again, completely wrong. UC was never intended to solve simple poverty.

That is the actual problem, right wingers. Thanks for clarifying it. UC can and should solve simple poverty and automatically stabilize our economy at the same time.

Then stop calling it UC. It's welfare, plain and simple.

It promotes the general welfare, unlike your alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror. Plain and simple for discretionary spending purposes, every time it comes up.

If you are honest and just say flat out that you want a welfare program to pay you $15/hr to stay at home and smoke pot, it would go easier for you. You still have to account for the opportunity cost of taking all that money out of the economy. How many jobs go uncreated, how many products go uninvented, how many homes go into foreclosure because the money just isn't there?

 

[Orangecat]

Why do you believe that?

Because enslaving people is wrong. No one besides yourself should be responsible for your personal bills.

Solving simple poverty promotes and could provide for the general welfare.

STFU with the boilerplate nonsense.
Who do you think is obligated to pay your personal expenses in life, you or your fellow citizens?

 

[danielpalos]

You are, again, completely wrong. UC was never intended to solve simple poverty.

That is the actual problem, right wingers. Thanks for clarifying it. UC can and should solve simple poverty and automatically stabilize our economy at the same time.

Then stop calling it UC. It's welfare, plain and simple.

It promotes the general welfare, unlike your alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror. Plain and simple for discretionary spending purposes, every time it comes up.

If you are honest and just say flat out that you want a welfare program to pay you $15/hr to stay at home and smoke pot, it would go easier for you. You still have to account for the opportunity cost of taking all that money out of the economy. How many jobs go uncreated, how many products go uninvented, how many homes go into foreclosure because the money just isn't there?

Nope; It is only socialism in that it both promotes and provides for the general welfare as enumerated in our federal Constitution, unlike your socialism on a national and international basis for your expensive right wing and alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror.

The actual policy itself should be required to solve for simple poverty using existing legal and physical infrastructure that can always be upgraded. Thus, such a policy must promote and provide for the general welfare in a market friendly manner due to our Commerce clause.

 

[Orangecat]

lol. Merely and simply Because, there is no provision for excuses in our federal doctrine.

Less word salad, more substance, please.

 

[danielpalos]

Because enslaving people is wrong. No one besides yourself should be responsible for your personal bills.

I am not sure why you believe it is slavery as the public debt. You are already a slave with no solutions in that case.

 

[Orangecat]

Individual liberty and natural rights, what is That sayeth the right wing in non-socialism threads.

Less word salad, more substance, please.

 

[Orangecat]

I am not sure why you believe it is slavery as the public debt. You are already a slave with no solutions in that case.

Less word salad, more substance, please.

 

[danielpalos]

lol. Merely and simply Because, there is no provision for excuses in our federal doctrine.

Less word salad, more substance, please.

You have no fine capital solutions and only have right wing propaganda and lousy rhetoric that is nothing but Hoax or fallacy. Why is that?

Our welfare clause is general and must provide for any given contingency with a general Solution from the top down.

 

[danielpalos]

Individual liberty and natural rights, what is That sayeth the right wing in non-socialism threads.

Less word salad, more substance, please.

Sorry; It takes time to dumb it down enough for the fantastical right wing, who want to be taken, literally, serious.

 

[hadit]

You are, again, completely wrong. UC was never intended to solve simple poverty.

That is the actual problem, right wingers. Thanks for clarifying it. UC can and should solve simple poverty and automatically stabilize our economy at the same time.

Then stop calling it UC. It's welfare, plain and simple.

It promotes the general welfare, unlike your alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror. Plain and simple for discretionary spending purposes, every time it comes up.

If you are honest and just say flat out that you want a welfare program to pay you $15/hr to stay at home and smoke pot, it would go easier for you. You still have to account for the opportunity cost of taking all that money out of the economy. How many jobs go uncreated, how many products go uninvented, how many homes go into foreclosure because the money just isn't there?

Nope; It is only socialism in that it both promotes and provides for the general welfare as enumerated in our federal Constitution, unlike your socialism on a national and international basis for your expensive right wing and alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror.

The actual policy itself should be required to solve for simple poverty using existing legal and physical infrastructure that can always be upgraded. Thus, such a policy must promote and provide for the general welfare in a market friendly manner due to our Commerce clause.

So you won't consider the opportunity cost. Not surprising. You seem to believe that it will work because you want it to work, and you talk in the vaguest of generalities with no concept of how anything could possibly work. You might as well say you've eliminated war because you think countries should just get along.

 

[danielpalos]

So you won't consider the opportunity cost. Not surprising.

You don't seem to understand the comprehensiveness of automatic stabilization of our economy such a policy would provide.

What alleged opportunity cost are you referring to?

 

[TheParser]

I voted for President Trump, but I am so happy to learn that President Biden may give everyone a basic income.

Does that mean that there will no longer be an excuse for people to shoplift and loot?

Hurrah!

 

[hadit]

Unemployment compensation is not welfare but a comprehensive insurance program that should actually solve for something, like simple poverty not nothing on a for-profit basis as right wingers would prefer.

Why should an insurance policy that covers temporary expenses associated with job loss attempt to solve poverty? That's not what it was designed for.

He sees the word "unemployment" in the name and assumes it covers him when he just doesn't want to work. And he won't deviate from it.

Individual liberty and natural rights, what is That sayeth the right wing in non-socialism threads.

Prove me wrong.

 

[danielpalos]

Unemployment compensation is not welfare but a comprehensive insurance program that should actually solve for something, like simple poverty not nothing on a for-profit basis as right wingers would prefer.

Why should an insurance policy that covers temporary expenses associated with job loss attempt to solve poverty? That's not what it was designed for.

He sees the word "unemployment" in the name and assumes it covers him when he just doesn't want to work. And he won't deviate from it.

Individual liberty and natural rights, what is That sayeth the right wing in non-socialism threads.

Prove me wrong.

Individual liberty and natural rights already proved you wrong. You don't even understand the concepts only your right wing propaganda.

Individual liberty is enabled by equal protection of our at-will employment laws in any conflict of laws. UC codes cannot conflict with established federal doctrine or State Constitutions. Thus, employment is at the will of either party even for UC purposes.

 

[Orangecat]

You have no fine capital solutions and only have right wing propaganda and lousy rhetoric that is nothing but Hoax or fallacy. Why is that?

Less word salad, more substance, please.

Our welfare clause is general and must provide for any given contingency with a general Solution from the top down.

Incorrect. Your faith in government is both naive and foolish.

 

[Orangecat]

Sorry; It takes time to dumb it down enough for the fantastical right wing, who want to be taken, literally, serious.

Your posts can't be dumbed down any further.
Why do you feel the government owes you money just because you're alive?