Trump is tearing MAGA apart

[Oddball]

Destroy the launchers and TELs Iran is using to launch them. Israel has +/- 50% destroyed already. With America's help, their capacity to launch ballistic missiles anywhere will be obliterated even quicker.

Thanks for that intel-packed assessment, General Turgidson.

Iran's military apparatus is in disarray, while ours is not. We keep our focus on where it belongs and do not get drawn in further, then great. The quicker we get this done, the quicker we can get out and move on with our lives. Leave the nation-building to the Iranians. Let them kill the Ayatollah and weed out the radical clerics living there.

So a few missiles falling on our boys will be tolerable...But no "boots on the ground"!

 

[Votto]

Who told you that? Our AIPAC owned politicians? The media. Of course they don't like us. We have been meddling in their affairs for decades.


Before Trump ended the agreement we had with them, American companies were starting to trade with Iran. If AIPAC didn't own so many of our congressmen, and Trump, we'd have a lot bigger trade with them than we do Israel.

You think Iran can be the friend of the US?



All they want is money and arms and idiot politicians in the US to allow it.

They will use it all to sponsor terror throughout the Middle East, and if allowed, the world.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Who told you that? Our AIPAC owned politicians? The media. Of course they don't like us. We have been meddling in their affairs for decades.

Sigh. The realities of war do not lend themselves to us just shutting ourselves off from the world.

And no. I'm monitoring OSINT channels, reading ME news sites, and whatnot. I'm informed. And I couldn't care less about AIPAC.

Before Trump ended the agreement we had with them, American companies were starting to trade with Iran. If AIPAC didn't own so many of our congressmen, and Trump, we'd have a lot bigger trade with them than we do Israel.

Trump didn't end the agreement. Iran chose not to obey it. They continued building nuclear enrichment sites and ballistic missiles in direct violation of the JCPOA. They had no intention of obeying the agreement.

Trump has given them every chance at a diplomatic solution, and they chose to bare their fangs at him. They'll get no sympathy from me.

 

[YoursTruly]

If a country is at war with you and it builds a nuke, that is a problem.

It is what it is.

Iran opposes us because we ficking babysit Israel. We give them hundreds of billions in $$$, aid, munitions.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

This is how the GOP is going to lose their majority in congress. Broken promises and throwing his people under the bus when they don't flip flop with him.

You should be happy then. But.....tell me how your party can win anything at all with a 21% approval rating?

 

[Oddball]

You think Iran can be the friend of the US?

They can not be an enemy, which would be the next best thing.

All they want is money and arms and idiot politicians in the US to allow it.

They will use it all to sponsor terror throughout the Middle East, and if allowed, the world.

You do realize that you've just repackaged the Cold War's discredited "domino theory", right?

 

[YoursTruly]

You think Iran can be the friend of the US?



All they want is money and arms and idiot politicians in the US to allow it.

They will use it all to sponsor terror throughout the Middle East, and if allowed, the world.

Yes, they can be allies with us, if we'd stop baby sitting Israel. We were starting to become trading partners with them until Trump came back in office.

 

[Votto]

Iran opposes us because we ficking babysit Israel. We give them hundreds of billions in $$$, aid, munitions.

You are a fool if you think this is only about Israel.

That's like saying Hitler only wanted the Jews all murdered.

I would compare Israel to Great Britian at the start of WW2. If she had fallen, the task of stopping Hitler would have been far greater.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Sigh. The realities of war do not lend themselves to us just shutting ourselves off from the world.

And no. I'm monitoring OSINT channels, reading ME news sites, and whatnot. I'm informed. And I couldn't care less about AIPAC.

Trump didn't end the agreement. Iran chose not to obey it. They continued building nuclear enrichment sites and ballistic missiles in direct violation of the JCPOA. They had no intention of obeying the agreement.

Trump has given them every chance at a diplomatic solution, and they chose to bare their fangs at him. They'll get no sympathy from me.

Can you just imagine a cleric with nukes going to sleep one night and like Paul being blinded by light and a vision of Allah telling him he was chosen for Allah's message that the time has come to finally and once and for all destroy the infidels and gain his 72 virgins for all eternity and being instructed to go quickly and silently to the room with the red buttons and...................................

 

[YoursTruly]

They can not be an enemy, which would be the next best thing.

You do realize that you've just repackaged the Cold War's discredited "domino theory", right?

Tulsi just stated that our own intelligence proves that Iran had not started trying to make a nuclear bomb. Trump is now using the the old "WMD lie," trying to scare his supporters so they'll support his bombing of Iran.

This is one of Tulsi's biggest reasons for running for president before. To stop this kind of crap. And now she's the DNI of a president who engaged in it. She's a smart, patriotic soldier. But even she was fooled by Trumps lies.

I'm getting the popcorn ready. Will she stick with Trump or her core beliefs?

 

[YoursTruly]

You are a fool if you think this is only about Israel.

That's like saying Hitler only wanted the Jews all murdered.

I would compare Israel to Great Britian at the start of WW2. If she had fallen, the task of stopping Hitler would have been far greater.

I compare Irans nuclear threat with W's WMD lies.

 

[Oddball]

Tulsi just stated that our own intelligence proves that Iran had not started trying to make a nuclear bomb. Trump is now using the the old "WMD lie," trying to scare his supporters so they'll support his bombing of Iran.

This is one of Tulsi's biggest reasons for running for president before. To stop this kind of crap. And now she's the DNI of a president who engaged in it. She's a smart, patriotic soldier. But even she was fooled by Trumps lies.

I'm getting the popcorn ready. Will she stick with Trump or her core beliefs?

I would have already tendered my resignation if that were me.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

1) Iran already has stated a desire to destroy America (and Israel) if it achieves its nuclear ambitions.

2) Any such ambition directly threatens our peace here at home.

3) A failure to stop those ambitions would destroy the peace here.

4) An achievement of nuclear operability by Iran would allow it to extort the international community by allowing it to threaten trade passing along the Strait of Hormuz.

5) Such a threat to trade could likely raise prices of goods worldwide, including here, resulting in YOUR suffering.

Therefore, to preserve the peace, those ambitions must be curtailed. The potential for extortion must be stopped. Some of you think peace means "no war, ever, under most circumstances." But sometimes peace has to be preserved by going to war, preemptively. If all it takes is a few bombs, so be it.

This strict definition of "peace" makes some all too unreasonable.

Brother, we’ve been hearing this for the past 30 years though. Netanyahu has literally been saying Iran is “close to the bomb” for the past 30 years.

And I abhor the Iranian government

 

[TemplarKormac]

Brother, we’ve been hearing this for the past 30 years though. Netanyahu has literally been saying Iran is “close to the bomb” for the past 30 years.

And I abhor the Iranian government

The existing Iranian government is of our doing. Installing the shah was what led to all of this. It led to the radicalization of the population for a generation. Even if none of that were true, our responsibility is to clean up the mess we made.

 

[Missourian]

This country needs a leader

Why, are we all going saltwater fishing?

 

[YoursTruly]

 

[YoursTruly]

The existing Iranian government is of our doing. Installing the shah was what led to all of this. It led to the radicalization of the population for a generation. Even if none of that were true, our responsibility is to clean up the mess we made.

No it's not. They can do a better job of clean it up.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Thanks for that intel-packed assessment, General Turgidson.

So a few missiles falling on our boys will be tolerable...But no "boots on the ground"!

Hey don't get mad at me. I'm just sharing my opinion.

Honestly, too many people ruled by their passions, and spirits of 3 year olds.

 

[JWBooth]

I don't see Trump getting into a war with Iran, at best, a bombing run or two like the US has done a thousand times before.

Unlike those previous incidents, this opponent has the ability to strike back.

 

[TemplarKormac]

No it's not. They can do a better job of clean it up.

It isn't their job to clean up our messes.