This quote from a Reagan appointed judge perfectly encapsulates trump's first two 1/2 weeks.

[Mac-7]

Agreed, but it sure as shit wasn't intended to accommodate illegal aliens, and that distinction should be codified by SCOTUS.

I want it to change and I think it can be

 

[Lesh]

The term 'birthright citizenship' does NOT exist in the Constitution. No Supreme Court case has ever said the off spring of an illegal alien is a citizen.

The 14th Amendment citizenship clause was to give freed slaves and freed blacks citizenship, to put teeth into the 1866 Civil Rights Act because the 'Dred Scott' ruling had said backs could not be citizens.

There's a reason Congress had to pass a law in 1921 to give American Indians citizenship.

Oddly the 14th doesn't mention slaves

 

[Lesh]

I want it to change and I think it can be

Offer up a Constitutional Amendment..Lotsa luck

 

[IDIOCRACY]

Judge slams Trump while extending block on birthright citizenship order​

A federal judge in Seattle has accused President Donald Trump of brazenly defying the law by seeking to end birthright citizenship in the United States.

U.S. District Judge John Coughenour said during a hearing Thursday that Trump’s executive order is flagrantly unconstitutional, and he extended a temporary hold on the policy.

The executive order is now subject to two nationwide injunctions issued by separate judges on consecutive days. The injunctions keep the policy on ice while legal challenges proceed.

Coughenour, an appointee of President Ronald Reagan, let loose on Trump for his dismissive approach toward legal constraints.

“It has become ever more apparent that to our president, the rule of law is but an impediment to his policy goals. The rule of law is, according to him, something to navigate around or simply ignore, whether that be for political or personal gain,” the judge said. “Nevertheless, in this courtroom and under my watch, the rule of law is a bright beacon which I intend to follow.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/06/judge-slams-trump-birthright-citizenship-00202928

It's good to see this coming from a conservative judge. It tells that while congressional Repubs are too afraid to speak out about the initiation of autocratic rule there are some rank and file members of the party who are not.

I was heartened by his words since they indicate Dem's are not the only ones who see what is happening. If the shocking lawlessness and abuses of power continue I think we'll be hearing from more Repubs like Judge Coughenour.

The judge injected politics into it. The amend. was added in 1868 while a democrat confederate was POTUS, BTW. Can't say what the motive was, but if it came with good intentions it lacked vision. They should change it to a parent must be a US citizen, if not just the mother.

Today the birthright BS is taken advantage of. Often a license to remain in the U.S. cuz your kid is a citizen. Since when should we award bad behavior?

 

[berg80]

Offer up a Constitutional Amendment..Lotsa luck

The lack of sufficient support for a constitutional amendment to change the 14th A is shared by trump's efforts to end congressionally created agencies. He doesn't have the votes so he's trying to do it by executive fiat.

 

[Mac-7]

Offer up a Constitutional Amendment..Lotsa luck

I think we can get around that

Birthright citizenship for illegal aliens rests on a split decision by the supreme court in 1898

That can be fixed without an amendment

 

[jc456]

Only if you can point out their conflict of interest.

Don’t they see their own? Any different?

 

[pknopp]

Don’t they see their own? Any different?

Some do or should, like Thomas. Is that a problem also? Yes.

 

[Orangecat]

This quote from a Reagan appointed judge perfectly encapsulates trump's first two 1/2 weeks.​

Wouldn't two 1/2 weeks be one week? Math.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

He's a senile POS and will be overruled. Next.

How would he be overruled?

 

[jc456]

Some do or should, like Thomas. Is that a problem also? Yes.

Again, no one should be allowed ever cause the judge wants to be a dictator. Looking for how this is constitutional

 

[Orangecat]

How would he be overruled?

Via decision by a higher court.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Via decision by a higher court.

Based on what? The president can't change the Constitution with the flick of a pen.

 

[blackhawk]

 

[excalibur]

Oddly the 14th doesn't mention slaves

Slavery isn't mentioned anywhere in the Constitution. So I guess slavery never existed in America

 

[Orangecat]

Based on what? The president can't change the Constitution with the flick of a pen.

It's the interpretation that's being questioned, and the SCOTUS will clarify.

 

[Lesh]

Slavery isn't mentioned anywhere in the Constitution. So I guess slavery never existed in America

Hey stupid. The claim was that the 14th only dealt with slaves

Nowhere does it say that

Keep up

 

[Seymour Flops]

Good.

Let unelected judges block the elected president from doing what he was elected to do.

Even reasonable Democrats, who did not vote for Trump can see that the programs he has paused funding for are not worthy of taxpayers hard earned money. They will not appreciate judges, saying no you have to keep spending it.

The voters need to see how much power the judiciary has grabbed for itself from both the legislative and the executive branch. Then Republicans can win by promising to reform judicial power even if it takes a constitutional amendment to do so.

The midterms will be a disaster for your party.

 

[excalibur]

Hey stupid. The claim was that the 14th only dealt with slaves

Nowhere does it say that

Keep up

NIce ad hominem.

LOL

Everyone KNOWS that the citizenship clause in the 14th was aimed at freedmen.

 

[Lesh]

NIce ad hominem.

LOL

Everyone KNOWS that the citizenship clause in the 14th was aimed at freedmen.

Why didn’t it say that then?