Two America's...

[CowboyTed]

No it’s not.

Give an example.

List of countries by income equality - Wikipedia (look at the CIA Gini)

US is out on its own among the first world countries. The better countries in the world are more equal, they are happier and have less crime...

Socialism trickle up poor, trickle up misery

Sorry but on the happiness Idex

View attachment 507200

Beat France... Well Done... But the top is dominated by Nordic countries who are the least unequal in the world...

I would be more impressed if I seen them in the states, visiting the grand canyon, or yellow stone, but I don't, all I see is japanese citizens


My point is they don't have the money

Maybe because France is the most visited country in the world followed by there neighbours

Top 10 Most Visited Countries in the World

Here are the 10 most visited countries in the world, according to the last issue of the UNWTO World Tourism Barometer - January 2023: France: 48.4 million visitors Mexico: 31.9 million visitors Spain: 31.2 million

travelmedium.com

French generally holiday a lot at home, Spain, Italy or Switzerland...

But if want to compare 1 in 3 French holiday aboard a year.. US is more like 1/12....

So who has the money?

Why would I want to go to France? I could go to a french restaurant anywhere in the united states

Yea, sure... That's a french restaurant...

Is the Irish Pub just stepping into Ireland too?

France is quite a unique country even in Europe... Parisians are so different to the regions...

I am sure the French said they went to America when they went to McDonalds(where they serve beer cause they have freedom)...

Mad bro we don't have to leave the States, to get the best of the best from the world?

That's what makes america great, we are melting pot.

We were the melting pot, now we are a sizzling fajita

We were never a melting pot. There never was any attempt to melt African Americans and native Americans. This made up term by the state, is merely propaganda to deceive dumb Americans.

We were a melting pot, I am Hungarian my wife is Italian, Polish and German meaning my kids are Hungarian, Italian, German and Polish. That is the melting pot defined

Why do you hate America so much? You can leave you know

You know those countries would be covered by less than a half a dozen states in the US....

Not very melting pot...

Actually I know that your post has no meaning to anyone on Earth except you. You will fester in your hate until you die in that hate

I would like to point out, I didn't insult you. I was discussing with you...

Gipper was doing the same...

You have accused us both of hating something or another... Which I think you have to do as you seem to loosing pretty badly...

Let's be clear, you haven't a fucking clue what I hate and don't... But you love to tell everyone else their beliefs.

You tried to make out that French were poor because they don't holiday in US, I showed that they holiday aboard more than Americans and you then tried imply that going to a French Restaurant is the same as going to France. This made you sound untraveled and ignorant of travel especially France.

But hey lets look at what the OP was trying to contrast... Liberals v Conservative... What ever group you subscribe too, you weaken there argument...

Gipper is an insult to humanity

Thanks for showing your ignorance and hate..

By the way Gipper and myself don't always agree but difference we show each other a bit of respect and I genuinely like to hear his point of view..

 

[CowboyTed]

No it’s not.

Give an example.

List of countries by income equality - Wikipedia (look at the CIA Gini)

US is out on its own among the first world countries. The better countries in the world are more equal, they are happier and have less crime...

Socialism trickle up poor, trickle up misery

Sorry but on the happiness Idex

View attachment 507200

Beat France... Well Done... But the top is dominated by Nordic countries who are the least unequal in the world...

I would be more impressed if I seen them in the states, visiting the grand canyon, or yellow stone, but I don't, all I see is japanese citizens


My point is they don't have the money

Maybe because France is the most visited country in the world followed by there neighbours

Top 10 Most Visited Countries in the World

Here are the 10 most visited countries in the world, according to the last issue of the UNWTO World Tourism Barometer - January 2023: France: 48.4 million visitors Mexico: 31.9 million visitors Spain: 31.2 million

travelmedium.com

French generally holiday a lot at home, Spain, Italy or Switzerland...

But if want to compare 1 in 3 French holiday aboard a year.. US is more like 1/12....

So who has the money?

Why would I want to go to France? I could go to a french restaurant anywhere in the united states

Yea, sure... That's a french restaurant...

Is the Irish Pub just stepping into Ireland too?

France is quite a unique country even in Europe... Parisians are so different to the regions...

I am sure the French said they went to America when they went to McDonalds(where they serve beer cause they have freedom)...

Mad bro we don't have to leave the States, to get the best of the best from the world?

That's what makes america great, we are melting pot.

We were the melting pot, now we are a sizzling fajita

We were never a melting pot. There never was any attempt to melt African Americans and native Americans. This made up term by the state, is merely propaganda to deceive dumb Americans.

We were a melting pot, I am Hungarian my wife is Italian, Polish and German meaning my kids are Hungarian, Italian, German and Polish. That is the melting pot defined

Why do you hate America so much? You can leave you know

Lol. Apparently you missed the apparent fact I made.

I missed nothing, African Americans contribute great things to the melting pot of America, delta blues music for example adopted by the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin both. You are the fool that only sees color

You are kind of saying that one of the great thing about black America is that two English Rock bands imitated their style and became multi-millionaire....

Shit, they weren't good enough for White Americans..

Actually I am saying that delta blues is so important that white people adopted it's glory and brought the new style of music to the entire world. All you see is the hate that festers in your sad soul.

As you said a bunch of English guys adopted it... Lets not say white, that would imply white Americans... It was a bunch of liberals from England that did (they would be bigger Commies than the Liberals)...

White boys from America adopted the blues too kiddy

Well we are talking a decade later, by that stage it was world music....

Dan Aykroyd seems to compare Donald Trump supporters to KKK members

Dan Aykroyd called those who criticized “Ghostbusters” actress Leslie Jones on Twitter Donald Trump supporters who are “Active Klan members.”

www.foxnews.com

You seem to use a lot of either Democrats or anti-Trump people to make your point...

 

[Dusty]

No it’s not.

Give an example.

List of countries by income equality - Wikipedia (look at the CIA Gini)

US is out on its own among the first world countries. The better countries in the world are more equal, they are happier and have less crime...

Socialism trickle up poor, trickle up misery

Sorry but on the happiness Idex

View attachment 507200

Beat France... Well Done... But the top is dominated by Nordic countries who are the least unequal in the world...

I would be more impressed if I seen them in the states, visiting the grand canyon, or yellow stone, but I don't, all I see is japanese citizens


My point is they don't have the money

Maybe because France is the most visited country in the world followed by there neighbours

Top 10 Most Visited Countries in the World

Here are the 10 most visited countries in the world, according to the last issue of the UNWTO World Tourism Barometer - January 2023: France: 48.4 million visitors Mexico: 31.9 million visitors Spain: 31.2 million

travelmedium.com

French generally holiday a lot at home, Spain, Italy or Switzerland...

But if want to compare 1 in 3 French holiday aboard a year.. US is more like 1/12....

So who has the money?

Why would I want to go to France? I could go to a french restaurant anywhere in the united states

Yea, sure... That's a french restaurant...

Is the Irish Pub just stepping into Ireland too?

France is quite a unique country even in Europe... Parisians are so different to the regions...

I am sure the French said they went to America when they went to McDonalds(where they serve beer cause they have freedom)...

Mad bro we don't have to leave the States, to get the best of the best from the world?

That's what makes america great, we are melting pot.

We were the melting pot, now we are a sizzling fajita

We were never a melting pot. There never was any attempt to melt African Americans and native Americans. This made up term by the state, is merely propaganda to deceive dumb Americans.

We were a melting pot, I am Hungarian my wife is Italian, Polish and German meaning my kids are Hungarian, Italian, German and Polish. That is the melting pot defined

Why do you hate America so much? You can leave you know

You know those countries would be covered by less than a half a dozen states in the US....

Not very melting pot...

Actually I know that your post has no meaning to anyone on Earth except you. You will fester in your hate until you die in that hate

I would like to point out, I didn't insult you. I was discussing with you...

Gipper was doing the same...

You have accused us both of hating something or another... Which I think you have to do as you seem to loosing pretty badly...

Let's be clear, you haven't a fucking clue what I hate and don't... But you love to tell everyone else their beliefs.

You tried to make out that French were poor because they don't holiday in US, I showed that they holiday aboard more than Americans and you then tried imply that going to a French Restaurant is the same as going to France. This made you sound untraveled and ignorant of travel especially France.

But hey lets look at what the OP was trying to contrast... Liberals v Conservative... What ever group you subscribe too, you weaken there argument...

Gipper is an insult to humanity

Thanks for showing your ignorance and hate..

By the way Gipper and myself don't always agree but difference we show each other a bit of respect and I genuinely like to hear his point of view..

Sorry it pisses you off so badly that I enjoy the blues

Who am I fooling you are an asshole

 

[Dusty]

No it’s not.

Give an example.

List of countries by income equality - Wikipedia (look at the CIA Gini)

US is out on its own among the first world countries. The better countries in the world are more equal, they are happier and have less crime...

Socialism trickle up poor, trickle up misery

Sorry but on the happiness Idex

View attachment 507200

Beat France... Well Done... But the top is dominated by Nordic countries who are the least unequal in the world...

I would be more impressed if I seen them in the states, visiting the grand canyon, or yellow stone, but I don't, all I see is japanese citizens


My point is they don't have the money

Maybe because France is the most visited country in the world followed by there neighbours

Top 10 Most Visited Countries in the World

Here are the 10 most visited countries in the world, according to the last issue of the UNWTO World Tourism Barometer - January 2023: France: 48.4 million visitors Mexico: 31.9 million visitors Spain: 31.2 million

travelmedium.com

French generally holiday a lot at home, Spain, Italy or Switzerland...

But if want to compare 1 in 3 French holiday aboard a year.. US is more like 1/12....

So who has the money?

Why would I want to go to France? I could go to a french restaurant anywhere in the united states

Yea, sure... That's a french restaurant...

Is the Irish Pub just stepping into Ireland too?

France is quite a unique country even in Europe... Parisians are so different to the regions...

I am sure the French said they went to America when they went to McDonalds(where they serve beer cause they have freedom)...

Mad bro we don't have to leave the States, to get the best of the best from the world?

That's what makes america great, we are melting pot.

We were the melting pot, now we are a sizzling fajita

We were never a melting pot. There never was any attempt to melt African Americans and native Americans. This made up term by the state, is merely propaganda to deceive dumb Americans.

We were a melting pot, I am Hungarian my wife is Italian, Polish and German meaning my kids are Hungarian, Italian, German and Polish. That is the melting pot defined

Why do you hate America so much? You can leave you know

Lol. Apparently you missed the apparent fact I made.

I missed nothing, African Americans contribute great things to the melting pot of America, delta blues music for example adopted by the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin both. You are the fool that only sees color

You are kind of saying that one of the great thing about black America is that two English Rock bands imitated their style and became multi-millionaire....

Shit, they weren't good enough for White Americans..

Actually I am saying that delta blues is so important that white people adopted it's glory and brought the new style of music to the entire world. All you see is the hate that festers in your sad soul.

As you said a bunch of English guys adopted it... Lets not say white, that would imply white Americans... It was a bunch of liberals from England that did (they would be bigger Commies than the Liberals)...

White boys from America adopted the blues too kiddy

Well we are talking a decade later, by that stage it was world music....

Dan Aykroyd seems to compare Donald Trump supporters to KKK members

Dan Aykroyd called those who criticized “Ghostbusters” actress Leslie Jones on Twitter Donald Trump supporters who are “Active Klan members.”

www.foxnews.com

You seem to use a lot of either Democrats or anti-Trump people to make your point...

The fact is that under President Trump that more African Americans were employed than at any time in history, and that you hate this fact.

 

[gipper]

No it’s not.

Give an example.

List of countries by income equality - Wikipedia (look at the CIA Gini)

US is out on its own among the first world countries. The better countries in the world are more equal, they are happier and have less crime...

Socialism trickle up poor, trickle up misery

Sorry but on the happiness Idex

View attachment 507200

Beat France... Well Done... But the top is dominated by Nordic countries who are the least unequal in the world...

I would be more impressed if I seen them in the states, visiting the grand canyon, or yellow stone, but I don't, all I see is japanese citizens


My point is they don't have the money

Maybe because France is the most visited country in the world followed by there neighbours

Top 10 Most Visited Countries in the World

Here are the 10 most visited countries in the world, according to the last issue of the UNWTO World Tourism Barometer - January 2023: France: 48.4 million visitors Mexico: 31.9 million visitors Spain: 31.2 million

travelmedium.com

French generally holiday a lot at home, Spain, Italy or Switzerland...

But if want to compare 1 in 3 French holiday aboard a year.. US is more like 1/12....

So who has the money?

Why would I want to go to France? I could go to a french restaurant anywhere in the united states

Yea, sure... That's a french restaurant...

Is the Irish Pub just stepping into Ireland too?

France is quite a unique country even in Europe... Parisians are so different to the regions...

I am sure the French said they went to America when they went to McDonalds(where they serve beer cause they have freedom)...

Mad bro we don't have to leave the States, to get the best of the best from the world?

That's what makes america great, we are melting pot.

We were the melting pot, now we are a sizzling fajita

We were never a melting pot. There never was any attempt to melt African Americans and native Americans. This made up term by the state, is merely propaganda to deceive dumb Americans.

We were a melting pot, I am Hungarian my wife is Italian, Polish and German meaning my kids are Hungarian, Italian, German and Polish. That is the melting pot defined

Why do you hate America so much? You can leave you know

Lol. Apparently you missed the apparent fact I made.

I missed nothing, African Americans contribute great things to the melting pot of America, delta blues music for example adopted by the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin both. You are the fool that only sees color

Clearly you don’t understand the meaning of Melting Pot.

 

[gipper]

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Right, the proof is in the pudding, republicans have been the only party, since Reagan to create and push for corporate tax cuts.
The US went from a creditor nation to a debtor nation and has gone downhill ever since.
The tax cuts, Reagans, both Bush's and Trump's dwarf every single proposal put forth ever.

Guess what? The D potus’ who followed the R potus’ kept the tax cuts. O did and now old Joe has too.

Can we conclude both parties are complicit?

Biden wouldn't get support to kill those tax cuts for everyone...

He does think he can get support for tax increases on the rich...

If he had higher numbers in Congress and Senate he could take on bigger challenges... He has to be realistic..

Excuses for Joe’s failures and criticism for Don’s. Partisans. Ugh!

 

[Dusty]

No it’s not.

Give an example.

List of countries by income equality - Wikipedia (look at the CIA Gini)

US is out on its own among the first world countries. The better countries in the world are more equal, they are happier and have less crime...

Socialism trickle up poor, trickle up misery

Sorry but on the happiness Idex

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Beat France... Well Done... But the top is dominated by Nordic countries who are the least unequal in the world...

I would be more impressed if I seen them in the states, visiting the grand canyon, or yellow stone, but I don't, all I see is japanese citizens


My point is they don't have the money

Maybe because France is the most visited country in the world followed by there neighbours

Top 10 Most Visited Countries in the World

Here are the 10 most visited countries in the world, according to the last issue of the UNWTO World Tourism Barometer - January 2023: France: 48.4 million visitors Mexico: 31.9 million visitors Spain: 31.2 million

travelmedium.com

French generally holiday a lot at home, Spain, Italy or Switzerland...

But if want to compare 1 in 3 French holiday aboard a year.. US is more like 1/12....

So who has the money?

Why would I want to go to France? I could go to a french restaurant anywhere in the united states

Yea, sure... That's a french restaurant...

Is the Irish Pub just stepping into Ireland too?

France is quite a unique country even in Europe... Parisians are so different to the regions...

I am sure the French said they went to America when they went to McDonalds(where they serve beer cause they have freedom)...

Mad bro we don't have to leave the States, to get the best of the best from the world?

That's what makes america great, we are melting pot.

We were the melting pot, now we are a sizzling fajita

We were never a melting pot. There never was any attempt to melt African Americans and native Americans. This made up term by the state, is merely propaganda to deceive dumb Americans.

We were a melting pot, I am Hungarian my wife is Italian, Polish and German meaning my kids are Hungarian, Italian, German and Polish. That is the melting pot defined

Why do you hate America so much? You can leave you know

Lol. Apparently you missed the apparent fact I made.

I missed nothing, African Americans contribute great things to the melting pot of America, delta blues music for example adopted by the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin both. You are the fool that only sees color

Clearly you don’t understand the meaning of Melting Pot.

You are the one who does not understand the melting pot. My children are from 5 countries all melted together. You are the shit in the toilet

 

[Papageorgio]

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Right, the proof is in the pudding, republicans have been the only party, since Reagan to create and push for corporate tax cuts.
The US went from a creditor nation to a debtor nation and has gone downhill ever since.
The tax cuts, Reagans, both Bush's and Trump's dwarf every single proposal put forth ever.

Guess what? The D potus’ who followed the R potus’ kept the tax cuts. O did and now old Joe has too.

Can we conclude both parties are complicit?

Biden wouldn't get support to kill those tax cuts for everyone...

He does think he can get support for tax increases on the rich...

If he had higher numbers in Congress and Senate he could take on bigger challenges... He has to be realistic..

Excuses for Joe’s failures and criticism for Don’s. Partisans. Ugh!

Yep, they line up the excuses and let them fly. The issue is Biden wants to spend way too much and we simply don't have it. He can increase taxes and do whatever he wishes but he is the same as before him, spending money we don't have and he will blame the rich for not paying their "fair share."

 

[Dusty]

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Right, the proof is in the pudding, republicans have been the only party, since Reagan to create and push for corporate tax cuts.
The US went from a creditor nation to a debtor nation and has gone downhill ever since.
The tax cuts, Reagans, both Bush's and Trump's dwarf every single proposal put forth ever.

Guess what? The D potus’ who followed the R potus’ kept the tax cuts. O did and now old Joe has too.

Can we conclude both parties are complicit?

Biden wouldn't get support to kill those tax cuts for everyone...

He does think he can get support for tax increases on the rich...

If he had higher numbers in Congress and Senate he could take on bigger challenges... He has to be realistic..

Excuses for Joe’s failures and criticism for Don’s. Partisans. Ugh!

Yep, they line up the excuses and let them fly. The issue is Biden wants to spend way too much and we simply don't have it. He can increase taxes and do whatever he wishes but he is the same as before him, spending money we don't have and he will blame the rich for not paying their "fair share."

Xiden is not raising taxes at the moment, he is printing fake money that will collapse the USA into communism

 

[Richard-H]

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Right, the proof is in the pudding, republicans have been the only party, since Reagan to create and push for corporate tax cuts.
The US went from a creditor nation to a debtor nation and has gone downhill ever since.
The tax cuts, Reagans, both Bush's and Trump's dwarf every single proposal put forth ever.

Guess what? The D potus’ who followed the R potus’ kept the tax cuts. O did and now old Joe has too.

Can we conclude both parties are complicit?

Biden wouldn't get support to kill those tax cuts for everyone...

He does think he can get support for tax increases on the rich...

If he had higher numbers in Congress and Senate he could take on bigger challenges... He has to be realistic..

Excuses for Joe’s failures and criticism for Don’s. Partisans. Ugh!

Yep, they line up the excuses and let them fly. The issue is Biden wants to spend way too much and we simply don't have it. He can increase taxes and do whatever he wishes but he is the same as before him, spending money we don't have and he will blame the rich for not paying their "fair share."

Xiden is not raising taxes at the moment, he is printing fake money that will collapse the USA into communism

Yet, when banks create money by loaning more than they have, no one seems to care.

Banks create far more money than the U.S. government.

Perhaps what you do not understand is that when the U.S. government or the banks create money, all they are really doing is creating the authority to activate resources.

As long as those resources are well managed, they will create more real wealth than the money originally created.

So the system basically works.

However, the banks get the money that they created back with profit.

The problem with the government is that as long as taxes are low, the government never gets the money back.

It all gets funneled up to the wealthiest 0.01%. If they use it to invest in growth industries, wealth continues to be created.

Otherwise, the economy tightens, no wealth gets created, and the government has to create more money.

 

[Dusty]

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Right, the proof is in the pudding, republicans have been the only party, since Reagan to create and push for corporate tax cuts.
The US went from a creditor nation to a debtor nation and has gone downhill ever since.
The tax cuts, Reagans, both Bush's and Trump's dwarf every single proposal put forth ever.

Guess what? The D potus’ who followed the R potus’ kept the tax cuts. O did and now old Joe has too.

Can we conclude both parties are complicit?

Biden wouldn't get support to kill those tax cuts for everyone...

He does think he can get support for tax increases on the rich...

If he had higher numbers in Congress and Senate he could take on bigger challenges... He has to be realistic..

Excuses for Joe’s failures and criticism for Don’s. Partisans. Ugh!

Yep, they line up the excuses and let them fly. The issue is Biden wants to spend way too much and we simply don't have it. He can increase taxes and do whatever he wishes but he is the same as before him, spending money we don't have and he will blame the rich for not paying their "fair share."

Xiden is not raising taxes at the moment, he is printing fake money that will collapse the USA into communism

Yet, when banks create money by loaning more than they have, no one seems to care.

Banks create far more money than the U.S. government.

Perhaps what you do not understand is that when the U.S. government or the banks create money, all they are really doing is creating the authority to activate resources.

As long as those resources are well managed, they will create more real wealth than the money originally created.

So the system basically works.

However, the banks get the money that they created back with profit.

The problem with the government is that as long as taxes are low, the government never gets the money back.

It all gets funneled up to the wealthiest 0.01%. If they use it to invest in growth industries, wealth continues to be created.

Otherwise, the economy tightens, no wealth gets created, and the government has to create more money.

And the current price for a share of Alphabet Class A is $2484.32.

 

[Wyatt earp]

No it’s not.

Give an example.

List of countries by income equality - Wikipedia (look at the CIA Gini)

US is out on its own among the first world countries. The better countries in the world are more equal, they are happier and have less crime...

Socialism trickle up poor, trickle up misery

Sorry but on the happiness Idex

View attachment 507200

Beat France... Well Done... But the top is dominated by Nordic countries who are the least unequal in the world...

I would be more impressed if I seen them in the states, visiting the grand canyon, or yellow stone, but I don't, all I see is japanese citizens


My point is they don't have the money

Maybe because France is the most visited country in the world followed by there neighbours

Top 10 Most Visited Countries in the World

Here are the 10 most visited countries in the world, according to the last issue of the UNWTO World Tourism Barometer - January 2023: France: 48.4 million visitors Mexico: 31.9 million visitors Spain: 31.2 million

travelmedium.com

French generally holiday a lot at home, Spain, Italy or Switzerland...

But if want to compare 1 in 3 French holiday aboard a year.. US is more like 1/12....

So who has the money?

Why would I want to go to France? I could go to a french restaurant anywhere in the united states

Yea, sure... That's a french restaurant...

Is the Irish Pub just stepping into Ireland too?

France is quite a unique country even in Europe... Parisians are so different to the regions...

I am sure the French said they went to America when they went to McDonalds(where they serve beer cause they have freedom)...

Mad bro we don't have to leave the States, to get the best of the best from the world?

That's what makes america great, we are melting pot.

We were the melting pot, now we are a sizzling fajita

We were never a melting pot. There never was any attempt to melt African Americans and native Americans. This made up term by the state, is merely propaganda to deceive dumb Americans.

We were a melting pot, I am Hungarian my wife is Italian, Polish and German meaning my kids are Hungarian, Italian, German and Polish. That is the melting pot defined

Why do you hate America so much? You can leave you know

Lol. Apparently you missed the apparent fact I made.

I missed nothing, African Americans contribute great things to the melting pot of America, delta blues music for example adopted by the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin both. You are the fool that only sees color

Clearly you don’t understand the meaning of Melting Pot.

You are the one who does not understand the melting pot. My children are from 5 countries all melted together. You are the shit in the toilet

Five children by five different baby daddies ?




Check...you fucking whore

 

[Dusty]

No it’s not.

Give an example.

List of countries by income equality - Wikipedia (look at the CIA Gini)

US is out on its own among the first world countries. The better countries in the world are more equal, they are happier and have less crime...

Socialism trickle up poor, trickle up misery

Sorry but on the happiness Idex

View attachment 507200

Beat France... Well Done... But the top is dominated by Nordic countries who are the least unequal in the world...

I would be more impressed if I seen them in the states, visiting the grand canyon, or yellow stone, but I don't, all I see is japanese citizens


My point is they don't have the money

Maybe because France is the most visited country in the world followed by there neighbours

Top 10 Most Visited Countries in the World

Here are the 10 most visited countries in the world, according to the last issue of the UNWTO World Tourism Barometer - January 2023: France: 48.4 million visitors Mexico: 31.9 million visitors Spain: 31.2 million

travelmedium.com

French generally holiday a lot at home, Spain, Italy or Switzerland...

But if want to compare 1 in 3 French holiday aboard a year.. US is more like 1/12....

So who has the money?

Why would I want to go to France? I could go to a french restaurant anywhere in the united states

Yea, sure... That's a french restaurant...

Is the Irish Pub just stepping into Ireland too?

France is quite a unique country even in Europe... Parisians are so different to the regions...

I am sure the French said they went to America when they went to McDonalds(where they serve beer cause they have freedom)...

Mad bro we don't have to leave the States, to get the best of the best from the world?

That's what makes america great, we are melting pot.

We were the melting pot, now we are a sizzling fajita

We were never a melting pot. There never was any attempt to melt African Americans and native Americans. This made up term by the state, is merely propaganda to deceive dumb Americans.

We were a melting pot, I am Hungarian my wife is Italian, Polish and German meaning my kids are Hungarian, Italian, German and Polish. That is the melting pot defined

Why do you hate America so much? You can leave you know

Lol. Apparently you missed the apparent fact I made.

I missed nothing, African Americans contribute great things to the melting pot of America, delta blues music for example adopted by the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin both. You are the fool that only sees color

Clearly you don’t understand the meaning of Melting Pot.

You are the one who does not understand the melting pot. My children are from 5 countries all melted together. You are the shit in the toilet

Five children by five different baby daddies ?




Check...you fucking whore

LOL my children represent 5 countries, Hungary, Italy, Poland, Germany and the USA

 

[Wyatt earp]

No it’s not.

Give an example.

List of countries by income equality - Wikipedia (look at the CIA Gini)

US is out on its own among the first world countries. The better countries in the world are more equal, they are happier and have less crime...

Socialism trickle up poor, trickle up misery

Sorry but on the happiness Idex

View attachment 507200

Beat France... Well Done... But the top is dominated by Nordic countries who are the least unequal in the world...

I would be more impressed if I seen them in the states, visiting the grand canyon, or yellow stone, but I don't, all I see is japanese citizens


My point is they don't have the money

Maybe because France is the most visited country in the world followed by there neighbours

Top 10 Most Visited Countries in the World

Here are the 10 most visited countries in the world, according to the last issue of the UNWTO World Tourism Barometer - January 2023: France: 48.4 million visitors Mexico: 31.9 million visitors Spain: 31.2 million

travelmedium.com

French generally holiday a lot at home, Spain, Italy or Switzerland...

But if want to compare 1 in 3 French holiday aboard a year.. US is more like 1/12....

So who has the money?

Why would I want to go to France? I could go to a french restaurant anywhere in the united states

Yea, sure... That's a french restaurant...

Is the Irish Pub just stepping into Ireland too?

France is quite a unique country even in Europe... Parisians are so different to the regions...

I am sure the French said they went to America when they went to McDonalds(where they serve beer cause they have freedom)...

Mad bro we don't have to leave the States, to get the best of the best from the world?

That's what makes america great, we are melting pot.

We were the melting pot, now we are a sizzling fajita

We were never a melting pot. There never was any attempt to melt African Americans and native Americans. This made up term by the state, is merely propaganda to deceive dumb Americans.

We were a melting pot, I am Hungarian my wife is Italian, Polish and German meaning my kids are Hungarian, Italian, German and Polish. That is the melting pot defined

Why do you hate America so much? You can leave you know

Lol. Apparently you missed the apparent fact I made.

I missed nothing, African Americans contribute great things to the melting pot of America, delta blues music for example adopted by the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin both. You are the fool that only sees color

Clearly you don’t understand the meaning of Melting Pot.

You are the one who does not understand the melting pot. My children are from 5 countries all melted together. You are the shit in the toilet

Five children by five different baby daddies ?




Check...you fucking whore

LOL my children represent 5 countries, Hungary, Italy, Poland, Germany and the USA

Lmao once again five different baby daddies?



I am laughing my ass off

 

[Dusty]

No it’s not.

Give an example.

List of countries by income equality - Wikipedia (look at the CIA Gini)

US is out on its own among the first world countries. The better countries in the world are more equal, they are happier and have less crime...

Socialism trickle up poor, trickle up misery

Sorry but on the happiness Idex

View attachment 507200

Beat France... Well Done... But the top is dominated by Nordic countries who are the least unequal in the world...

I would be more impressed if I seen them in the states, visiting the grand canyon, or yellow stone, but I don't, all I see is japanese citizens


My point is they don't have the money

Maybe because France is the most visited country in the world followed by there neighbours

Top 10 Most Visited Countries in the World

Here are the 10 most visited countries in the world, according to the last issue of the UNWTO World Tourism Barometer - January 2023: France: 48.4 million visitors Mexico: 31.9 million visitors Spain: 31.2 million

travelmedium.com

French generally holiday a lot at home, Spain, Italy or Switzerland...

But if want to compare 1 in 3 French holiday aboard a year.. US is more like 1/12....

So who has the money?

Why would I want to go to France? I could go to a french restaurant anywhere in the united states

Yea, sure... That's a french restaurant...

Is the Irish Pub just stepping into Ireland too?

France is quite a unique country even in Europe... Parisians are so different to the regions...

I am sure the French said they went to America when they went to McDonalds(where they serve beer cause they have freedom)...

Mad bro we don't have to leave the States, to get the best of the best from the world?

That's what makes america great, we are melting pot.

We were the melting pot, now we are a sizzling fajita

We were never a melting pot. There never was any attempt to melt African Americans and native Americans. This made up term by the state, is merely propaganda to deceive dumb Americans.

We were a melting pot, I am Hungarian my wife is Italian, Polish and German meaning my kids are Hungarian, Italian, German and Polish. That is the melting pot defined

Why do you hate America so much? You can leave you know

Lol. Apparently you missed the apparent fact I made.

I missed nothing, African Americans contribute great things to the melting pot of America, delta blues music for example adopted by the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin both. You are the fool that only sees color

Clearly you don’t understand the meaning of Melting Pot.

You are the one who does not understand the melting pot. My children are from 5 countries all melted together. You are the shit in the toilet

Five children by five different baby daddies ?




Check...you fucking whore

LOL my children represent 5 countries, Hungary, Italy, Poland, Germany and the USA

Lmao once again five different baby daddies?



I am laughing my ass off

Keep laughing because I have two children, and thankfully we do not share anything.

Google is at an all time high of $2494.08, if you owned any you would know this

CIAO

 

[CowboyTed]

No it’s not.

Give an example.

List of countries by income equality - Wikipedia (look at the CIA Gini)

US is out on its own among the first world countries. The better countries in the world are more equal, they are happier and have less crime...

Socialism trickle up poor, trickle up misery

Sorry but on the happiness Idex

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Beat France... Well Done... But the top is dominated by Nordic countries who are the least unequal in the world...

I would be more impressed if I seen them in the states, visiting the grand canyon, or yellow stone, but I don't, all I see is japanese citizens


My point is they don't have the money

Maybe because France is the most visited country in the world followed by there neighbours

Top 10 Most Visited Countries in the World

Here are the 10 most visited countries in the world, according to the last issue of the UNWTO World Tourism Barometer - January 2023: France: 48.4 million visitors Mexico: 31.9 million visitors Spain: 31.2 million

travelmedium.com

French generally holiday a lot at home, Spain, Italy or Switzerland...

But if want to compare 1 in 3 French holiday aboard a year.. US is more like 1/12....

So who has the money?

Why would I want to go to France? I could go to a french restaurant anywhere in the united states

Yea, sure... That's a french restaurant...

Is the Irish Pub just stepping into Ireland too?

France is quite a unique country even in Europe... Parisians are so different to the regions...

I am sure the French said they went to America when they went to McDonalds(where they serve beer cause they have freedom)...

Mad bro we don't have to leave the States, to get the best of the best from the world?

That's what makes america great, we are melting pot.

We were the melting pot, now we are a sizzling fajita

We were never a melting pot. There never was any attempt to melt African Americans and native Americans. This made up term by the state, is merely propaganda to deceive dumb Americans.

We were a melting pot, I am Hungarian my wife is Italian, Polish and German meaning my kids are Hungarian, Italian, German and Polish. That is the melting pot defined

Why do you hate America so much? You can leave you know

Lol. Apparently you missed the apparent fact I made.

I missed nothing, African Americans contribute great things to the melting pot of America, delta blues music for example adopted by the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin both. You are the fool that only sees color

You are kind of saying that one of the great thing about black America is that two English Rock bands imitated their style and became multi-millionaire....

Shit, they weren't good enough for White Americans..

Actually I am saying that delta blues is so important that white people adopted it's glory and brought the new style of music to the entire world. All you see is the hate that festers in your sad soul.

As you said a bunch of English guys adopted it... Lets not say white, that would imply white Americans... It was a bunch of liberals from England that did (they would be bigger Commies than the Liberals)...

White boys from America adopted the blues too kiddy

Well we are talking a decade later, by that stage it was world music....

Dan Aykroyd seems to compare Donald Trump supporters to KKK members

Dan Aykroyd called those who criticized “Ghostbusters” actress Leslie Jones on Twitter Donald Trump supporters who are “Active Klan members.”

www.foxnews.com

You seem to use a lot of either Democrats or anti-Trump people to make your point...

The fact is that under President Trump that more African Americans were employed than at any time in history, and that you hate this fact.

Took a wave set up by Obama and rode it, but where did he leave it..

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Right, the proof is in the pudding, republicans have been the only party, since Reagan to create and push for corporate tax cuts.
The US went from a creditor nation to a debtor nation and has gone downhill ever since.
The tax cuts, Reagans, both Bush's and Trump's dwarf every single proposal put forth ever.

Guess what? The D potus’ who followed the R potus’ kept the tax cuts. O did and now old Joe has too.

Can we conclude both parties are complicit?

Biden wouldn't get support to kill those tax cuts for everyone...

He does think he can get support for tax increases on the rich...

If he had higher numbers in Congress and Senate he could take on bigger challenges... He has to be realistic..

Excuses for Joe’s failures and criticism for Don’s. Partisans. Ugh!

Gipper,
It is basic maths... if Joe had the numbers he would try, that is Joe's intent, Joe would like the taxes on people are progressive rising as you earn. He has pretty much said that... He is not a King with absolute power...
Tump's intent was to cut taxes and those taxes to go to the rich...

So is joe perfect? No. But we can't let the perfect get in the way of the good.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Right, the proof is in the pudding, republicans have been the only party, since Reagan to create and push for corporate tax cuts.
The US went from a creditor nation to a debtor nation and has gone downhill ever since.
The tax cuts, Reagans, both Bush's and Trump's dwarf every single proposal put forth ever.

Guess what? The D potus’ who followed the R potus’ kept the tax cuts. O did and now old Joe has too.

Can we conclude both parties are complicit?

Biden wouldn't get support to kill those tax cuts for everyone...

He does think he can get support for tax increases on the rich...

If he had higher numbers in Congress and Senate he could take on bigger challenges... He has to be realistic..

Excuses for Joe’s failures and criticism for Don’s. Partisans. Ugh!

Yep, they line up the excuses and let them fly. The issue is Biden wants to spend way too much and we simply don't have it. He can increase taxes and do whatever he wishes but he is the same as before him, spending money we don't have and he will blame the rich for not paying their "fair share."

Republicans have whined about the deficit and debt, every time a democrat is in office since Clinton.
AFTER Reagan and Bush exploded both.
Reagan increased the debt by $2.8 trillion.
Bush increased the debt by $1.5 trillion.
Clinton increased the debt by $1.4 trillion
Baby Bush increased the debt $6.1 trillion.
Obama increased the debt by $7.1 trillion.
Trump increased the debt $6.2 trillion.

"Reagan," Vice President Dick Cheney famously declared in 2002, "proved deficits don't matter." Unless, that is, a Democrat is in the White House.

 

[Papageorgio]

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Right, the proof is in the pudding, republicans have been the only party, since Reagan to create and push for corporate tax cuts.
The US went from a creditor nation to a debtor nation and has gone downhill ever since.
The tax cuts, Reagans, both Bush's and Trump's dwarf every single proposal put forth ever.

Guess what? The D potus’ who followed the R potus’ kept the tax cuts. O did and now old Joe has too.

Can we conclude both parties are complicit?

Biden wouldn't get support to kill those tax cuts for everyone...

He does think he can get support for tax increases on the rich...

If he had higher numbers in Congress and Senate he could take on bigger challenges... He has to be realistic..

Excuses for Joe’s failures and criticism for Don’s. Partisans. Ugh!

Yep, they line up the excuses and let them fly. The issue is Biden wants to spend way too much and we simply don't have it. He can increase taxes and do whatever he wishes but he is the same as before him, spending money we don't have and he will blame the rich for not paying their "fair share."

Republicans have whined about the deficit and debt, every time a democrat is in office since Clinton.
AFTER Reagan and Bush exploded both.
Reagan increased the debt by $2.8 trillion.
Bush increased the debt by $1.5 trillion.
Clinton increased the debt by $1.4 trillion
Baby Bush increased the debt $6.1 trillion.
Obama increased the debt by $7.1 trillion.
Trump increased the debt $6.2 trillion.

"Reagan," Vice President Dick Cheney famously declared in 2002, "proved deficits don't matter." Unless, that is, a Democrat is in the White House.

Yep, they are all the same, thanks for proving the point. I have disliked the the debt and it didn’t matter who was President. Do you think adding to the debt is doing us any good? Does debt matter?

 

[gipper]

No it’s not.

Give an example.

List of countries by income equality - Wikipedia (look at the CIA Gini)

US is out on its own among the first world countries. The better countries in the world are more equal, they are happier and have less crime...

Socialism trickle up poor, trickle up misery

Sorry but on the happiness Idex

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Beat France... Well Done... But the top is dominated by Nordic countries who are the least unequal in the world...

I would be more impressed if I seen them in the states, visiting the grand canyon, or yellow stone, but I don't, all I see is japanese citizens


My point is they don't have the money

Maybe because France is the most visited country in the world followed by there neighbours

Top 10 Most Visited Countries in the World

Here are the 10 most visited countries in the world, according to the last issue of the UNWTO World Tourism Barometer - January 2023: France: 48.4 million visitors Mexico: 31.9 million visitors Spain: 31.2 million

travelmedium.com

French generally holiday a lot at home, Spain, Italy or Switzerland...

But if want to compare 1 in 3 French holiday aboard a year.. US is more like 1/12....

So who has the money?

Why would I want to go to France? I could go to a french restaurant anywhere in the united states

Yea, sure... That's a french restaurant...

Is the Irish Pub just stepping into Ireland too?

France is quite a unique country even in Europe... Parisians are so different to the regions...

I am sure the French said they went to America when they went to McDonalds(where they serve beer cause they have freedom)...

Mad bro we don't have to leave the States, to get the best of the best from the world?

That's what makes america great, we are melting pot.

We were the melting pot, now we are a sizzling fajita

We were never a melting pot. There never was any attempt to melt African Americans and native Americans. This made up term by the state, is merely propaganda to deceive dumb Americans.

We were a melting pot, I am Hungarian my wife is Italian, Polish and German meaning my kids are Hungarian, Italian, German and Polish. That is the melting pot defined

Why do you hate America so much? You can leave you know

Lol. Apparently you missed the apparent fact I made.

I missed nothing, African Americans contribute great things to the melting pot of America, delta blues music for example adopted by the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin both. You are the fool that only sees color

You are kind of saying that one of the great thing about black America is that two English Rock bands imitated their style and became multi-millionaire....

Shit, they weren't good enough for White Americans..

Actually I am saying that delta blues is so important that white people adopted it's glory and brought the new style of music to the entire world. All you see is the hate that festers in your sad soul.

As you said a bunch of English guys adopted it... Lets not say white, that would imply white Americans... It was a bunch of liberals from England that did (they would be bigger Commies than the Liberals)...

White boys from America adopted the blues too kiddy

Well we are talking a decade later, by that stage it was world music....

Dan Aykroyd seems to compare Donald Trump supporters to KKK members

Dan Aykroyd called those who criticized “Ghostbusters” actress Leslie Jones on Twitter Donald Trump supporters who are “Active Klan members.”

www.foxnews.com

You seem to use a lot of either Democrats or anti-Trump people to make your point...

The fact is that under President Trump that more African Americans were employed than at any time in history, and that you hate this fact.

Took a wave set up by Obama and rode it, but where did he leave it..

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Those who seek to divide us for their own gain are winning.
And we're playing along, like obedient little bunnies.

And you are one of them

You're free to explain!

LOL the fact is that you feel entitled to an explanation that I as a free American do not owe you.

But you keep waiting and eating your popcorn fatty

Exactly what Trump thinks.

Hillary Clinton: “The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax.”
Donald Trump: “That makes me smart.”

Such a "patriot".

Was it legal? Yes. End of discussion.

The IRS is still auditing his returns, 5 years later, so who knows.
The SDNY is investigating, we will find out.

Wrong the IRS has audited Trump for the last 30 years and never found anything, but you keep on lubing your anus with KY

So, the SDNY has the tax dodger's, crooked tax returns now.
Keep lubing your anus with Trump's orange lube.

Again the IRS always had those returns under Obama and Clinton and found nothing wrong. See kid poor slobs like you break the law, Trump is not smarter than you he is smarter than you can even imagine. So have you ever legally made 1 to 100 million dollars a day?

So again NY has nothing except Andrew Mengele Cuomos murdered nursing home residents

Is that what the lying moron claimed?
The grifter may have laundered that much, for Russia.

Clinton and Obama released their tax returns.
The lying, orange tax dodger never did.

Keep dreaming and while you are dreaming pretend that you are not the moron who wants to pay more taxes.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then sweep out the trailer

"Want to pay more taxes"?

It isn't a choice, idiot, I just do, every single year, thanks to tax dodgers, like Trump.

The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said.

Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Trump takes legal loopholes that Congress writes in there. Every rich person out there spends money to save on paying taxes. Warren Buffet spends millions, you want to know why because the millions he spends saves him more otherwise he wouldn’t do it.

The problem isn’t the rich, it is those that write the laws that benefit the rich. The rich take the legal deductions that Congress allows. So you want to blame anyone for paying more in taxes and the rich paying less, talk to your Congressma. The rich writing the laws for the rich, that is how we got here today.

Remember Buffet touting they needed to raise the income taxes on the rich? He is the deal, he was pushing for higher taxes on earned income, not unearned income. Unearned income is where are the lucrative tax deductions are, earned income is for most of America. When Biden spouts that he wants to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, he says nothing about tightening and eliminating deductions and that is where the rich have it over the rest of Americans.

The two parties have worked well over the decades to protect and grow our money. Obama was president over the greatest transfer of wealth in American history, it was recently topped by Trump during the pandemic and now it is going to be dwarfed this year under Biden. It doesn’t matter who is President or who is in Congress, the rich are for the rich not you or I.

At least Biden is trying to help the middle class and working people.
So did Obama.
Trump didn't even try.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.
The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

We will see if Trump took "legal" loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

At least? At least? You only believe what the press tells you, got it.

The tax cuts did nothing to transfer wealth. Remember Obama’s too big to fail? The veto proof TARP was the greatest transfer of wealth at that time. Then he promised he’d go after the rich that got us to that point? Never happened.

Then last year under the veto proof CARES act, became what was then the greatest transfer of wealth, again the American people got the leftover bones to pick the meat off of and the rich took everything else. Then Biden signed the next round of CARES that wasn’t really needed but guess again, what he signed was the greatest transfer of wealth of all time. Most of this round went to the rich. We did get more scraps but the bulk went to the rich.

it you are happy because Obama and Biden at least tired to help the middle class and poor.

If you are okay with these power of wealth transfers because at least you fell someone is trying , you are exactly who the rich and the two parties love.

Me I want real change and real transfer of wealth back to the American people, not the rues that taxing the rich will solve everything. Not felling good because we fell a politician is at least pretending to try. Partisans are all pretty stupid when they yell, “but the other guy”.

So you do not believe the press. Then where do you get your info?

Let me clarify, I dont take what one source says at face value. I read MSM and then slightly left and right views. Then use logic to try to get the real story. Smokin seems to believe that the Trump tax cuts were a great transfer of wealth, they weren’t if fact it made no dent in the rich getting richer. It wasn’t true. He believed what he was fed by the press.

So, you believe Trump?

“Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what's happening,” he said. “Just stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people — the fake news.”​

Yeah, the beacon of TRUTH.​

Where did I say that and how in the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? It seems you believed Trump, I went by actual events. Trumps tax cuts did not make the rich that much richer. TARP and the CARES made the rich a lot richer. Guess who in Congress passed it? It was Democrats and Republicans, those are the two parties responsible for the greatest transfers in wealth in human history. Your BS that Biden at least tried is utter BS. He threw us bread crumbs and the rest of them dined on Caviar, steak and lobster. You have been conned and you are happy about it.

Not according to Trump, he bragged about it.
December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

President Donald Trump and others in the administration have been making the “largest tax cut” claim for months. We wrote about a Trump-for-president campaign committee TV ad that made the claim in May. The president made the boast again on Sept. 27, the day the White House and GOP leaders released the framework of their tax plan, and, among many other examples, he repeated it on Twitter on Oct. 18, saying: “Hopefully, all Senate Republicans will vote for the largest Tax Cuts in U.S. history.” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders tweeted the talking point 10 days later.
$1.5 trillion.
TARP-$700 billion.

As of 2018, TARP didn't cost the taxpayers anything. Instead, the Treasury received $3 billion more than the $439.6 billion it disbursed. Of that, $376.4 billion was repaid by the banks, auto companies, and AIG.


The U.S. Treasury made a profit of $66.2 billion from these companies because it bought shares of the companies when prices were low and sold them when prices were high. The Treasury made $5 billion on its TARP fund investment in AIG alone.

You got conned by an orange, retard.

So you believe what Trump says and not actual facts. Thanks. If the $700 billion were all the actually got, you may have a point but it did so much more than just move $700 billion, it was much, much worse and it fundamentally changed the divide so that it could not close the gap. Now, you can believe whatever Trump said but the facts don’t agree with you and again you are duped by Trump, what a big surprise.

Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker

Dean Baker: The notion that without the $700bn bailout we would be reduced to bartering was a ruse by the banks to get taxpayers' money

www.theguardian.com

A Tale of Two Recoveries: Wealth Inequality After the Great Recession

Economic inequality has long been a fact of American life. And for many years, a certain level of inequality was accepted, even encouraged, as

tcf.org

Secret and Lies of the Bailout

The federal rescue of Wall Street didn’t fix the economy – it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst

www.rollingstone.com

The CARES Act is much worse, and TARP set it up, and because we got breads crumbs, you are happy. We again have been duped and we don’t even know how badly the Republicans and Democrats screwed us over. We are so happy we got unemployment relief and $ 3200 in stimulus. We are really damn stupid. Now gone on and defend your petty partisan BS politics while we are blindly being robbed.

Right, the proof is in the pudding, republicans have been the only party, since Reagan to create and push for corporate tax cuts.
The US went from a creditor nation to a debtor nation and has gone downhill ever since.
The tax cuts, Reagans, both Bush's and Trump's dwarf every single proposal put forth ever.

Guess what? The D potus’ who followed the R potus’ kept the tax cuts. O did and now old Joe has too.

Can we conclude both parties are complicit?

Biden wouldn't get support to kill those tax cuts for everyone...

He does think he can get support for tax increases on the rich...

If he had higher numbers in Congress and Senate he could take on bigger challenges... He has to be realistic..

Excuses for Joe’s failures and criticism for Don’s. Partisans. Ugh!

Gipper,
It is basic maths... if Joe had the numbers he would try, that is Joe's intent, Joe would like the taxes on people are progressive rising as you earn. He has pretty much said that... He is not a King with absolute power...
Tump's intent was to cut taxes and those taxes to go to the rich...

So is joe perfect? No. But we can't let the perfect get in the way of the good.

Joe’s a disaster no different from Don. You know how I know this? HE HAS BEEN IN DC 50 FUCKING YEARS AND SUCKED THE WHOLE TIME.

 

[badger2]

I just knew you were going to talk about Obama, the only black man who became Potus of the US, and you denigrate him.

How dare a black man is Potus in a white mans house. I know all about the tea party!!!

No, you and many others were duped. Obama is Arab, not black African. There has never been a black POTUS.