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And in theirs...
Reciprocal tariffs ARE good though, otherwise countries wouldn't use tariffs.
Trump may have already changed his mind after today's market carnage.
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And in theirs...
Reciprocal tariffs ARE good though, otherwise countries wouldn't use tariffs.
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I never said they were. I've already said, multiple times, I don't agree with how trump did this. Across the board isn't right. I've said, always, that RECIPROCAL tariffs are justified
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As a follow to the story of flip flopping in post #445, we have this.
DETROIT — Shares of automakers jumped during midday trading Monday following President Donald Trump saying he is looking to “help some of the car companies.”
The automakers “need a little bit of time” to move their production to the U.S., Trump said during a meeting Monday with Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele in the Oval Office.
“I’m looking for something to help some of the car companies, where they’re switching to parts that were made in Canada, Mexico and other places, and they need a little bit of time because they’re going to make them here,” Trump said. “But they need a little bit of time, so I’m talking about things like that.”
If the tariffs had been well thought out in the first place these exemptions, alterations, and delays.........causing so much confusion and chaos..........wouldn't be necessary.
DETROIT — Shares of automakers jumped during midday trading Monday following President Donald Trump saying he is looking to “help some of the car companies.”
The automakers “need a little bit of time” to move their production to the U.S., Trump said during a meeting Monday with Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele in the Oval Office.
“I’m looking for something to help some of the car companies, where they’re switching to parts that were made in Canada, Mexico and other places, and they need a little bit of time because they’re going to make them here,” Trump said. “But they need a little bit of time, so I’m talking about things like that.”
If the tariffs had been well thought out in the first place these exemptions, alterations, and delays.........causing so much confusion and chaos..........wouldn't be necessary.
FredVegbarfuss
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Is Trump supposed to be a president with different powers than all other US presidents have been?
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Your ignorance around tariffs - who pays them and how effective are they, knows no bounds.
Thanks to Trump's tariffs, your trade deficit is higher this year than in 2024. When Trump took office in 2017, and renegotiated all of your trade deals, including NAFTA, the USA Trade deficit went from $735 billion in 2016 (Obama's last year in office), to $901 billion in 2020.
In 2024, still operating under Trump's "best deals ever", your trade deficit had risen to $1,204 billion. The Art of the Deal is to screw over the American manufacturer. Obama REDUCED the trade deficit he was handed, of $816 billion when W left office after 2008.
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The reason they call it a "trade war" is because there are winners and losers in any war. American farmers have been big time losers. American consumers are now paying tariffs on stuff that has to be imported - like coffee, potash, and aluminum cans.
What you pay for things is dependent on whether the country of origin has offended your thin skinned President. Coffee costs more because Brazilians sent their last President to jail for starting an insurrection. Something Americans SHOULD have done to Trump.
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.Your ignorance around tariffs - who pays them and how effective are they, knows no bounds.
Thanks to Trump's tariffs, your trade deficit is higher this year than in 2024. When Trump took office in 2017, and renegotiated all of your trade deals, including NAFTA, the USA Trade deficit went from $735 billion in 2016 (Obama's last year in office), to $901 billion in 2020.
In 2024, still operating under Trump's "best deals ever", your trade deficit had risen to $1,204 billion. The Art of the Deal is to screw over the American manufacturer. Obama REDUCED the trade deficit he was handed, of $816 billion when W left office after 2008.
International Trade
The reason they call it a "trade war" is because there are winners and losers in any war. American farmers have been big time losers. American consumers are now paying tariffs on stuff that has to be imported - like coffee, potash, and aluminum cans.
What you pay for things is dependent on whether the country of origin has offended your thin skinned President. Coffee costs more because Brazilians sent their last President to jail for starting an insurrection. Something Americans SHOULD have done to Trump.
I've already paid about $110 in tariffs on items I purchased, and I still think tariffs are great.
Will I stop buying merchandise from the tariffed countries? If I can get it from other sources, I will. One item I purchased is something that simply is not available from American sources.
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Your ignorance around tariffs - who pays them and how effective are they, knows no bounds.
Thanks to Trump's tariffs, your trade deficit is higher this year than in 2024. When Trump took office in 2017, and renegotiated all of your trade deals, including NAFTA, the USA Trade deficit went from $735 billion in 2016 (Obama's last year in office), to $901 billion in 2020.
In 2024, still operating under Trump's "best deals ever", your trade deficit had risen to $1,204 billion. The Art of the Deal is to screw over the American manufacturer. Obama REDUCED the trade deficit he was handed, of $816 billion when W left office after 2008.
International Trade
The reason they call it a "trade war" is because there are winners and losers in any war. American farmers have been big time losers. American consumers are now paying tariffs on stuff that has to be imported - like coffee, potash, and aluminum cans.
What you pay for things is dependent on whether the country of origin has offended your thin skinned President. Coffee costs more because Brazilians sent their last President to jail for starting an insurrection. Something Americans SHOULD have done to Trump.
How many aluminum cans do we import, KKKanuck?
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Nostra
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A little short term pain for long term gains is too complicated for Dragonbreath.
Trump is putting an end to the US getting screwed on trade deals by all the countries who have been doing it for decades.
But Dragonbreath't pea brain won't process anything but the idiotic talking points she is fed from her handlers.
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There are consequences to the Orange Menace's reckless idiocy.
During his four-day visit in China last week, Starmer met Chinese President Xi Jinping and secured deals that would see hundreds of millions worth of new investments from Chinese businesses, in addition to £2.2 billion ($3 billion) worth of exports and £2.3 billion in market access, according to a statement from the prime minister’s office.
Following the high-profile visit, the two leaders hailed the benefits of cooperation, with Xi describing the bilateral ties as “mutually beneficial.” Starmer, who brought a large delegation of executives from banking, pharmaceutical, and automobile companies to China, also described the country as vital to Britain’s interests.
www.cnbc.com
From PopMart to JD.com: Britain and China rush to forge business deals as diplomatic thaw takes hold
Chinese businesses have pledged hundreds of millions of pounds’ worth of investment in the U.K. and struck new partnerships with British peers as Prime Minister Keir Starmer’s visit to China spurred a flurry of bilateral business activity and investment flows.During his four-day visit in China last week, Starmer met Chinese President Xi Jinping and secured deals that would see hundreds of millions worth of new investments from Chinese businesses, in addition to £2.2 billion ($3 billion) worth of exports and £2.3 billion in market access, according to a statement from the prime minister’s office.
Following the high-profile visit, the two leaders hailed the benefits of cooperation, with Xi describing the bilateral ties as “mutually beneficial.” Starmer, who brought a large delegation of executives from banking, pharmaceutical, and automobile companies to China, also described the country as vital to Britain’s interests.
From PopMart to JD.com: Britain and China rush to forge business deals as diplomatic thaw takes hold
Chinese firms moved to pledge hundreds of millions of investment in the U.K. as Starmer's visit to China spurred a flurry of business deals and money flows.
www.cnbc.com
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China is a more stable trading partnerThere are consequences to the Orange Menace's reckless idiocy.
From PopMart to JD.com: Britain and China rush to forge business deals as diplomatic thaw takes hold
Chinese businesses have pledged hundreds of millions of pounds’ worth of investment in the U.K. and struck new partnerships with British peers as Prime Minister Keir Starmer’s visit to China spurred a flurry of bilateral business activity and investment flows.
During his four-day visit in China last week, Starmer met Chinese President Xi Jinping and secured deals that would see hundreds of millions worth of new investments from Chinese businesses, in addition to £2.2 billion ($3 billion) worth of exports and £2.3 billion in market access, according to a statement from the prime minister’s office.
Following the high-profile visit, the two leaders hailed the benefits of cooperation, with Xi describing the bilateral ties as “mutually beneficial.” Starmer, who brought a large delegation of executives from banking, pharmaceutical, and automobile companies to China, also described the country as vital to Britain’s interests.
From PopMart to JD.com: Britain and China rush to forge business deals as diplomatic thaw takes hold
Chinese firms moved to pledge hundreds of millions of investment in the U.K. as Starmer's visit to China spurred a flurry of business deals and money flows.
/----/ Did you whine like a little bytch when Biden slapped reciprocal tariffs on China and Canada? You know he kept all of Trump 45'5 tariffs except one and then added these two.
Cry harder.
/-----/ How can you say they are apples to oranges when you obviously don't know anything about Biden's tariffs?
On Tuesday, President Joe Biden announced new tariffs on $18 billion worth of imports from China, including electric vehicles, semiconductors, solar cells and critical minerals. Now, if this sounds a little familiar to you, you’re correct.
The Donald Trump administration spent years slapping tariffs on Chinese goods, using a lot of the same arguments the Biden administration is now making: that China’s trade policies are unfair, that the country is boosting its growth at the expense of others, that these tariffs are necessary to protect American industry and jobs.
Putting on tariffs is like rooting for the home team. That was true for Trump and now for Biden.
“Tariffs at a basic level are a disincentive to import. And where do you get stuff if you’re not importing? You buy domestically,” said Robert Johnson, an economics professor at the University of Notre Dame.
He said Biden is actually building on what Trump has already done.
“Meaning that there were about $300 billion worth of tariffs introduced under the Trump administration. Most of those have been left in place after a four-year review of that policy,” Johnson said.
The Biden administration has raised tariffs on Canadian softwood lumber, increasing the rate from 8.05% to 14.54%, impacting housing affordability in the U.S..
Overview
The Biden administration's approach to tariffs on Canada has included significant actions, particularly concerning softwood lumber. In August 2024, the U.S. Department of Commerce announced an increase in tariffs on Canadian softwood lumber products from 8.05% to 14.54%. This decision followed the department's annual review of existing tariffs and was aimed at addressing what the U.S. government considers unfair trade practices that affect American industries, particularly in the housing sector.National Association of Home Builders
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Your obscene use of white space, which uses bandwith which the board pays for, makes it obvious that you're not fiscally prudent. Most Americans aren't in a financial position to be so careless with their money.
We're still waiting for the long term gains from Trump's first round of trade deals. So far, the Great Negotiator is responsible for nearly doubling your trade deficit - from $735 billion under Obama, to $1,204 under Trump's trade deals. Deals that Trump has once again, torn up and called "stupid".
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At Davos, Trump said that he'd wiped out 70% of the US Trade Deficit using his tariffs. He lied.
