Trump unveils the new AF-1, the Qatari gift 747, should it go to Trump['s library or stay AF-1? (Poll)

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What if it were used for “affordable housing”? Would that change your derisions?

If the fat orange rapist ever wanted to do that, he would have.

Might as well as if it's okay if it were a zoo for unicorns and leprechauns.

 

[kyzr]

Nope. “It’s gonna be most likely a hotel, you know? This concept could be office, but it’s most likely gonna be a hotel with a beautiful building underneath and a 747 Air Force One in the lobby,” And below is a video released by Trump. WW
Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article315256318.html#storylink=cpy

I like that it shows one of the old 747s and not the new upgraded Qatari "gift" VC-25b

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I like that it shows one of the old 747s and not the new upgraded Qatari "gift" VC-25b

Well.of course, it's AI generated.

 

[Nostra]

This is what is going on with the crooked Man of Lawlessness....


Was Congress required to give permission for the president to receive the $400 million jet from Qatar?

No congressional permission was obtained, which sparked intense legal and political debate.
The Foreign Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution strictly prohibits government officials from accepting gifts from foreign states without the "Consent of the Congress." Critics and House Democrats argued that the gift explicitly violated this clause and introduced resolutions demanding the administration seek formal approval.
However, the Trump administration bypassed Congress by having the Department of Defense formally accept the Boeing 747 as a gift to the United States government—rather than a personal gift to the president. The Pentagon and the Air Force maintained that the aircraft was processed and accepted in accordance with federal rules regarding foreign donations to the military, operating it as an official government asset to serve as a temporary "bridge" aircraft for Air Force One.


But isn't Trump going to take this new Qatari airplane with him and put it in his library after we spent almost a billion on it? 400 million to a billion.




Yes, that is the stated plan, and it has caused significant controversy.
Donald Trump has confirmed that after serving as a temporary "bridge" Air Force One during his second term, the Qatari jet will be decommissioned and transferred to his future presidential library. He has pointed to Ronald Reagan’s presidential library—which famously features a retired Air Force One on display—as the precedent for this move.
The logic behind the plan, according to the administration, is that the plane was accepted by the Department of Defense as a gift to the United States government, not to Trump personally. Because it is a government asset, the administration argues it can legally be transferred to the library foundation as a museum piece when his term ends.
However, critics and legal experts have pointed out several major issues with this setup:
Taxpayer-Funded Upgrades: The $400 million plane was upgraded and outfitted with heavy military-grade communications and security systems to meet presidential standards, adding significant taxpayer costs onto the "free" gift.
The Post-Presidency Loophole: Ethics watchdog groups and congressional Democrats argue that once the plane is transferred to Trump's private presidential library foundation, it could create a massive loophole allowing him or his foundation to continue utilizing the luxury aircraft post-presidency.
So while the administration maintains it is legally structured as a donation to a federal museum project, critics view the setup as a way to bypass both the Foreign Emoluments Clause and standard government asset disposal laws.

….”critics view”…….

Hehe.

 

[Concerned American]

1. Why decommission a new recently upgraded VC-25b when we taxpayers can get use out of it for many years?

2. Why not give Trump's library one of the 40-year old "retired" 747s?

Look at it as a US taxpayer.

Considering the time line of when the new planes are to be delivered, Trump won't be in office. I see it as much ado about nothing at this point. More democrat woulda coulda shoulda. Trump's GONNA DO THIS or Trump's GONNA DO THAT. They don't even know who's going to be in office at that time.

 

[Concerned American]

No way in hell should a commercial hotel (which is what Trump plans for his "Library") have an AF-1 in it.

WW

Case in point. TRUMP'S GONNA EXTINGUISH THE SUN!!!!!!

 

[konradv]

And what services are you talking about? Or is that just some talking point you get from the morons at RawStory?

The emirs don’t give away planes for nothing. Only the Trump Crime Family knows the bottom line.

 

[Nostra]

The emirs don’t give away planes for nothing. Only the Trump Crime Family knows the bottom line.

So, you don’t know shit, but you know shit.

 

[kyzr]

Considering the time line of when the new planes are to be delivered, Trump won't be in office. I see it as much ado about nothing at this point. More democrat woulda coulda shoulda. Trump's GONNA DO THIS or Trump's GONNA DO THAT. They don't even know who's going to be in office at that time.

The two new Boeing planes are scheduled to be delivered in 2028, Trump will still be in office.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Considering the time line of when the new planes are to be delivered, Trump won't be in office. I see it as much ado about nothing at this point. More democrat woulda coulda shoulda. Trump's GONNA DO THIS or Trump's GONNA DO THAT. They don't even know who's going to be in office at that time.

Think about it, the OBAMA center JUST OPENED….nearly 10 years after he left office.

So the Trump library may open in like 2038? And this plane may go there?

Talk about a nothingburger to tweak over.

 

[Concerned American]

The two new Boeing planes are scheduled to be delivered in 2028, Trump will still be in office.

Sure -- and the original delivery date was in 2024.

 

[konradv]

So, you don’t know shit, but you know shit.

I know Trump.

 

[Care4all]

Did Congress authorize the transfer of the 707 AF1 to Reagan's library? How about the other one in the AF Museum? Doesn't Qatar's wishes matter?

Was the 707 AF1 an emolument from a foreign country?

Absolute!y NOT! Qatar's wishes do NOT MATTER. The gift to Trump, which he asked Qatar for in the first place, is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.....breaks all emolument clauses.

Crooked Trump is playing a slight of hand etc., to get around that un-constitutionality....

Did Reagan do that with the plane in his Library? Get a payoff from a foreign government?

Are you just jerking everyone around with your comments and support on this???

 

[candycorn]

Qatar gave the new jet to the US or Trump? I thought the "emoluments clause" says the president can't accept gifts?

I thought we went thru this discussion already?

If the US taxpayers paid for all the security upgrades the new jet should become AF-1, not Trump's private jet.

Trump can have one of the 40-year old 747s for his library, but the new jet should be AF-1for a while, shouldn't it?

Trump unveils the new Air Force One, a converted Qatari jet

The gift from Qatar is serving as a so-called "bridge" aircraft to carry the president until the new planes ordered directly from Boeing arrive.

www.cnbc.com

"The administration formally accepted a luxury Boeing 747 jet from Qatar last year to be used as the presidential airplane, despite questions about the ethics and legality of accepting such an expensive gift from a foreign government. Trump has insisted in the past that he would not fly around in the Qatari jet once he leaves office and said it would instead be donated to a future presidential library."

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Park it outside of his library...a hurricane will take it out eventually along with all the other rubbish from this dark chapter in our history....

 

[kyzr]

Park it outside of his library...a hurricane will take it out eventually along with all the other rubbish from this dark chapter in our history....

Maybe you haven't seen this video, I like that it shows one of the 40-year old AF-1s and NOT the new VC-25b that was gifted from Qatar inside the library.

 

[candycorn]

Maybe you haven't seen this video, I like that it shows one of the 40-year old AF-1s and NOT the new VC-25b that was gifted from Qatar inside the library.

Good to see the blob is staying true to form....

Reagan already had done this in his beautiful library in Simi Valley.

PS: Is there a video of the blob’s library declaring bankruptcy yet?

 

[Care4all]

Park it outside of his library...a hurricane will take it out eventually along with all the other rubbish from this dark chapter in our history....

You don't think he would actually have the plane in an enclosed building with no way out, for his use?

AND

Where will it be stored by Trump for the 5 to 9 years it could take building the Library....???

Maybe he could just pay back the tax payers for the $400 million to $1 billion it cost us to retrofit it with all the bells and whistles and luxury he specifically wanted, and then take it with him?

 

[ColonelAngus]

Maybe you TDS HONKS can volunteer your services to BOEING so they can finish the new AF1 that is 4 years behind schedule.

IF BOEING KEPT THEIR PROMISED TIMELINE, THE GIFT FROM QATAR WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY.

 

[candycorn]

You don't think he would actually have the plane in an enclosed building with no way out, for his use?

Yes I do. Here is why.

The blob is a cheapskate.

If he’s planning on continuing the grift tour after he oozes out of office, its not useful for that purpose.

It costs a lot to operate a 747 compared to the defunct 757 he already has.

It can only be landed at certain airports. Few places in rural America have that sort of airport. If you’re going to want to play in front of the yokels and can’t use air force bases, you have to have a plane small enough to get into possum hollar. A 747 can’t do that.

Just 2 of the reasons...

AND

Where will it be stored by Trump for the 5 to 9 years it could take building the Library....???

Good question. I recall seeing a story about how Reagan got AF1 for his library but I don’t remember much about it.

Maybe he could just pay back the tax payers for the $400 million to $1 billion it cost us to retrofit it with all the bells and whistles and luxury he specifically wanted, and then take it with him?

Trump...pay back.... wake up; you’re dreaming.

 

[Dragonlady]

Qatar gave the new jet to the US or Trump? I thought the "emoluments clause" says the president can't accept gifts?

I thought we went thru this discussion already?

If the US taxpayers paid for all the security upgrades the new jet should become AF-1, not Trump's private jet.

Trump can have one of the 40-year old 747s for his library, but the new jet should be AF-1for a while, shouldn't it?

Trump unveils the new Air Force One, a converted Qatari jet

The gift from Qatar is serving as a so-called "bridge" aircraft to carry the president until the new planes ordered directly from Boeing arrive.

www.cnbc.com

"The administration formally accepted a luxury Boeing 747 jet from Qatar last year to be used as the presidential airplane, despite questions about the ethics and legality of accepting such an expensive gift from a foreign government. Trump has insisted in the past that he would not fly around in the Qatari jet once he leaves office and said it would instead be donated to a future presidential library."

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When are you going to realize that this plane is a BRIBE Trump solicited from the Amir of Qatar?