Trump wins again. Anonymous billionaire steps up to make sure military gets paid during shutdown

[Winco]

So, you are unwilling to set aside your hatred for Trump even just long enough for the children of military service people to be able to afford school lunches and to enjoy thanksgiving with family, instead of at the soup kitchen?

My Daughter and Son-In-Law are in the Military.
They are in their early 30's, and nowhere NEAR a soup Kitchen.

Yes, I support the Military 100%.

 

[CrazyTrader55]

Two things about that. 1. Do the math on how much each member of the military will get. 2. Any money donated to the government must go by law to the Treasury Department for disbursement, not to Generalissimo Dotard. It's against the law for him to accept it.

Stomp your feet all you want, the troops will be paid and conservatives will keep this f***ing government shut down forever, until the Democrats come to the table and compromise.

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

Stomp your feet all you want, the troops will be paid and conservatives will keep this f***ing government shut down forever, until the Democrats come to the table and compromise.

When will they be paid?

 

[berg80]

So, you are unwilling to set aside your hatred for Trump even just long enough for the children of military service people to be able to afford school lunches and to enjoy thanksgiving with family, instead of at the soup kitchen?

AI Overview

The Antideficiency Act is a U.S. law that prohibits federal government officers and employees from spending or obligating funds in advance of or in excess of an appropriation. Its purpose is to prevent agencies from spending money they don't have and to enforce Congressional power over the budget. Violations can lead to administrative penalties and, for willful and knowing violations, criminal sanctions, including fines and imprisonment.

Is there any particular reason you have decided following the rule of law has become an unnecessary, quaint notion for the regime other than your cultish devotion to Dear Leader?

 

[berg80]

Stomp your feet all you want, the troops will be paid and conservatives will keep this f***ing government shut down forever, until the Democrats come to the table and compromise.

How Trump Violated the Law to Pay the Military​

How Trump Violated the Law to Pay the Military

The president spent research and development money to pay the troops, violating appropriations law and a slew of other statutes.

www.lawfaremedia.org

It has become far too easy for you cultists to excuse black letter violations of law only because your devotion to Dotard knows no bounds.

 

[IM2]

Stomp your feet all you want, the troops will be paid and conservatives will keep this f***ing government shut down forever, until the Democrats come to the table and compromise.

Republicans are the ones who won't come to the table. They are on vacation. Meanwhile, the President is playing golf, building a fancy ballroom, and demanding that taxpayers give him 230 million dollars.

 

[berg80]

Democrats want Americans to suffer.

In mid-October, military personnel received their pay, just as they would have for any other pay period. The occasion, however, was notable for one reason: The federal government shutdown had left no usable money in the budget account to finance these payments.

How, then, were the troops paid?

The answer is troubling. To make these payments, President Trump used research and development (R&D) money that the Department of Defense had left over from last fiscal year—an action that was patently illegal.

In addition to being illegal, the move was also unnecessary. There is overwhelming support in Congress to enact legislation to pay the military. But instead of taking the legal, straightforward path to paying the troops (as in the 2013 Obama shutdown, when a law was enacted to pay the troops on the eve of the shutdown), the Trump administration opted for an illegal strategy because Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) had adjourned the House of Representatives on Sept. 19, sending its members home and refusing to reopen the House for business. (Note that no action was required to pay the military during either the 1995 Clinton shutdown or the 2018-2019 Trump shutdown because in each case the defense appropriations bill had already been enacted.)

GFY.

 

[Greenbeard]

Let the shutdown continue, until the Democrats decide to compromise. Otherwise, let's keep it going forever.

Has anyone even noticed that the government is shut down?
I certainly haven't.

There's a new sheriff in town - his name is Donald Trump.

Okay, but what is Putin getting for his $130M?

 

[CrazyTrader55]

How Trump Violated the Law to Pay the Military​

How Trump Violated the Law to Pay the Military

The president spent research and development money to pay the troops, violating appropriations law and a slew of other statutes.

www.lawfaremedia.org

It has become far too easy for you cultists to excuse black letter violations of law only because your devotion to Dotard knows no bounds.

Trump can break all the laws he wants after what we witnessed between 2021 and 2025; election fraud in 2020 and then a wide open border the next 4 years with an executive branch that refused to uphold immigration law, and in fact, did everything they could to encourage the entire world to come in, and then allowed sanctuary cities and states. In other words, the executive branch decided that the law didn't matter.

Oh yeah: GFY

 

[IM2]

Trump can break all the laws he wants after what we witnessed between 2021 and 2025; election fraud in 2020 and then a wide open border the next 4 years with an executive branch that refused to uphold immigration law, and in fact, did everything they could to encourage law breaking.

Oh yeah: GFY

None of those things happened and:

“In fiscal year 2017, the last year of the Obama administration and the first of Trump’s, 303,916 migrants were arrested by the Border Patrol. This was the lowest level in more than three decades. The Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations had worked hard to tackle the problem of illegal migration through substantial increases in border security staffing, improvements in technology, innovations in strategy and improved security coordination and assistance to Mexico. Coupled with improved economic conditions in Mexico, these administrations were hugely successful in deterring and breaking the cycle of illegal crossing: Unlawful Mexican economic immigration, which had historically been the primary immigration enforcement issue at the border, dropped nearly 90 percent between 2000 and 2016.”

So how did border crossings go from a 40-year low to a crisis in 4 years? Alan Bersin, former Commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection/Assistant Secretary and Chief diplomatic officer for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Nate Bruggeman, Fomer Policy Staff for the Department of Homeland Security and Customs and Border Protection, and Ben Rohrbaugh former Director for Enforcement and Border Security at the National Security Council, wrote an article published in Politico on April 5, 2019 titled: Yes, There’s a Crisis on the Border. And It’s Trump’s Fault. In this article, the authors argue that President Trump's singular focus on constructing a border wall—regarded as a vanity project—rather than addressing and reforming the asylum system contributed to the challenges at the border witnessed during President Biden's term.

“Despite the administration’s attempts to shift blame for the chaos, make no mistake: It is Donald Trump himself who is responsible. Through misguided policies, political stunts and a failure of leadership, the president has created the conditions that allowed the asylum problem at the border to explode into a crisis. The solution to our current border troubles lies in reforming the U.S. asylum system and immigration courts and helping Central America address its challenges—not in a “big beautiful” wall or shutting down the border. Yet effective action on these issues has been missing. And the president has now so poisoned the political well with his approach that there is little hope of meaningful congressional action until after the next election. Unless the administration changes course, the immigration crisis will only continue to worsen.”

These words were written nearly 2 years before Biden was sworn into office on January 20th, 2021. The COVID pandemic was undoubtedly a major concern beginning in 2020; however, when running for President, you are declaring to the nation that you can manage multiple complex issues simultaneously. Donald Trump was warned in 2019 that he needed to change the focus of his immigration policy and did not.

Alan Bersin, Nate Bruggeman, Ben Rohrbaugh, Yes, There’s a Crisis on the Border. And It’s Trump’s Fault. Politico, April 5, 2019 https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/05/border-crisis-donald-trump-226573/

Stop watching Fox News.

 

[Seymour Flops]

My Daughter and Son-In-Law are in the Military.
They are in their early 30's, and nowhere NEAR a soup Kitchen.

Yes, I support the Military 100%.

So, what lesson am I to take from that?

"Winco's military kids have enough savings that they are not living paycheck to paycheck, therefore it is fine to not pay our troops?"

"I actually accept that argument, if you will here and now agree to generalize it thusly: Seymour Flops kids would be able to feed their chidren with no strain even if there were no such thing as SNAP, WIC, or AFDC, so therefore it is fine to end those programs."

Agreed?

 

[Seymour Flops]

AI Overview

The Antideficiency Act is a U.S. law that prohibits federal government officers and employees from spending or obligating funds in advance of or in excess of an appropriation. Its purpose is to prevent agencies from spending money they don't have and to enforce Congressional power over the budget. Violations can lead to administrative penalties and, for willful and knowing violations, criminal sanctions, including fines and imprisonment.

Is there any particular reason you have decided following the rule of law has become an unnecessary, quaint notion for the regime other than your cultish devotion to Dear Leader?

The law requires also that congress pass spending bills. You seem fine with OAC, Jeffries and Schumer preventing that from happening.

When our military is not paid due to a minority political party that has openly expressed a desire that people suffer so that minority can have "leverage," that is an emergency that the executive must respond to.

Clear it up in court later on, but do not starve the children of our service people in the meantime. As of now, no controlling legal authority or any case whatsoever has said that what Trump did was any violation of law whatsoever.

Let your hate go, just long enough to applaud Trump for finding a way.

 

[Mac1958]

It has become far too easy for you cultists to excuse black letter violations of law only because your devotion to Dotard knows no bounds.

And again, I have to wonder how desperate a group of people has to be to just toss aside all laws, rules, standards, morals and decency like this. The voices they trust did this to them.

And they still think that Trump -- the leader of the new Gilded Age -- is doing this for them.

Incredible.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Let the shutdown continue, until the Democrats decide to compromise. Otherwise, let's keep it going forever.

Has anyone even noticed that the government is shut down?
I certainly haven't.

There's a new sheriff in town - his name is Donald Trump.

And I'm sure this "billionaire" did it out of the goodness of their heart.....and if you believe that, I have some land for sale in Utah for you...I swear, I own it.

I'm sure it was quid pro quo. At some point in the future, there will some influence peddling asked for.

 

[CrazyTrader55]

And again, I have to wonder how desperate a group of people has to be to just toss aside all laws, rules, standards, morals and decency like this. The voices they trust did this to them.

And they still think that Trump -- the leader of the new Gilded Age -- is doing this for them.

Incredible.

I don't care why Trump closed the border.
I just care that he closed it.

 

[my2¢]

While large and unusual, the gift amounts to a small contribution toward the billions needed to cover service member paychecks. The Trump administration told Congress last week that it used $6.5 billion to make payroll. The next payday is coming within the week, and it is unclear if the administration will again move money around to ensure the military does not go without compensation.

Read more at: Pentagon accepts $130 million donation to help pay military during government shutdown
Source - Stars and Stripes

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Our soldiers and other essential federal workers are on the job going without pay while the House gets their paycheck while sitting on its ass. Impasse or not, there are certainly other matters the House can attend to. Their self-centered attitude is sickening.

 

[Seymour Flops]

And I'm sure this "billionaire" did it out of the goodness of their heart.....and if you believe that, I have some land for sale in Utah for you...I swear, I own it.

I'm sure it was quid pro quo. At some point in the future, there will some influence peddling asked for.

Which will be a FIRST in U.S. politics!

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Which will be a FIRST in U.S. politics!

And I continually love that you members of Alt-Right Nation excoriate it when it's a Democrat....but excuse it when it's one of yours.

 

[Seymour Flops]

And I continually love that you members of Alt-Right Nation excoriate it when it's a Democrat....but excuse it when it's one of yours.

And you far left whackos excoriate it when it's a Republican and ignore it when it is one of yours.

We could do this all day . . .

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

And you far left whackos excoriate it when it's a Republican and ignore it when it is one of yours.

We could do this all day . . .

The problem with that son....is that it is a CONSTANT on the right hand side of the aisle.
Don't waste my with the whole "both sides" crap.

You openly supporting corruption and grift.
You got no leg to stand on.