Trump is actually saving the country money stop whining about the jet.

[Godboy]

Just like the TOP SECRET documents at Mar-a-lago?

The ownership documents were being debated in court, before they were suddenly seized at gunpoint. In the case of the plane, there is no confusion about who it would belong to. Its been publicly announced by Trump himself.

 

[postman]

The ownership documents were being debated in court, before they were suddenly seized at gunpoint. In the case of the plane, there is no confusion about who it would belong to. Its been publicly announced by Trump himself.

There was no argument. The law clearly states that except for "PERSONAL PROPERTY" all of it was supposed to go to the National Archives.

Yet Trump illegally kept thousands of government documents that were supposed to go to the National Archives, and instead went for his personal use.

What do you think Trump would do with a $400 million 747 that's supposed to go to the National Archives.

 

[postman]

The ownership documents were being debated in court, before they were suddenly seized at gunpoint. In the case of the plane, there is no confusion about who it would belong to. Its been publicly announced by Trump himself.

There was no confusion who the presidential papers belonged to.

But Trump kept thousands of them at Mar-a-lago for his personal use. Which is why the National Archives, and finally the FBI had to seize them.

They would get Trump's $400 million 747 only after they pry it out of his little fingers.

 

[postman]

And BTW, by the time they finish upgrading the $400 million 747 to AF-1 standards, it would be worth over $1 billion.

 

[sartre play]

I thought there was probably more to the story than we were being told. There usually is.

Google Search

The following is a response to the question does Air Force One need to be replaced?

Yes, Air Force One needs to be replaced. The current fleet consists of two VC-25A aircraft, which are based on the older Boeing 747-200 model. These aircraft are nearing the end of their service life and are becoming increasingly expensive to maintain. The Air Force has been planning to replace them for years, and Boeing was contracted to convert two VC-25B jets from 747-8i airliners.

Here's why a replacement is necessary:

• • Age and Maintenance Costs:
    The current 747-200s are aging and becoming more expensive to maintain.
  • Technological Advancement:
    The new VC-25B jets will incorporate advanced communications and security features to better protect the President and ensure secure communication.
  • Operational Reliability:
    The new jets will be designed with improved reliability and efficiency compared to the current fleet.
  • Production Issues:
    The replacement project has faced delays due to production issues, wiring design problems, and other challenges.
  • Cost:
    The Air Force's budget for the project is projected to be nearly $4 billion.

The current replacement plans involve Boeing converting two existing 747-8i airliners into the VC-25B standard, but the process has faced delays and may not be completed until 2029.

Good or bad it is NOT about saving money!

 

[Frankenstein]

It took an FBI raid to get the top secret documents Trump was supposed to turn over to the National Archives.
Imagine what he could do with the plane he's supposed to turn over to the National Archives.

Maybe he would hide it next to Biden's corvette!

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

T shirt?>>>
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I want that! Off to look it up on Etsy.


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[Care4all]

yes there is. Its right there in the emolument clause you all keep posting about, that is completely unrelated to this situation.

The Emoluments clause is related to taking gifts from foreign governments...even Bondi told Trump he could not take the plane as a direct gift to the presidential library, from Qatar....because it is illegal for foreigners to donate to a Presidential Library Fund under the law....it is also illegal for foreigners and foreign countries to donate to a a presidential inauguration fund. The law was put in place for those funds and indirectly was derived from the Constitution Emoluments Clause and not accepting gifts from foreigners, for their appearance of influence or influence itself.

Which was Qatar and Trump's first deal for the plane. Qatar initially offered to donate the plane to Trump's Presidential Library....to skirt direct gifts from foreign countries in the Emoluments Clause if they gave it directly to Trump, as they wanted to do....they thought the Presidential Library donation would be a way around it!

Bondi and Whitehouse lawyers said No, that would be illegal, it would break the clause because it was a personal gift that way because Trump would own the contents of the Presidential library, AND because it is illegal for foreigners to donate to Presidential Library and Inaugural funds.

So they DEVISED THE SCHEME that Qatar would donate the plane to the Pentagon and on to the USAF.... for AF1.

Then right before Trump leaves office, have the Air Force DONATE the plane to Trump's Presidential Library....putting the plane in to Trump ownership and use... AND since it was now the Pentagon donating the plane to trump library, and not Qatar, the foreign entity donating directly to Trump's presidential library, using a sort of STRAWMAN buyer/owner donating it to Trump's Presidential library....but with the Air Force/Pentagon donating the plane, the CROOKED TRUMP thinks he can get away with accepting the gift.

The cost to make this palace in the sky AF1 safe and secure will cost us tax payer's hundreds of millions, for what? 2 years use? The the USAF donates it to Trump and no other President can use it???

Honestly, you guys are so snowed by this CON MAN it isn't even funny anymore....

 

[M14 Shooter]

The Emoluments clause is related to taking gifts from foreign governments....

Is related to INDIVIDUALS who hold office under the United States taking gifts from foreign governments.
If the gift is given to the United States, the clause does not apply.

Then right before Trump leaves office, have the Air Force DONATE the plane to Trump's Presidential Library....putting the plane in to Trump ownership and use...

Presidential Libraries, and their assets, are owned by the Federal Government and administered by the National Archives.
So... No.

Honestly, you guys are so snowed by this CON MAN it isn't even funny anymore....

I laugh at how ignorant you are of your ignorance.

 

[TNHarley]

The Emoluments clause is related to taking gifts from foreign governments...even Bondi told Trump he could not take the plane as a direct gift to the presidential library, from Qatar....because it is illegal for foreigners to donate to a Presidential Library Fund under the law....it is also illegal for foreigners and foreign countries to donate to a a presidential inauguration fund. The law was put in place for those funds and indirectly was derived from the Constitution Emoluments Clause and not accepting gifts from foreigners, for their appearance of influence or influence itself.

Which was Qatar and Trump's first deal for the plane. Qatar initially offered to donate the plane to Trump's Presidential Library....to skirt direct gifts from foreign countries in the Emoluments Clause if they gave it directly to Trump, as they wanted to do....they thought the Presidential Library donation would be a way around it!

Bondi and Whitehouse lawyers said No, that would be illegal, it would break the clause because it was a personal gift that way because Trump would own the contents of the Presidential library, AND because it is illegal for foreigners to donate to Presidential Library and Inaugural funds.

So they DEVISED THE SCHEME that Qatar would donate the plane to the Pentagon and on to the USAF.... for AF1.

Then right before Trump leaves office, have the Air Force DONATE the plane to Trump's Presidential Library....putting the plane in to Trump ownership and use... AND since it was now the Pentagon donating the plane to trump library, and not Qatar, the foreign entity donating directly to Trump's presidential library, using a sort of STRAWMAN buyer/owner donating it to Trump's Presidential library....but with the Air Force/Pentagon donating the plane, the CROOKED TRUMP thinks he can get away with accepting the gift.

The cost to make this palace in the sky AF1 safe and secure will cost us tax payer's hundreds of millions, for what? 2 years use? The the USAF donates it to Trump and no other President can use it???

Honestly, you guys are so snowed by this CON MAN it isn't even funny anymore....

I agreed with you until you went on a rant and started making shit up.

 

[Care4all]

I agreed with you until you went on a rant and started making shit up.

Try researching it...you might need subscriptions to the real, factual news though....and that does suck big-time, I know....

 

[M14 Shooter]

Try researching it...

As the desert said to the grain of sand -- looking forward to your response to post #151.

 

[TNHarley]

Try researching it...you might need subscriptions to the real, factual news though....and that does suck big-time, I know....

ok boomer

 

[Godboy]

What do you think Trump would do with a $400 million 747 that's supposed to go to the National Archives.

He will look at it on the extremely rare times when he visits his library. It will have no oil in it, no hydraulic fluid or jet fuel. What the fuck else do you do with a plane on display?

 

[Godboy]

There was no confusion who the presidential papers belonged to.

Not true, it was being hashed out in court at the time.

 

[sparky]

you folks all worried about your own back pocket ,and not the direction and good of America amaze me ~S~

 

[sparky]

Try researching it...you might need subscriptions to the real, factual news though....and that does suck big-time, I know....

actually, i did (and am not alone)

yet the lefties still want to exist in denial of it C4all

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[Dragonlady]

and.........?

do you think Trump is the first potus to accept gifts ?

what about this one>>>

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That one stayed with the American people after the President was out of office, and had no commercial value to the Administration, other than as a tourist attraction.

Giving Trump a plane that he gets to take with him when he leaves office, is flat out bribery and corruption. Trump thinks when he breaks the law right out in the open, it's not illegal. But it is.

 

[sparky]

Giving Trump a plane that he gets to take with him when he leaves office

where do you get this from???

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[Dragonlady]

where do you get this from???

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From Trump’s public statements today