Trump, Iran and the 2020 Election

[eagle1462010]

FUCK IRAN......

They want to get busted up...........then they continue..........if they stop then they don't..........

Taking citizens hostage of other countries and seizing their assets is a ACT OF WAR..................

Military action is justified here.

 

[B. Kidd]

Trump will visit Iran for a photo op with Rouhani before he lets that happen. Then he will tell us Iran is not enriching uranium.

Wrong again retard. As usual for you. Your Saint Obozo bent over for the mullahs and gave them nukes and billions in cash. Trump isn't going along with their BS so they're acting out. So you dislike the fact that he is reluctant to send troops into an active war? Yet Trump is the war hawk here?

Trump tore up the JPOA, giving Iran permission to restart their nuclear weapons program.

You tards spew this "Obama gave them nukes" bullshit without any basis in fact.

It's Trump who has given Iran the green light to restart their nuke weapons program.

^^^^This idiot believes Iran shut down their nuclear program just because Obozo asked after he bent over for them. You spout your bullshit about Trump daily with ZERO basis in fact. Fact: Obozo's OWN PARTY wouldn't back this sham. That tells you all you need to know. If up you believe Iran was complying with that deal I have some ocean front property in Nebraska you might like.....

It was verified Iran shut down their program, dipshit. It's pretty hard to fake the shipment of enriched uranium and centrifuges out of the country or the plugging of a breeder reactor.

Dumbass.

You want a dumbass, look in the mirror. Verified by the Iranians? Hahahaha! The inspectors weren't allowed to inspect EVERY facility. Never mind the fact that the Israelis showed the photographic proof that all the mullahs did was move their stores to a different location in the country and not tell anybody. Retard.

Yes, they do omit the important facts.

 

[lantern2814]

The inspectors weren't allowed to inspect EVERY facility.

So what? You wouldnt need inspectors in a facility to know that there was nuclear material there. No nuke material = no need to inspect. Dude, you seriously have no idea what you are talking about and should probably shut up ommediately.

Your flailing and utter surrender are noted. You know there's no nuclear material in a NUCLEAR facility without inspecting? You need to get a GED and STFU yesterday. I've embarrassed you 3 or 4 times lately. Commence your crying loser.

 

[2aguy]

As the pressure on trump grows, the tail of the dog wags faster.

My greatest concern is trump will wage war against Iran, counting on being a war time President, he will win a second term.

the way its looking the UK may be the one waging some kind of war.....

How....they mothballed their military to pay for their social welfare state....depending on the U.S. to keep them safe...

so the ships they have sent to the area are just props?...

They ran out of missles during their strikes against Libya.....if they can make it there and back to Britain without running out of gas, it would be a miracle...

UK hires team to stop destroyers from breaking down at sea

The warships have suffered a number of embarrassing breakdowns at sea due to problems with the propulsion system during operations in high temperatures, undermining confidence in the reliability of the six destroyers.

The Decline of the Royal Navy

Today, however, the Royal Navy is a shadow of its former self. Government budgeteers have repeatedly, and excessively, cut the numbers of its ships, planes and manpower. It can barely patrol the United Kingdom’s own waters, much less project British influence abroad.

 

[Wry Catcher]

As the pressure on trump grows, the tail of the dog wags faster.

My greatest concern is trump will wage war against Iran, counting on being a war time President, to will win a second term.

1. Link that goes with your initial thread-starting post?

2. Iran just pirated / seized another British oil tanker...after attacking 6 before this ... I though Obama's Un-Constitutional treaty and ransom payments were going to guarantee Iran was going to be 'good' instead of continuing to be the World's leading Sponsor of Terrorism?!

Appeasement never works. If you disagree please post a link to any war that has been prevented by kissing ass and giving the enemy what it wanted...

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No.

Trump walked away and created chaos, creating chaos is his only forte.

 

[2aguy]

As the pressure on trump grows, the tail of the dog wags faster.

My greatest concern is trump will wage war against Iran, counting on being a war time President, to will win a second term.

1. Link that goes with your initial thread-starting post?

2. Iran just pirated / seized another British oil tanker...after attacking 6 before this ... I though Obama's Un-Constitutional treaty and ransom payments were going to guarantee Iran was going to be 'good' instead of continuing to be the World's leading Sponsor of Terrorism?!

Appeasement never works. If you disagree please post a link to any war that has been prevented by kissing ass and giving the enemy what it wanted...

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No.

Trump walked away and created chaos, creating chaos is his only forte.

Iran wants the sanctions lifted...the sanctions Trump put back on them...the democrats told Iran they will give them a better deal but need Iran's help in getting Trump to lose in 2020.

 

[ABikerSailor]

FUCK IRAN......

They want to get busted up...........then they continue..........if they stop then they don't..........

Taking citizens hostage of other countries and seizing their assets is a ACT OF WAR..................

Military action is justified here.

Maybe British military action would be justified here, but not American military, as they haven't made a move against American ships yet.

 

[eagle1462010]

As the pressure on trump grows, the tail of the dog wags faster.

My greatest concern is trump will wage war against Iran, counting on being a war time President, he will win a second term.

the way its looking the UK may be the one waging some kind of war.....

How....they mothballed their military to pay for their social welfare state....depending on the U.S. to keep them safe...

so the ships they have sent to the area are just props?...

They ran out of missles during their strikes against Libya.....if they can make it there and back to Britain without running out of gas, it would be a miracle...

UK hires team to stop destroyers from breaking down at sea

The warships have suffered a number of embarrassing breakdowns at sea due to problems with the propulsion system during operations in high temperatures, undermining confidence in the reliability of the six destroyers.

The Decline of the Royal Navy

Today, however, the Royal Navy is a shadow of its former self. Government budgeteers have repeatedly, and excessively, cut the numbers of its ships, planes and manpower. It can barely patrol the United Kingdom’s own waters, much less project British influence abroad.

Why and the world would they use a gas turbine engine to power electric motors to drive the shafts..........LOL

No wonder they are breaking down.............Who's the rocket scientist that came up with that.

Use the Gas turbines to drive the ship..........not use electric motors .............LMAO............oh well.

 

[2aguy]

As the pressure on trump grows, the tail of the dog wags faster.

My greatest concern is trump will wage war against Iran, counting on being a war time President, he will win a second term.

the way its looking the UK may be the one waging some kind of war.....

How....they mothballed their military to pay for their social welfare state....depending on the U.S. to keep them safe...

so the ships they have sent to the area are just props?...

Very likely...


On paper, the Royal Navy's 89 ships include one helicopter carrier, six amphibious assault ships, six destroyers, 13 frigates, seven attack submarines and four ballistic-missile submarines. The rest are minesweepers, survey ships and other support vessels, many no larger than the U.S. Coast Guard's small patrol ships.

Only the six destroyers, 13 frigates and seven attack submarines can be considered true frontline vessels, with adequate sensors, weapons and protection to fight and survive in a battle with a sophisticated foe. The other ships require escort through dangerous waters.

Roughly half the ships are in routine maintenance or training at any given time. Several others are committed to small standing patrols, which leaves just a handful of vessels to respond to emergencies.

But that's assuming there are enough sailors to operate the ships. The Royal Navy has shed people faster than ships. Britain had 39,000 sailors in 2000. It now has a little more than 29,000, at least 2,000 short of its authorized strength.

 

[Wry Catcher]

As the pressure on trump grows, the tail of the dog wags faster.

My greatest concern is trump will wage war against Iran, counting on being a war time President, he will win a second term.

Why don’t you democrats help all the blacks getting shot in your towns.. and leave republicans alone ..

Dont worry, ya cackling moron...we will work on that AND on all the white people ODing on opioids in the red states. You just sit there and look stupid. We got this.

Sounds good, you must have multiple operations centers in your tents in Los Angeles and San Francisco...dumbass.

Well now, you attack the messanger and call him a "dumbass" and yet can't disprove his statesments. Which, in fact are true.

Trump flips and flops like a big fat tuna hooked and tossed on the deck of a trawler.

 

[eagle1462010]

FUCK IRAN......

They want to get busted up...........then they continue..........if they stop then they don't..........

Taking citizens hostage of other countries and seizing their assets is a ACT OF WAR..................

Military action is justified here.

Maybe British military action would be justified here, but not American military, as they haven't made a move against American ships yet.

They are our allies............they went with us to Iraq.............and we will back them if asked...........

And the Iranians are using hostages as a political statement............they don't want a shooting match where they will get their asses handed to them.

 

[ABikerSailor]

As the pressure on trump grows, the tail of the dog wags faster.

My greatest concern is trump will wage war against Iran, counting on being a war time President, he will win a second term.

the way its looking the UK may be the one waging some kind of war.....

How....they mothballed their military to pay for their social welfare state....depending on the U.S. to keep them safe...

so the ships they have sent to the area are just props?...

They ran out of missles during their strikes against Libya.....if they can make it there and back to Britain without running out of gas, it would be a miracle...

UK hires team to stop destroyers from breaking down at sea

The warships have suffered a number of embarrassing breakdowns at sea due to problems with the propulsion system during operations in high temperatures, undermining confidence in the reliability of the six destroyers.

The Decline of the Royal Navy

Today, however, the Royal Navy is a shadow of its former self. Government budgeteers have repeatedly, and excessively, cut the numbers of its ships, planes and manpower. It can barely patrol the United Kingdom’s own waters, much less project British influence abroad.

Why and the world would they use a gas turbine engine to power electric motors to drive the shafts..........LOL

No wonder they are breaking down.............Who's the rocket scientist that came up with that.

Use the Gas turbines to drive the ship..........not use electric motors .............LMAO............oh well.

Guess you've never been on a nuclear aircraft carrier then.

Nuclear marine propulsion - Wikipedia

Nuclear marine propulsion is propulsion of a ship or submarine with heat provided by a nuclear power plant. The power plant heats water to produce steam for a turbine used to turn the ship's propeller through a gearbox or through an electric generator and motor. Naval nuclear propulsion is used specifically within naval warships such as supercarriers. A small number of experimental civil nuclear ships have been built.[1]

 

[Wry Catcher]

You know, first Iran shot down one of our spy drones, claiming it was in international waters.

Then, they plant mines on some tankers going through the Straits.

Yesterday, the US took out one of their drones.

Today? They take a British tanker hostage.

I'm guessing its only gonna take one or two more incidents like this before the responses escalate into a full fledged shooting war.

I wonder if Trump is doing this now because he knows Iran doesn't have nukes yet?

So Iran shoots down a drone, plants mines on tankers, take a British tanker hostage and you think Trump is doing this?

He's more than a catalyst, his bellicose language and arbitrary walking away from the agreement negotiated by the Obama Administration not only precipitated the current chaos, but made it clear throughout the Middle East that the United States Cannot be Trusted.

Trump's foreign policy is a clusterfuck.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Iran has NEVER been in compliance as shown by the Israeli intelligence

Nah, that's an unsupported, cherry picked claim that you chose to align with your auperstitions and fetishes. Not compelling, sorry. The fact that the inspectors and the other signatories say they have complied is far more compelling than your rightwing bubble bullshit.

Obozo NEVER had Democrat support for this sham.

Also a shameless lie, as the lobbying of the democrat party compelled tgem to filibister in the senate and to keep it from being tossed from the house.

Sorry ya moron, these are facts.

 

[eagle1462010]

the way its looking the UK may be the one waging some kind of war.....

How....they mothballed their military to pay for their social welfare state....depending on the U.S. to keep them safe...

so the ships they have sent to the area are just props?...

They ran out of missles during their strikes against Libya.....if they can make it there and back to Britain without running out of gas, it would be a miracle...

UK hires team to stop destroyers from breaking down at sea

The warships have suffered a number of embarrassing breakdowns at sea due to problems with the propulsion system during operations in high temperatures, undermining confidence in the reliability of the six destroyers.

The Decline of the Royal Navy

Today, however, the Royal Navy is a shadow of its former self. Government budgeteers have repeatedly, and excessively, cut the numbers of its ships, planes and manpower. It can barely patrol the United Kingdom’s own waters, much less project British influence abroad.

Why and the world would they use a gas turbine engine to power electric motors to drive the shafts..........LOL

No wonder they are breaking down.............Who's the rocket scientist that came up with that.

Use the Gas turbines to drive the ship..........not use electric motors .............LMAO............oh well.

Guess you've never been on a nuclear aircraft carrier then.

Nuclear marine propulsion - Wikipedia

Nuclear marine propulsion is propulsion of a ship or submarine with heat provided by a nuclear power plant. The power plant heats water to produce steam for a turbine used to turn the ship's propeller through a gearbox or through an electric generator and motor. Naval nuclear propulsion is used specifically within naval warships such as supercarriers. A small number of experimental civil nuclear ships have been built.[1]

Why would you do that on a destroyer.........lol..........The Gas Turbine driving the props has a very good track record.

If it isn't broken don't fix it.........Just some engineer trying to spice things up.

KISS principle applies.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So Iran shoots down a drone, plants mines on tankers, take a British tanker hostage and you think Trump is doing this?

No, we cant blame ourselves or our leaders for the bad actions of bad actors. But we can look ay what we can control, and identify mistakes. For example, dismantling the Iraq army was a historical mistake that fomented the creation and power of ISIS. Are the actions of these evil people to be blamed on Bush? Of course not. But it is fair to say that dismantling their army was a mistake.

 

[eagle1462010]

You know, first Iran shot down one of our spy drones, claiming it was in international waters.

Then, they plant mines on some tankers going through the Straits.

Yesterday, the US took out one of their drones.

Today? They take a British tanker hostage.

I'm guessing its only gonna take one or two more incidents like this before the responses escalate into a full fledged shooting war.

I wonder if Trump is doing this now because he knows Iran doesn't have nukes yet?

So Iran shoots down a drone, plants mines on tankers, take a British tanker hostage and you think Trump is doing this?

He's more than a catalyst, his bellicose language and arbitrary walking away from the agreement negotiated by the Obama Administration not only precipitated the current chaos, but made it clear throughout the Middle East that the United States Cannot be Trusted.

Trump's foreign policy is a clusterfuck.

That agreement wasn't worth the paper it was written on...........the vote by the Senate was a complete and utter JOKE.............

Wasn't ratified and Trump didn't have to honor it.....................Iran has no intentions of stopping that program.........anyone who thinks that is a Joke too.

 

[eagle1462010]

So Iran shoots down a drone, plants mines on tankers, take a British tanker hostage and you think Trump is doing this?

No, we cant blame ourselves or our leaders for the bad actions of bad actors. But we can look ay what we can control, and identify mistakes. For example, dismantling the Iraq army was a historical mistake that fomented the creation and power of ISIS. Are the actions of these evil people to be blamed on Bush? Of course not. But it is fair to say that dismantling their army was a mistake.

Turning them loose by the Iraqi's in Boko caused was an enormous mistake........they didn't listen.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So Iran shoots down a drone, plants mines on tankers, take a British tanker hostage and you think Trump is doing this?

No, we cant blame ourselves or our leaders for the bad actions of bad actors. But we can look ay what we can control, and identify mistakes. For example, dismantling the Iraq army was a historical mistake that fomented the creation and power of ISIS. Are the actions of these evil people to be blamed on Bush? Of course not. But it is fair to say that dismantling their army was a mistake.

Turning them loose by the Iraqi's in Boko caused was an enormous mistake........they didn't listen.

English,please. Not that it's going to make any more sense once it is translated from wingnut to English. ..

 

[eagle1462010]

How the hell. did this turn into another Trump bashing episode.............Iran took hostages and here the left turns it on to us......

Blaming us when they have been supporting terror since Peanut head.............

Oh.........I know we are posting to liberals with TDS.