UN watchdog: Fordow centrifuges no longer operational

[Meister]

No.

That's just stupidity

Yup, but Contumacious doesn't think so.

 

[Edgetho]

Where’s the Persian home country?

Back in the Day, the Parthians gave Rome all the shit it could handle. Great Horsemen. The phrase "Parting Shot" is a derivation of the phrase, "Parthian Shot". They were known to be able to ride their horses while turning almost backwards to chuck an arrow at the pursuing Romans.

Quite a trick when the saddle and, especially, the stirrup had yet to be invented.

Google AI ~

No, the Parthians were not Persians in terms of ethnicity, but they were an Iranian people who established the Parthian Empire. While they ruled over a vast territory that included Persia, their origins trace back to the region of Parthia, located in northeastern Iran. The Parthians are considered a distinct Iranian group, closely related to the Persians but not the same.

 

[Edgetho]

Then there was the Sassanids who were even more Badass than the Parthians....

 

[Rigby5]

why do the experts say 300 feet? Are you better than the experts now? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

They only say 300' if it is in soil.
In rock or reinforced concrete, it is far less.

The point is that the Iranians knew about the bunker busters and designed accordingly.
We did not engineer new weapons for this attack.
So why would Iranians have deliberately allowed a vulnerability?

And where should the bunker buster have been aimed?
The entrance is not where the facility has to be.
It could be anywhere horizontally.

 

[Edgetho]

Yup, but Contumacious doesn't think so.

Stupid people are usually too stupid to realize that they're actually, you know -- Stupid.

Kind of a downward spiral

 

[jc456]

Persia.

aka; Iran

Iran, officially the Islamic Republic of Iran and also known as Persia, is a country in West Asia. It borders Iraq to the west, Turkey, Azerbaijan, and Armenia to the northwest, Russia and the Caspian ... Wikipedia
Capital: Tehran
Population: 90.61 million (2023) World Bank
Official language: Persian

How am I wrong. Your own link ties them here

 

[BULLDOG]

Fordow centrifuges ‘no longer operational’ after Trump strikes, UN nuclear watchdog concludes

President Trump has been adamant that Iran’s facilities at Fordow, Isfahan and Natanz were “obliterated” by Saturday’s strikes.

nypost.com

I do not understand why some people want Iran to get a nuclear weapon so badly that they misrepresent so much about the SUCCESSFUL BOMBING.

These are the same people rooting for the Iran Israel war to continue and for more PEOPLE TO DIE…JUST BECAUSE THEY DO NOT LIKE TRUMP.

Putrid.

Just to be clear, You think those who think we should know before we celebrate trump completely destroying those nuclear capabilities are somehow wanting Iran to have nuclear weapons? Are you really that stupid?

 

[jc456]

They only say 300' if it is in soil.
In rock or reinforced concrete, it is far less.

The point is that the Iranians knew about the bunker busters and designed accordingly.
We did not engineer new weapons for this attack.
So why would Iranians have deliberately allowed a vulnerability?

And where should the bunker buster have been aimed?
The entrance is not where the facility has to be.
It could be anywhere horizontally.

Proof is on you

 

[jc456]

Back in the Day, the Parthians gave Rome all the shit it could handle. Great Horsemen. The phrase "Parting Shot" is a derivation of the phrase, "Parthian Shot". They were known to be able to ride their horses while turning almost backwards to chuck an arrow at the pursuing Romans.

Quite a trick when the saddle and, especially, the stirrup had yet to be invented.

Google AI ~

No, the Parthians were not Persians in terms of ethnicity, but they were an Iranian people who established the Parthian Empire. While they ruled over a vast territory that included Persia, their origins trace back to the region of Parthia, located in northeastern Iran. The Parthians are considered a distinct Iranian group, closely related to the Persians but not the same.

Yep the war that still hasn’t ended

 

[Rigby5]

What about a slip fault occurring along a subduction zone like those causing tsunamis?

The edge of the plate springs up releasing the tension, lifting the sea floor and ocean with it.

Rigby, you should just shut up and stop talking until you actually know more than you are saying rather than always saying more than you know.

Wrong.
Regardless of whether the earthquake is the normal sideways or the rare vertical, the point is that it is not just a vibration, but a rapid acceleration and deceleration.
And that is what caused the damage.
There is no acceleration or deceleration from an explosion when you are not in its expansion containment area.

I do know much more than I bother saying.

And it is easily verified by the many failed Allied attempts to knock out the Germany submarine pens in Normandy.
They never succeeded, even though they did build special bunker busters many, many times.

And the Iranian enrichment facilities are much more secure than the submarine pens in Normandy.

Again, where would one even aim a bunker buster at when attempting to knock out an enrichment facility?
All you know is where the entrance is, not the actual room with the centrifuges.
Could be almost anywhere.

 

[jc456]

Wrong.
Regardless of whether the earthquake is the normal sideways or the rare vertical, the point is that it is not just a vibration, but a rapid acceleration and deceleration.
And that is what caused the damage.
There is no acceleration or deceleration from an explosion when you are not in its expansion containment area.

I do know much more than I bother saying.

And it is easily verified by the many failed Allied attempts to knock out the Germany submarine pens in Normandy.
They never succeeded, even though they did build special bunker busters many, many times.

And the Iranian enrichment facilities are much more secure than the submarine pens in Normandy.

Again, where would one even aim a bunker buster at when attempting to knock out an enrichment facility?
All you know is where the entrance is, not the actual room with the centrifuges.
Could be almost anywhere.

No facts supporting you yet

 

[Rigby5]

Their energy is determined by their amplitude. LF waves are what do the most damage in an earthquake to buildings because their moment of inertia is greatest.


You really are a totally clueless shit for brains. Must be why I keep you on Ignore. Not even worth my time talking to you.

13.2: Seismic Waves and Measuring Earthquakes

geo.libretexts.org

No, low frequency waves are pretty much insignificant in an earthquake because they are secondary, and just the reflection or echo of the far more massive primary wave that is lateral shift.

The moment of inertia of low frequency waves is nonexistent because the distance and duration of each vibration is so tiny.

Its is like when you launch an arrow with a bow.
The primary wave is the horizontal displacement, that not only causes the arrow to take flight, but also causes minor low frequency curvature of the arrow and vibration of the bow string. But clearly the main force and impact effect is from the horizontal displacement from the primary wave.

 

[Edgetho]

Yep the war that still hasn’t ended

Well, yes and -- No.

The Sassanids were overthrown by the Muzzies in the mid-600's. That War hasn't ended. We lost Eastern Rome (Byzantium) to them. And all those lands they claim as their own today? They belonged to the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine).

So when you hear IDIOTS talk out of their asses about how it was originally Arab land -- That is just simply false. They conquered it from Europeans. Greece had it for 350 years, Rome for 450 years, Byzantium for 200 years.

For almost 1,400 years we've been fighitng Muzzies in one form or another. They invaded Europe multiple times and got close to taking it at least once.

The Poles and their Heavy Cavalry, the Winged Hussars, saved our asses in that one. Not sure Western Europe could have stood up to them. More likely, the goat fuckers would have just settled in and got comfortable.

They are NOT nice people. All they know how to do is conquer people weaker than them and enslave them. It's all they've EVER known how to do.

Islam sucks ass. Always has, always will. They are our greatest enemy. Bigly. NOT the Chinese, NOT the Russians..... Goatfuckers.

 

[Rigby5]

360,000 pounds of explosives went BOOM at least 50 meters underground….one 30,000 pound following another into a hole the width of a washing machine.

Anything under there is FUCKED PROPER.

If 360,000 pounds were to explode on the ground, you would have to be 23,000 feet away to avoid fragmentation.

That is 4 1/2 miles.

(I know not all 360,000 were explosives, but it gives a general idea)

Wrong.
None of the force of the explosion is going to go downward into solid rock, but instead all of it will go back up the impact hole behind the bunker buster, where there is no resistance at all.

Bunker busters work entirely by the projectile penetration, and the explosion is irrelevant to penetration.
They are essentially pile drivers powered by gravity, not explosives.

Fragmentation in air has nothing to do with what an explosion does in solid rock or reinforced concrete.

 

[Rigby5]

Proof is on you

I just proved it.
I pointed out that the Iranians knew the depth of our bunker busters, and deliberately exceeded that.
I also pointed out that we had no idea where the enrichment facilities were once you get down to their depth.
So we had no idea at all where to aim.
Aiming at the entrance would cause inconvenience, but not any real damage.

 

[Rigby5]

No facts supporting you yet

What do you want supported?

He was claiming the secondary low frequency vibrations were the cause of damage from an earthquake, and I was pointing out that these secondary low frequency vibrations are just echos and have less than 1% the energy.
When you have a building collapse from an earthquake, it is from the massive horizontal acceleration that causes the center of mass to be shifted far enough from its supports so that it collapses. A tiny low frequency vibration can't make that happen.
Be specific as to what you want support for?

 

[Rigby5]

Well, yes and -- No.

The Sassanids were overthrown by the Muzzies in the mid-600's. That War hasn't ended. We lost Eastern Rome (Byzantium) to them. And all those lands they claim as their own today? They belonged to the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine).

So when you hear IDIOTS talk out of their asses about how it was originally Arab land -- That is just simply false. They conquered it from Europeans. Greece had it for 350 years, Rome for 450 years, Byzantium for 200 years.

For almost 1,400 years we've been fighitng Muzzies in one form or another. They invaded Europe multiple times and got close to taking it at least once.

The Poles and their Heavy Cavalry, the Winged Hussars, saved our asses in that one. Not sure Western Europe could have stood up to them. More likely, the goat fuckers would have just settled in and got comfortable.

They are NOT nice people. All they know how to do is conquer people weaker than them and enslave them. It's all they've EVER known how to do.

Islam sucks ass. Always has, always will. They are our greatest enemy. Bigly. NOT the Chinese, NOT the Russians..... Goatfuckers.

Totally wrong.
The Arabs were obviously there first and were the natives.
They go back to the Canaanites at Jericho in 8000 BC, the Akkadians in 5000 BC, etc.

The Byzantine Romans were evil invaders and not at all native.
They do not exist until around 100 AD.

And again, you are mixing the Arab Moslems of 600 AD with the later Asian invaders like the Mongols, Moghuls, Turks, Cossacks, Tatars, etc., who were NOT Arabs and were after 1200 AD.

 

[Rigby5]

You'd think they'd get the picture eventually, and give it up.

No one ever gives up in the face of evil.
It just makes them more determined.
Did we make the Vietnamese, Cubans, Afghans, etc., give up?

 

[Meister]

No facts supporting you yet

That's a fact, but he/she/it/furry can make things up to try and
sound legit on the subject.
he/she/it/furry's proof is he/she/it/furry's word on a message board.

 

[jc456]

That's a fact, but he/she/it/furry can make things up to try and
sound legit on the subject.
he/she/it/furry's proof is he/she/it/furry's word on a message board.

Always without receipts