Trump is actually saving the country money stop whining about the jet.

[WorldWatcher]

So gifts from foreign nations arent allowed to be displayed in museums? Is that your position?

Gifts from foreign government to the government of the United States are to be used as Congress specified since it is the property of the people of the United States.

If Congress says, Air Force - gut the plan and use it for troop transport and cargo? Then the Air Force would use it for cargo.

If Congress says, Air Force - scrap it? Then the Air Force would scrap it.

If Congress says, Air Force - transfer it to the Hampton VA Air and Space Museum? Then the Air Force would transfer it.

The President doesn't get to say - transfer it to by personal foundation for my use after I leave office.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

No, its going in a museum, aka his presidential library. He cant use it and he cant sell it, yet here you are losing your fucking mind anyway. This shit is really dumb.

Again, you are inserting "at his museum" to mean parked. In actuallity the reports were that it would be transferred to his library foundations - none of the reports were that it was for static display.

(And BTW - parking a 13 year old, low flight time, low landing 747 worth $400 Million at a Presidential Library is bonkers. Other aircraft at Presidential Libraries SAM 27000 and Helo's were retired after their service life and replacement - NOT just because the President left office.)

WW

 

[M14 Shooter]

Transferring to the foundation =/= static display.

Transferring to the - Presidential Library - foundation = / = remains operational and available for Trump to use

But that isn't what Trump was trying to weasel. He wanted the plan to go to his foundation, then he could use it for his personal post Presidency use.

You have zero factual basis for this claim.

 

[Zincwarrior]

No, its going in a museum, aka his presidential library. He cant use it a

Why do you think he couldn't use it?

 

[toobfreak]

The jet is a gift to the government, just like the Resolute Desk and the Statue of Liberty.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Why do you think he couldn't use it?

Because it will belong to the federal government and administered by the National Archives.
What about that says "It will be available for Trump to use" to you?

 

[postman]

Quit acting like a child. Im not going to waste my time on absurd horseshit like this ^.

It took an FBI raid to get the top secret documents Trump was supposed to turn over to the National Archives.
Imagine what he could do with the plane he's supposed to turn over to the National Archives.

 

[postman]

Because it will belong to the federal government and administered by the National Archives.
What about that says "It will be available for Trump to use" to you?

Just like the top secret documents Trump kept at Mar-a-lago?

 

[Godboy]

Gifts from foreign government to the government of the United States are to be used as Congress specified since it is the property of the people of the United States.

If Congress says, Air Force - gut the plan and use it for troop transport and cargo? Then the Air Force would use it for cargo.

If Congress says, Air Force - scrap it? Then the Air Force would scrap it.

If Congress says, Air Force - transfer it to the Hampton VA Air and Space Museum? Then the Air Force would transfer it.

The President doesn't get to say - transfer it to by personal foundation for my use after I leave office.

WW

Then we are in agreement. There is no scandal here. The plane will not be for Trumps personal use.

 

[Godboy]

It took an FBI raid to get the top secret documents Trump was supposed to turn over to the National Archives.
Imagine what he could do with the plane he's supposed to turn over to the National Archives.

Let me know when Trump steals that plane. Until then, you apparently have nothing worthwhile to contribute to this discussion.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Just like the top secret documents Trump kept at Mar-a-lago?

Look at you, unable to provide a meaningful response.
As per the norm.
Back on ignore.

 

[Godboy]

Again, you are inserting "at his museum" to mean parked. In actuallity the reports were that it would be transferred to his library foundations - none of the reports were that it was for static display.

Do you have any evidence for this kooky claim?

(And BTW - parking a 13 year old, low flight time, low landing 747 worth $400 Million at a Presidential Library is bonkers. Other aircraft at Presidential Libraries SAM 27000 and Helo's were retired after their service life and replacement - NOT just because the President left office.)

WW

Presidents have been given all sorts of weird gifts, from bags full of diamonds, to 1,000 lbs balls of cheese. That ^ is not a good argument.

 

[postman]

Why do you think he couldn't use it?

They said the same thing after Trump kept all those TOP SECRET documents he was supposed to turn over to the National Archives

 

[postman]

Then we are in agreement. There is no scandal here. The plane will not be for Trumps personal use.

Just like the TOP SECRET documents at Mar-a-lago?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Gifts from foreign government to the government of the United States are to be used as Congress specified since it is the property of the people of the United States.

You cannot demonstrate Congress is the sole arbiter of such things.

 

[postman]

Look at you, unable to provide a meaningful response.
As per the norm.
Back on ignore.

Trump claimed the TOP SECRET documents he kept at Mar-a-lago, were his to do with as he pleased.

He would do the same for the $400 million 747, that's also supposed to go to the National Archives.

 

[postman]

In 2021, Trump kept a lot of things that were supposed to go to the National Archives, for his personal use.

Strangely republicans defended Trump keeping all that stuff.

But now they say Trump won't do that again.

 

[postman]

In 2021 it was Trump keeping presidential records for his personal use.

Republicans were O.K. with that.

In 2029 it will be Trump keeping a $400 million 747 for his personal use.

Republicans would have to be hypocrites to stop it.

 

[toobfreak]

Because it will belong to the federal government and administered by the National Archives.

Keep in mind M14 that the Democrats are well-keyed on recognizing the earliest signs of fascism! After all, they have the most experience at it. Do not forget that:

• For 40 years, they ran on a woman's right to her body, then tried to deplatform, debank, and destroy anyone daring to refuse the Covid vaccine on medical grounds for their body, while watching woman after woman get concussion and brutal injury and sports careers destroyed being forced to compete with men dressed up to look like a woman.
• They had no problem with Joe running an illegal election with highly dubious outcome then deplatforming anyone on social media for daring to ask questions.
• Only allowed the press to ask Joe friendly questions, submitted in advance for approval.
• Then their candidate put up a guarded barricade all around DC with armed guards.
• Then their candidate arrested people for visiting the capitol, in some cases arresting people who were not even there.
• Ransacking a former president's home and wife's panty drawer waiting until he was out of town and turning off all cameras.
• Covering up two assassination attempts.
• Manufacturing crimes just to try to destroy his opponent.
• Declaring half of America domestic terrorists and garbage.
• Busing and flying in millions of criminal illegals over an open border while falsely claiming he was powerless as president to stop himself.
• Issuing blanket pardons for his entire family for unspecified crimes going back a full decade.
• Signing all of his bills and EOs with an auto-pen that anyone could have used.
• Finally, switching out when his reelection was uncertain at the very last minute, bypassing the primary election process to install an avowed marxist no one even voted for.

So you see, if anyone recognizes fascism when they see it, it would be the democrats.

But, now they are terrified that Trump is cutting drug costs to Americans so they pay the same as Europe, and accepting a new jet for the United States.

Trump really bears watching!---

 

[WorldWatcher]

In 2021, Trump kept a lot of things that were supposed to go to the National Archives, for his personal use.

Strangely republicans defended Trump keeping all that stuff.

But now they say Trump won't do that again.

I wonder.

Can we get a list of Presidents and Ex-Presidents that have been barred by one or more states from operating a charity within that state because they used the charity for personal gratification and actions?

Anyone?

WW