Trump Reportedly Is Set To Accept A Jet From Qatar’s Ruling Family For Possible Use As Air Force One

[Vrenn]

CNN - Long-delayed next Air Force One jets from Boeing might now be delivered by 2027 — in time for President Donald Trump to use them, according to a top Air Force official.

And it's been delayed. Chances are, they won't be delivered until 2028 or 2029.

While that’s still years behind the original delivery date of 2022, it’s one to two years earlier than Boeing had most recently predicted.

Care to give a cite on that one? The earliest it can be done is 2027 and then it still won't be flyable until it's completely rung out. I predict it won't happen before 2028 for the first time it's actually going to receive call sign Air Force One.

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Boeing’s $3.9 billion contract to replace the two Air Force One jets has become an expensive and embarrassing albatross. Boeing has reported losses totaling $2.5 billion already on the program, known as VC-25B, since it agreed to be responsible for what has become soaring cost overruns.

Educate us and give references. I am curious.

There are multiple reasons for the delay in delivery. After signing the original contract in 2017, Boeing began refurbishing two 747 jets in February 2020 that it had built for another customer but never delivered because of that customer’s bankruptcy — a process that in hindsight probably was more expensive and time consuming than if it had built from scratch.


20 years commercial heavy maintenance under FAA guidelines...where it's called overhaul.

Again, it's determined by what the Aircraft needs.

CNN - There are multiple reasons for the delay in delivery. After signing the original contract in 2017, Boeing began refurbishing two 747 jets in February 2020 that it had built for another customer but never delivered because of that customer’s bankruptcy — a process that in hindsight probably was more expensive and time consuming than if it had built from scratch.



Deal signed in 2017.....refurbishing of two existing started in 2020.

My sources say that the contract wasn't signed until 2024 for a 2027 completion.

Looking into a lighter version of the two at Boeing, with minimal 'goodies' to act as an interim.



Looking like you don't know what you're talking about.

Served in the USAF for over 20 years and worked around various types of C-135s from Tankers to EC and RCs. I used the Depot birds for cheap vacation transportation. Now, what about you. What are your Creds?

 

[Vrenn]

AI - In 2018, the Air Force issued a contract to Boeing to convert two 747s to eventually serve as new Air Force One aircraft, for $3.9 billion. In 2019, the Pentagon estimated that the total estimated cost of building, equipping and testing the planes would be higher, at about $5.3 billion.

My sources say it was issued in 2024 which makes the delivery date of 2027 just about right. How much of your info is also flawed? You need to give verifiable information cites since you are also prone to lie your ass off and no one can really depend on you to be honest.

 

[Delldude]

Educate us and give references. I am curious.

Cited in my first post.

My sources say that the contract wasn't signed until 2024 for a 2027 completion.

Well you need to do some research................Boeing cried and said 2028/2029 but Trump recently pitched a ***** and now maybe 2027.

Now, what about you. What are your Creds?

20 years commercial heavy maintenance, have my tickets.

Again, it's determined by what the Aircraft needs.

Sort of. It's called an ongoing maintenance program. AC's rotate in at different time intervals for work in certain stations on the plane. After rotating through, over a certain period, the whole AC has been checked. They do what is called a heavy 'Q' check where it's gutted and inspected/repaired as required also. The longest interval for removal from service.

My sources say it was issued in 2024 which makes the delivery date of 2027 just about right. How much of your info is also flawed?

Being as CNN mentioned, contract signed 2017, work started on two repo's in 2020, I'd say you're info is flawed.

You need to give verifiable information cites since you are also prone to lie your ass off and no one can really depend on you to be honest.

Please show where I've lied my ass off......dare you.

 

[Delldude]

Served in the USAF for over 20 years and worked around various types of C-135s from Tankers to EC and RCs.

You call that cred's?

 

[Vrenn]

If he was flying in a Cessna 152 it would be AF-1.

Depends on the branch of service. It could be an Army one and the call sign would be Army One. Shall we continue your education or are you going to get back to holding your ears, shutting your eyes and screaming "LaLaLaLa" over and over again.

 

[Delldude]

Depends on the branch of service. It could be an Army one and the call sign would be Army One. Shall we continue your education or are you going to get back to holding your ears, shutting your eyes and screaming "LaLaLaLa" over and over again.

Like WW said 'if' it was owned by the AF.

Sarcasm 'fly' over your head?

Time to go back to your sandbox.

 

[Vrenn]

Cited in my first post.

Nope, you just made a claim with no background to it. Should be believe a MAGAt like you?

Well you need to do some research................Boeing cried and said 2028/2029 but Trump recently pitched a ***** and now maybe 2027.

Maybe, Maybe.......... After seeing this, I already predicted 2028 or 2029.

20 years commercial heavy maintenance, have my tickets.

Wow, a Heavy Equipment Operator. Now, what company did you work for? As a Magat, expect this to be fact checked.

Sort of. It's called an ongoing maintenance program. AC's rotate in at different time intervals for work in certain stations on the plane. After rotating through, over a certain period, the whole AC has been checked. They do what is called a heavy 'Q' check where it's gutted and inspected/repaired as required also. The longest interval for removal from service.

I have time around 135 Depots and not once did they gut any of them. The ONLY place where a Military Heavy would be gutted would be at Davis Mothan.

Being as CNN mentioned, contract signed 2017, work started on two repo's in 2020, I'd say you're info is flawed.

Please show where I've lied my ass off......dare you.

You need to start giving references for your claims. Starting with, your Creds which don't check out.

 

[Vrenn]

Like WW said 'if' it was owned by the AF.

Sarcasm 'fly' over your head?

Time to go back to your sandbox.

He didn't say that the 152 was owned by anyone. You made the claim. And there are NO Cessna 152s in the AF Inventory. It went out of production in 1978. There are no 152s in US Military Service at all. Therefore, you claim could NEVER happen.

 

[krichton]

After he leaves office He can't.

There are many things Trump is told he can't do and yet he does them anyway.

Well it isn't or ever will be His, so whats the issue?

He's not supposed to benefit from it in any way.

 

[M14 Shooter]

There are many things Trump is told he can't do and yet he does them anyway.
He's not supposed to benefit from it in any way.

Lets us know when all this happens.
Until then, its much ado about nothing.

 

[Delldude]

There are many things Trump is told he can't do and yet he does them anyway.

Can you offer examples?

He's not supposed to benefit from it in any way.

Has He?

 

[Delldude]

Nope, you just made a claim with no background to it.

CNN clownman...............

I have time around 135 Depots and not once did they gut any of them. The ONLY place where a Military Heavy would be gutted would be at Davis Mothan.

Doing what? Working at the DFAC or peeking into the hangar and spanking your monkey?

You need to start giving references for your claims. Starting with, your Creds which don't check out.

Worked on a whole bunch of shit.....how about you?

He didn't say that the 152 was owned by anyone. You made the claim. And there are NO Cessna 152s in the AF Inventory. It went out of production in 1978. There are no 152s in US Military Service at all. Therefore, you claim could NEVER happen.

No, you're lying again.

Have a nice night, DANTE.

 

[krichton]

Can you offer examples?


Has He?

What about picking up random brown people and immediately sending them to El Salvador to be imprisoned and depriving them of their 4th amendment and 5th amendment rights? What about stealing classified and top secret material and refusing to return them? What about hatching a plot to send fake electors to mike pence to sign off? What about preventing Havard from accepting foreign students? What about revoking the visas and green cards of students and suspending the first amendment? How about defying lower federal courts and even the Supreme Court when it was found he blatantly violated the Constitution? How many more examples would you like? The list is long.

If he ever uses the plane, he will benefit from the gift, but simply accepting it comes with it's own baggage. You don't strike a private deal with the Qatar government to build a multi billion dollar golf resort in their country and then get something like this in return and say, yeah, everything seems like its on the up and up.

 

[krichton]

Lets us know when all this happens.
Until then, its much ado about nothing.

Simply accepting an insanely opulent gift like this from Qatar reeks of corruption. If you can't see how something like this would influence Trump to favor Qatar in any future negotiation then I can't help you.

 

[M14 Shooter]

What about picking up random brown people and immediately sending them to El Salvador to be imprisoned and depriving them of their 4th amendment and 5th amendment rights?

Didn't happen.

 

[krichton]

Didn't happen.

Good to know you're one of those people who lives completely detached from reality.

 

[Delldude]

Good to know you're one of those people who lives completely detached from reality.

Tell us about the reality.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Simply accepting an insanely opulent gift like this from Qatar reeks of corruption.

You apparently do not understand the legal meaning of "corrupt".
Hint: If a President takes an action for political pr policy purposes, it's not corrupt.

If you can't see how something like this would influence Trump to favor Qatar in any future negotiation then I can't help you.

"Could" influence and "did" influence are two separate things.
The fact Qatar gifted the aircraft to the federal government and not Trump means you'll have a tough time demonstrating that influence.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Good to know you're one of those people who lives completely detached from reality.

Good to know you're more than happy to make shit up.
Your poisoned your own claim with the asinine insertion of "random brown people".
-That- didn't happen.

 

[g5000]

I've seen the inside of several Middle Eastern flying palaces. They are amazing. Some of them actually have gold toilets, which I'm sure induces jealousy in Trump.

There are very ornate spaces for the leader, and a compartment with hundreds of seats for their "ministers". And there are huge lockers brimming with AK-47s.

I might still have some photos. I'll take a look.

I'm trying to remember who it was, but one Middle Eastern leader had his and her flying palaces for himself and his wife.

His wife caught a maid using her airplane's toilet and had the toilet replaced.

He was later assassinated. No wonder.

A little late, but I finally found some of my photos of the interior of one of these flying palaces.

This one is for a Middle Eastern prince. They travel in style.