Top Ten Countries With Best Public Health Care

[Rigby5]

Why do Republicans like going without healthcare, or receiving ridiculous bills in the mail from their healthcare providers?

Let's take a look at the Top Ten.

The U.S.? #22.

1. Sweden
2. Germany
3. Denmark
4. Canada
5. Switzerland
6. Netherlands
7. Norway
8. United Kingdom
9. Finland
10. Japan

Socialism.............

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/countries-with-the-most-well-developed-public-health-care-system

Now list the populations of those countries. If you're honest, you'll admit the issue. If you're a DNC dupe, you won't.

yep California has more people than 7 of those countries....

But the retards on the left whine "why can't our country of 400 million people have healthcare just like that little Scandinavian country with 5 million?"

LOL

Having more hospitals just means having more cities, and scaling up should not change anything.
If anything, scaling up should improve economy of scale.
But the US does not scale up or do anything well when it comes to health care.
Lots of people can't afford it at all in the US, and it is way too expensive and poor quality compared to any other country.
Did not used to be that way.
In the 1950s and before, anyone could also always go to a hospital and get health care first.
Billing was always worked out somehow, later.
But as a contractor, I never get employer benefits, and if I do not have insurance, I can't get an appointment to see any doctor or be accepted by any hospital except the ER, which is very poor care and 4 times as expensive.

That's a load of shit, and you should be aware of this. America has had a family health center program for literally decades which offers care on a sliding scale for indigents and near indigents like your self. Indigents on medicaid don't pay shit, and low rates are charged to destitute people who aren't quite as poor.

Pretending that America leaves its substantial Bum Population high and dry in regards to medical care is just a liberal talking point.

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Eligibility The defining legislation for Federally Qualified Health Centers (under the Consolidated Health Center Program) is Section 1905(l)(2)(B) of the Social Security Act. Health Center Program Award Recipients are community-based health care providers that receive funds from the HRSA Health...

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Wrong.
I am not indigent and am not talking about indigents.
I was a contractor, so was making good money, but contractors do not get health insurance.
And at first I never had medical problems, so ignored it.
But once I did have any problem, it was impossible to make an appointment to see a doctor.
They only took people with insurance.

 

[Polishprince]

Why do Republicans like going without healthcare, or receiving ridiculous bills in the mail from their healthcare providers?

Let's take a look at the Top Ten.

The U.S.? #22.

1. Sweden
2. Germany
3. Denmark
4. Canada
5. Switzerland
6. Netherlands
7. Norway
8. United Kingdom
9. Finland
10. Japan

Socialism.............

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/countries-with-the-most-well-developed-public-health-care-system

Now list the populations of those countries. If you're honest, you'll admit the issue. If you're a DNC dupe, you won't.

yep California has more people than 7 of those countries....

But the retards on the left whine "why can't our country of 400 million people have healthcare just like that little Scandinavian country with 5 million?"

LOL

Having more hospitals just means having more cities, and scaling up should not change anything.
If anything, scaling up should improve economy of scale.
But the US does not scale up or do anything well when it comes to health care.
Lots of people can't afford it at all in the US, and it is way too expensive and poor quality compared to any other country.
Did not used to be that way.
In the 1950s and before, anyone could also always go to a hospital and get health care first.
Billing was always worked out somehow, later.
But as a contractor, I never get employer benefits, and if I do not have insurance, I can't get an appointment to see any doctor or be accepted by any hospital except the ER, which is very poor care and 4 times as expensive.

That's a load of shit, and you should be aware of this. America has had a family health center program for literally decades which offers care on a sliding scale for indigents and near indigents like your self. Indigents on medicaid don't pay shit, and low rates are charged to destitute people who aren't quite as poor.

Pretending that America leaves its substantial Bum Population high and dry in regards to medical care is just a liberal talking point.

Health Center Program Award Recipients | HRSA

Eligibility The defining legislation for Federally Qualified Health Centers (under the Consolidated Health Center Program) is Section 1905(l)(2)(B) of the Social Security Act. Health Center Program Award Recipients are community-based health care providers that receive funds from the HRSA Health...

www.hrsa.gov

Wrong.
I am not indigent and am not talking about indigents.
I was a contractor, so was making good money, but contractors do not get health insurance.
And at first I never had medical problems, so ignored it.
But once I did have any problem, it was impossible to make an appointment to see a doctor.
They only took people with insurance.

Call a federally certified family health center in an urban hell hole near you. They charge on a sliding scale. If you have plenty of money, you will be charged full price.

They are federally certified , they will see you.

 

[Rigby5]

Why do Republicans like going without healthcare, or receiving ridiculous bills in the mail from their healthcare providers?

Let's take a look at the Top Ten.

The U.S.? #22.

1. Sweden
2. Germany
3. Denmark
4. Canada
5. Switzerland
6. Netherlands
7. Norway
8. United Kingdom
9. Finland
10. Japan

Socialism.............

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/countries-with-the-most-well-developed-public-health-care-system

Now list the populations of those countries. If you're honest, you'll admit the issue. If you're a DNC dupe, you won't.

yep California has more people than 7 of those countries....

But the retards on the left whine "why can't our country of 400 million people have healthcare just like that little Scandinavian country with 5 million?"

LOL

Having more hospitals just means having more cities, and scaling up should not change anything.
If anything, scaling up should improve economy of scale.
But the US does not scale up or do anything well when it comes to health care.
Lots of people can't afford it at all in the US, and it is way too expensive and poor quality compared to any other country.
Did not used to be that way.
In the 1950s and before, anyone could also always go to a hospital and get health care first.
Billing was always worked out somehow, later.
But as a contractor, I never get employer benefits, and if I do not have insurance, I can't get an appointment to see any doctor or be accepted by any hospital except the ER, which is very poor care and 4 times as expensive.

That's a load of shit, and you should be aware of this. America has had a family health center program for literally decades which offers care on a sliding scale for indigents and near indigents like your self. Indigents on medicaid don't pay shit, and low rates are charged to destitute people who aren't quite as poor.

Pretending that America leaves its substantial Bum Population high and dry in regards to medical care is just a liberal talking point.

Health Center Program Award Recipients | HRSA

Eligibility The defining legislation for Federally Qualified Health Centers (under the Consolidated Health Center Program) is Section 1905(l)(2)(B) of the Social Security Act. Health Center Program Award Recipients are community-based health care providers that receive funds from the HRSA Health...

www.hrsa.gov

Wrong.
I am not indigent and am not talking about indigents.
I was a contractor, so was making good money, but contractors do not get health insurance.
And at first I never had medical problems, so ignored it.
But once I did have any problem, it was impossible to make an appointment to see a doctor.
They only took people with insurance.

Call a federally certified family health center in an urban hell hole near you. They charge on a sliding scale. If you have plenty of money, you will be charged full price.

They are federally certified , they will see you.

Thanks. Good information. They are non-profit, but will take anyone.
The last time I needed to see a doctor was about a decade ago, and I wish someone had told me about Family Health Care Centers back then.
Instead all the doctor's offices I called said to go to the ER, which was bad advice.

 

[odanny]

, so now people without insurance can't get an appointment for any medical work.

Money talks, bullshit walks. I can be seen by a doctor any time I'd like, and I'm uninsured.

And if you have a serious medical issue, you'll be looking at bankruptcy. That does not happen in other western democracies, only in this country. And the cost of treatment for those paying "out of pocket" is completely unaffordable for anything but the most minor procedures.

I listened to someone on television the other day who had to take out a second mortgage to pay for cancer treatment, and that was with insurance!

 

[Orangecat]

And if you have a serious medical issue, you'll be looking at bankruptcy.

So what? Are you afraid of not being wealthy? Pay the price to fix yourself and earn some more money if it means that much to you.

 

[Turtlesoup]

rightwinger I just looked it up, Denmark provides Free testing for preggies......most all expectant mothers who have a fetus with a chromosome issue fetus--abort in Denmark. Apparently, their culture supports common sense and Eugenics...

I like this .....................this saves the family and the kids and the government lots of hardache and grief.....and it will in the long term remove a alot of genetic issues out of the denmark population.

 

[Turtlesoup]

LordBrownTrout I live in florida where lots of canadians spend their time-----when they get really sick, instead of waiting in canada with their rationed care for things like hip surgery---they come to the US to have it done. Canadas health care suck.

 

[Wyatt earp]

rightwinger I just looked it up, Denmark provides Free testing for preggies......most all expectant mothers who have a fetus with a chromosome issue fetus--abort in Denmark. Apparently, their culture supports common sense and Eugenics...

I like this .....................this saves the family and the kids and the government lots of hardache and grief.....and it will in the long term remove a alot of genetic issues out of the denmark population.

The master race?

You're as sick as they are

 

[rightwinger]

LordBrownTrout I live in florida where lots of canadians spend their time-----when they get really sick, instead of waiting in canada with their rationed care for things like hip surgery---they come to the US to have it done. Canadas health care suck.

Hip surgery is not an urgent need. Most people go for years before they finally get it.
I would get it done for free in Canada rather than pay $100,000 here

 

[Polishprince]

LordBrownTrout I live in florida where lots of canadians spend their time-----when they get really sick, instead of waiting in canada with their rationed care for things like hip surgery---they come to the US to have it done. Canadas health care suck.

Hip surgery is not an urgent need. Most people go for years before they finally get it.
I would get it done for free in Canada rather than pay $100,000 here

Hip surgery is a lot more urgent than a Sex Change or an abortion, I'll tell you that for sure.

It isn't an "emergency" but it is needed, particularly in the current age where more and more doctors are hesitant to help their patients cope with the pain with oxy scrips.

If I needed it, I would rather get it done by a Competent surgeon, not some socialized medicine quack. Its still a medical challenge, and even native born Canadians like Alex Trebek come to America when they have a health challenge instead of relying on Canada's failed system.

 

[westwall]

Why do Republicans like going without healthcare, or receiving ridiculous bills in the mail from their healthcare providers?

Let's take a look at the Top Ten.

The U.S.? #22.

1. Sweden
2. Germany
3. Denmark
4. Canada
5. Switzerland
6. Netherlands
7. Norway
8. United Kingdom
9. Finland
10. Japan

Socialism.............

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/countries-with-the-most-well-developed-public-health-care-system

Sooooo, the UK ranks 8th. Average wait time for an ambulance is 6 hours. Longest wait time recorded for ambulance arrival was 96 hours.

You'll believe almost anything won't you.

 

[rightwinger]

LordBrownTrout I live in florida where lots of canadians spend their time-----when they get really sick, instead of waiting in canada with their rationed care for things like hip surgery---they come to the US to have it done. Canadas health care suck.

Hip surgery is not an urgent need. Most people go for years before they finally get it.
I would get it done for free in Canada rather than pay $100,000 here

Hip surgery is a lot more urgent than a Sex Change or an abortion, I'll tell you that for sure.

It isn't an "emergency" but it is needed, particularly in the current age where more and more doctors are hesitant to help their patients cope with the pain with oxy scrips.

If I needed it, I would rather get it done by a Competent surgeon, not some socialized medicine quack. Its still a medical challenge, and even native born Canadians like Alex Trebek come to America when they have a health challenge instead of relying on Canada's failed system.

You have to wait for hip surgery in Canada, maybe six months, but you will not receive a bill

In the US, you may wait six weeks and face a substantial bill later

 

[Polishprince]

LordBrownTrout I live in florida where lots of canadians spend their time-----when they get really sick, instead of waiting in canada with their rationed care for things like hip surgery---they come to the US to have it done. Canadas health care suck.

Hip surgery is not an urgent need. Most people go for years before they finally get it.
I would get it done for free in Canada rather than pay $100,000 here

Hip surgery is a lot more urgent than a Sex Change or an abortion, I'll tell you that for sure.

It isn't an "emergency" but it is needed, particularly in the current age where more and more doctors are hesitant to help their patients cope with the pain with oxy scrips.

If I needed it, I would rather get it done by a Competent surgeon, not some socialized medicine quack. Its still a medical challenge, and even native born Canadians like Alex Trebek come to America when they have a health challenge instead of relying on Canada's failed system.

You have to wait for hip surgery in Canada, maybe six months, but you will not receive a bill

In the US, you may wait six weeks and face a substantial bill later

You are not addressing the issue of "Quality" here at all, and that's where your argument fails.

American surgeons are the finest in the world, and the best always costs more. When British subject Mick Jagger needed complicated heart surgery, he came to America even though he could have received the procedure for less in England.


BTW, if America wasn't next door to Canada, the wait for hips would be a lot longer there. The American medical system provides an alternative for Canadians who care about their health and won't wait.

 

[rightwinger]

LordBrownTrout I live in florida where lots of canadians spend their time-----when they get really sick, instead of waiting in canada with their rationed care for things like hip surgery---they come to the US to have it done. Canadas health care suck.

Hip surgery is not an urgent need. Most people go for years before they finally get it.
I would get it done for free in Canada rather than pay $100,000 here

Hip surgery is a lot more urgent than a Sex Change or an abortion, I'll tell you that for sure.

It isn't an "emergency" but it is needed, particularly in the current age where more and more doctors are hesitant to help their patients cope with the pain with oxy scrips.

If I needed it, I would rather get it done by a Competent surgeon, not some socialized medicine quack. Its still a medical challenge, and even native born Canadians like Alex Trebek come to America when they have a health challenge instead of relying on Canada's failed system.

You have to wait for hip surgery in Canada, maybe six months, but you will not receive a bill

In the US, you may wait six weeks and face a substantial bill later

You are not addressing the issue of "Quality" here at all, and that's where your argument fails.

American surgeons are the finest in the world, and the best always costs more. When British subject Mick Jagger needed complicated heart surgery, he came to America even though he could have received the procedure for less in England.


BTW, if America wasn't next door to Canada, the wait for hips would be a lot longer there. The American medical system provides an alternative for Canadians who care about their health and won't wait.

Life expectancy in Canada is much higher than in the US
Their healthcare system is ranked higher

 

[marvin martian]

Why do Republicans like going without healthcare, or receiving ridiculous bills in the mail from their healthcare providers?

Let's take a look at the Top Ten.

The U.S.? #22.

1. Sweden
2. Germany
3. Denmark
4. Canada
5. Switzerland
6. Netherlands
7. Norway
8. United Kingdom
9. Finland
10. Japan

Socialism.............

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/countries-with-the-most-well-developed-public-health-care-system

Now list the populations of those countries. If you're honest, you'll admit the issue. If you're a DNC dupe, you won't.

yep California has more people than 7 of those countries....

But the retards on the left whine "why can't our country of 400 million people have healthcare just like that little Scandinavian country with 5 million?"

LOL

So it is merely a question of numbers? Not scale?

Ok. All of you on the right who hate America leave. And the rest of us will set up healthcare for all.

it has nothing to do with loving America or hating it......it has to do with everyone agreeing on what type of care and how to pay for it......good luck with getting everyone to say yay....

I was one who until a couple years ago would have said Nay. Then I spent the last couple years fighting with the insurance company over paying for the meds my wife needs. That battle has made me far more willing to say Yay. If nothing else than to bankrupt the insurance companies.

My wife has gone from hell no to socialized medicine to wondering when it will come about. My wife is more conservative than I am.

The Byzantine bullshit I’ve had to deal with regarding the insurance company makes the IRS rules and regulations appear clear snd concise by comparison.

Let me give you an example. The insurance company would pay for a cast for my broken ankle. But they would not pay for the plastic boot that was used. Why? Well the cast is a permanent device. The boot is temporary. Even though the boot made hygiene much easier that didn’t matter.

Then the bills came due and the broken ankle cost me several thousand dollars. The insurance company only pays usual and customary. I can’t find who actually charges this usual and customary amount despite searching for a long time.

So the insurance companies can take a flying fuck at a rolling donut. Bring on the socialized medicine. It can’t be any worse than the crap I deal with every god damned month. And if some insurance executives have to sell their ski resorts. So much the better.

So you want medical care based on rules and regulations similar to our federal tax code and subject to the federal bureaucracy . Enjoy.

 

[SavannahMann]

Why do Republicans like going without healthcare, or receiving ridiculous bills in the mail from their healthcare providers?

Let's take a look at the Top Ten.

The U.S.? #22.

1. Sweden
2. Germany
3. Denmark
4. Canada
5. Switzerland
6. Netherlands
7. Norway
8. United Kingdom
9. Finland
10. Japan

Socialism.............

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/countries-with-the-most-well-developed-public-health-care-system

Now list the populations of those countries. If you're honest, you'll admit the issue. If you're a DNC dupe, you won't.

yep California has more people than 7 of those countries....

But the retards on the left whine "why can't our country of 400 million people have healthcare just like that little Scandinavian country with 5 million?"

LOL

So it is merely a question of numbers? Not scale?

Ok. All of you on the right who hate America leave. And the rest of us will set up healthcare for all.

it has nothing to do with loving America or hating it......it has to do with everyone agreeing on what type of care and how to pay for it......good luck with getting everyone to say yay....

I was one who until a couple years ago would have said Nay. Then I spent the last couple years fighting with the insurance company over paying for the meds my wife needs. That battle has made me far more willing to say Yay. If nothing else than to bankrupt the insurance companies.

My wife has gone from hell no to socialized medicine to wondering when it will come about. My wife is more conservative than I am.

The Byzantine bullshit I’ve had to deal with regarding the insurance company makes the IRS rules and regulations appear clear snd concise by comparison.

Let me give you an example. The insurance company would pay for a cast for my broken ankle. But they would not pay for the plastic boot that was used. Why? Well the cast is a permanent device. The boot is temporary. Even though the boot made hygiene much easier that didn’t matter.

Then the bills came due and the broken ankle cost me several thousand dollars. The insurance company only pays usual and customary. I can’t find who actually charges this usual and customary amount despite searching for a long time.

So the insurance companies can take a flying fuck at a rolling donut. Bring on the socialized medicine. It can’t be any worse than the crap I deal with every god damned month. And if some insurance executives have to sell their ski resorts. So much the better.

So you want medical care based on rules and regulations similar to our federal tax code and subject to the federal bureaucracy . Enjoy.

We already have that. You want to pretend we don’t. The bureaucracy is at the Insurance Company as well as the Federal Government.

 

[Rigby5]

rightwinger I just looked it up, Denmark provides Free testing for preggies......most all expectant mothers who have a fetus with a chromosome issue fetus--abort in Denmark. Apparently, their culture supports common sense and Eugenics...

I like this .....................this saves the family and the kids and the government lots of hardache and grief.....and it will in the long term remove a alot of genetic issues out of the denmark population.

The master race?

You're as sick as they are

There is no reason to not have the best children you can.
Why bother with something defective, when you can save child birth for the best you can?
If the child has a defect, like spinal bifida, you can't let them have children, even if they survive.
It would be cruel.
Much more human to abort.

 

[Rigby5]

LordBrownTrout I live in florida where lots of canadians spend their time-----when they get really sick, instead of waiting in canada with their rationed care for things like hip surgery---they come to the US to have it done. Canadas health care suck.

Hip surgery is not an urgent need. Most people go for years before they finally get it.
I would get it done for free in Canada rather than pay $100,000 here

Hip surgery is a lot more urgent than a Sex Change or an abortion, I'll tell you that for sure.

It isn't an "emergency" but it is needed, particularly in the current age where more and more doctors are hesitant to help their patients cope with the pain with oxy scrips.

If I needed it, I would rather get it done by a Competent surgeon, not some socialized medicine quack. Its still a medical challenge, and even native born Canadians like Alex Trebek come to America when they have a health challenge instead of relying on Canada's failed system.

You have to wait for hip surgery in Canada, maybe six months, but you will not receive a bill

In the US, you may wait six weeks and face a substantial bill later

You are not addressing the issue of "Quality" here at all, and that's where your argument fails.

American surgeons are the finest in the world, and the best always costs more. When British subject Mick Jagger needed complicated heart surgery, he came to America even though he could have received the procedure for less in England.


BTW, if America wasn't next door to Canada, the wait for hips would be a lot longer there. The American medical system provides an alternative for Canadians who care about their health and won't wait.

Wrong.
Average health care in the US is much WORSE than the rest of the world.
The fact we have a few of the finest doctors does not mean we get the advantage from them.
Only the very wealthy do.

 

[Rigby5]

Why do Republicans like going without healthcare, or receiving ridiculous bills in the mail from their healthcare providers?

Let's take a look at the Top Ten.

The U.S.? #22.

1. Sweden
2. Germany
3. Denmark
4. Canada
5. Switzerland
6. Netherlands
7. Norway
8. United Kingdom
9. Finland
10. Japan

Socialism.............

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/countries-with-the-most-well-developed-public-health-care-system

Now list the populations of those countries. If you're honest, you'll admit the issue. If you're a DNC dupe, you won't.

yep California has more people than 7 of those countries....

But the retards on the left whine "why can't our country of 400 million people have healthcare just like that little Scandinavian country with 5 million?"

LOL

So it is merely a question of numbers? Not scale?

Ok. All of you on the right who hate America leave. And the rest of us will set up healthcare for all.

it has nothing to do with loving America or hating it......it has to do with everyone agreeing on what type of care and how to pay for it......good luck with getting everyone to say yay....

I was one who until a couple years ago would have said Nay. Then I spent the last couple years fighting with the insurance company over paying for the meds my wife needs. That battle has made me far more willing to say Yay. If nothing else than to bankrupt the insurance companies.

My wife has gone from hell no to socialized medicine to wondering when it will come about. My wife is more conservative than I am.

The Byzantine bullshit I’ve had to deal with regarding the insurance company makes the IRS rules and regulations appear clear snd concise by comparison.

Let me give you an example. The insurance company would pay for a cast for my broken ankle. But they would not pay for the plastic boot that was used. Why? Well the cast is a permanent device. The boot is temporary. Even though the boot made hygiene much easier that didn’t matter.

Then the bills came due and the broken ankle cost me several thousand dollars. The insurance company only pays usual and customary. I can’t find who actually charges this usual and customary amount despite searching for a long time.

So the insurance companies can take a flying fuck at a rolling donut. Bring on the socialized medicine. It can’t be any worse than the crap I deal with every god damned month. And if some insurance executives have to sell their ski resorts. So much the better.

So you want medical care based on rules and regulations similar to our federal tax code and subject to the federal bureaucracy . Enjoy.

The federal tax codes are deliberately cryptic and corrupt because they are manipulated by the wealthy.
A public health care system would only be effected by doctors, voters, and patients, so would not have a source of corruption.

 

[Wyatt earp]

rightwinger I just looked it up, Denmark provides Free testing for preggies......most all expectant mothers who have a fetus with a chromosome issue fetus--abort in Denmark. Apparently, their culture supports common sense and Eugenics...

I like this .....................this saves the family and the kids and the government lots of hardache and grief.....and it will in the long term remove a alot of genetic issues out of the denmark population.

The master race?

You're as sick as they are

There is no reason to not have the best children you can.
Why bother with something defective, when you can save child birth for the best you can?
If the child has a defect, like spinal bifida, you can't let them have children, even if they survive.
It would be cruel.
Much more human to abort.

Yup another master race