‘A Moral, Ethical, Legal, Constitutional Travesty’

[Mac1958]

To many locked on party mentality, Not enough looking for good stuff that serves us all.

That's exactly what our "system" incentivizes and rewards.

So that's what the players do.

 

[pknopp]

It is...And now, every morning, you wake up and hopefully brush your teeth, and don't get all upset at the up coming day under a Trump presidency...I doubt that's the case though...

But, either way, you'd never be honest enough to tell us...

 

[j-mac]

Biden didn’t do shit to Trump.

Except collude with State level AG's and possibly Judges to "get Shorty"...

Garland and the DOJ slow walked charges … many for which Trump was impeached

In a legal sense that's called putting him in a box...It's a strategy that was supposed to discourage him from running again...Thank God it didn't work.

And Trump was convicted by a STATE court… which had nothing at ALL to do with Biden

Bull freakin' shit! Biden and Barry O were behind these so called prosecutions.

Face it… we have a criminal in the White House doing crimey things all the time

Nope, you're confused, Biden is not Presient anymore.

 

[berg80]

Ignorance is passing off some twaddle from a group of liberals sitting around a table, quibbling on how to arrive at a conclusion already decided, and calling that a debate...

They are on opposite sides of the debate.

 

[j-mac]

Pretty funny...And what are you trying to say with your reformed Meth addict song? That you don't care?

Yeah, that's why you're in here everyday arguing against anything Trump....Stupid ****.

 

[berg80]

Except collude with State level AG's

That's a debunked conspiracy theory.

 

[j-mac]

They are on opposite sides of the debate.

They are on opposite sides of the process, not the conclusion....Who cares how they arrive at the stupid, the point is they do.

 

[pknopp]

Pretty funny...And what are you trying to say with your reformed Meth addict song? That you don't care?

Yeah, that's why you're in here everyday arguing against anything Trump....Stupid ****.

I argued against Bidens programs and his wars also.

 

[j-mac]

That's debunked conspiracy theory.

Yeah, bullshit....You think because you say so that makes it a fact? GTFOH....

 

[j-mac]

I argued against Bidens programs and his wars also.

LOL....Sure you did....

 

[berg80]

Except collude with State level AG's

Biden and the case​

Trump repeated his frequent claim that the Manhattan case in which Trump was convicted “is all done by Biden and his people” and “in total conjunction with white house and the DOJ,” the federal Department of Justice.

Facts First: There is no basis for Trump’s claim. There is no evidence that President Joe Biden, his White House aides or the federal Justice Department had any role in launching or running Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s prosecution – and Bragg, a Democrat, is a locally elected official who does not report to the federal government. The indictment in the case was approved by a grand jury of ordinary citizens.

Trump has repeatedly invoked a lawyer on Bragg’s team, Matthew Colangelo, while making such claims; Colangelo left the Justice Department in 2022 to join the district attorney’s office as senior counsel to Bragg. But there is no evidence that Biden had anything to do with Colangelo’s employment decision. Colangelo and Bragg had been colleagues before Bragg was elected Manhattan district attorney in 2021.

Before Colangelo worked at the Justice Department, he and Bragg worked at the same time in the office of New York’s state attorney general, where Colangelo investigated Trump’s charity and Trump’s financial practices and was involved in bringing various lawsuits against the Trump administration.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/31/politics/fact-check-trump-post-conviction-speech

Got any other conspiracy theories you want to share?

 

[j-mac]

Biden and the case​

Trump repeated his frequent claim that the Manhattan case in which Trump was convicted “is all done by Biden and his people” and “in total conjunction with white house and the DOJ,” the federal Department of Justice.

Facts First: There is no basis for Trump’s claim. There is no evidence that President Joe Biden, his White House aides or the federal Justice Department had any role in launching or running Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s prosecution – and Bragg, a Democrat, is a locally elected official who does not report to the federal government. The indictment in the case was approved by a grand jury of ordinary citizens.

Trump has repeatedly invoked a lawyer on Bragg’s team, Matthew Colangelo, while making such claims; Colangelo left the Justice Department in 2022 to join the district attorney’s office as senior counsel to Bragg. But there is no evidence that Biden had anything to do with Colangelo’s employment decision. Colangelo and Bragg had been colleagues before Bragg was elected Manhattan district attorney in 2021.

Before Colangelo worked at the Justice Department, he and Bragg worked at the same time in the office of New York’s state attorney general, where Colangelo investigated Trump’s charity and Trump’s financial practices and was involved in bringing various lawsuits against the Trump administration.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/31/politics/fact-check-trump-post-conviction-speech

Got any other conspiracy theories you want to share?

Except for the facts that
1. Biden was know to have met with the prosecutors involved, in the oval office.

2. The #3 at DoJ stepped down to take a significantly lower position in a local DA's office to help prosecute...

etc. etc....Liberals think American's are stupid...We see what was going on here....

 

[berg80]

Except for the facts that
1. Biden was know to have met with the prosecutors involved, in the oval office.

2. The #3 at DoJ stepped down to take a significantly lower position in a local DA's office to help prosecute...

etc. etc....Liberals think American's are stupid...We see what was going on here....

Got any other conspiracy theories you want to share? I don't think Americans are stupid. But you are.

Facts First: There is no basis for Trump’s claim. There is no evidence that President Joe Biden, his White House aides or the federal Justice Department had any role in launching or running Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s prosecution – and Bragg, a Democrat, is a locally elected official who does not report to the federal government. The indictment in the case was approved by a grand jury of ordinary citizens.

 

[Nostra]

Was firing an AG an official act?

Did criminal charges arise from that?

And yes, yes it is. The AG serves at the pleasure of the President, moron.

 

[Nostra]

I argued against Bidens programs and his wars also.

 

[Kondor3]

Birthright Citizenship for a newborn with at least one US citizen-parent is Righteous.

Birthright Citizenship for a newborn with no US citizen-parent is National Suicide.

The present government argument about district-level judgments is embarrassingly weak.

Instead, the government needs to hammer on the "jurisdiction" aspect of the 14th and find a loophole for SCOTUS to jump through.

 

[Mac-7]

On Thursday, the Supreme Court takes up a deceptively simple legal question that happens to be one of the most consequential of the second Trump era so far: Can district court judges block executive actions throughout the whole country?

The use of so-called nationwide injunctions has been controversial within legal circles for years, but President Donald Trump’s second term has brought the practice to the forefront of American politics. Many of the administration’s signature initiatives have been blocked or temporarily put on hold as a result of nationwide injunctions, and Trump officials have expressed outrage and indignation at the notion that lower court judges can stymie their work — despite the fact that Trump and White House officials like Stephen Miller often sought or championed such injunctions against the Biden administration.

The oral arguments were prompted by a series of injunctions blocking Trump’s move to end birthright citizenship, though it is unclear whether or to what extent the justices will address the underlying merits of the executive order, which have been roundly rejected by every court and virtually every independent analyst that has considered the matter.

Partisan politics aside, the legal question about injunctions is a legitimately tricky one — even among experts with similar political outlooks.

To hash out this debate, we’ve convened two experts — both liberals, and both ardent opponents of Trump’s political program — who sharply disagree about nationwide injunctions. (The term, as we discuss, is a slight misnomer; the key legal question is whether courts can grant “relief” that applies to parties who are not litigating before them.)

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/05/15/district-courts-nationwide-injunctions-supreme-court-trump-00342252

Trump and allies celebrated court orders against Biden they now claim are ‘tyrannical’​

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/18/politics/trump-biden-court-orders

So........the regime is being hypocritical. Imagine my surprise. I doubt conservatives had a problem with this ruling from a district court judge being enforced nationwide.

Federal judge in Texas suspends FDA approval of abortion pill​

Federal judge in Texas suspends FDA approval of abortion pill

The ruling from U.S. District Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk in Amarillo could potentially upend access to medication abortion nationwide.

www.texastribune.org

All that aside, there's quite a bit at stake here. If there are valid legal arguments to be made on both sides it seems like a fait accompli as to who will prevail with a SC packed with ultra conservatives.

Trump and Homan are arresting hundreds per day

And they will all be deported within days or werks

Plus its a foolproof system

ICE has a list of criminal illegal alien scattered across the country

When Homan swoops down on the known violent criminals he also picks up all the other illegals within arm’s reach at the same time and they get deported too

Although everyone may not be sent to what open border globalists call a “gulag” in el salvadore

Just the worst of the worst

The rest just get a free ride back to their home country

What a great plan

 

[Mac-7]

Birthright Citizenship for a newborn with no US citizen-parent is National Suicide.

Agreed

 

[berg80]

Just the worst of the worst

That's a lie.

 

[j-mac]

That's a lie.

Get a couple more liberals, and you can debate it.....