‘A Moral, Ethical, Legal, Constitutional Travesty’

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On Thursday, the Supreme Court takes up a deceptively simple legal question that happens to be one of the most consequential of the second Trump era so far: Can district court judges block executive actions throughout the whole country?

The use of so-called nationwide injunctions has been controversial within legal circles for years, but President Donald Trump’s second term has brought the practice to the forefront of American politics. Many of the administration’s signature initiatives have been blocked or temporarily put on hold as a result of nationwide injunctions, and Trump officials have expressed outrage and indignation at the notion that lower court judges can stymie their work — despite the fact that Trump and White House officials like Stephen Miller often sought or championed such injunctions against the Biden administration.

The oral arguments were prompted by a series of injunctions blocking Trump’s move to end birthright citizenship, though it is unclear whether or to what extent the justices will address the underlying merits of the executive order, which have been roundly rejected by every court and virtually every independent analyst that has considered the matter.

Partisan politics aside, the legal question about injunctions is a legitimately tricky one — even among experts with similar political outlooks.

To hash out this debate, we’ve convened two experts — both liberals, and both ardent opponents of Trump’s political program — who sharply disagree about nationwide injunctions. (The term, as we discuss, is a slight misnomer; the key legal question is whether courts can grant “relief” that applies to parties who are not litigating before them.)

Trump and allies celebrated court orders against Biden they now claim are ‘tyrannical’​


So........the regime is being hypocritical. Imagine my surprise. I doubt conservatives had a problem with this ruling from a district court judge being enforced nationwide.

Federal judge in Texas suspends FDA approval of abortion pill​


All that aside, there's quite a bit at stake here. If there are valid legal arguments to be made on both sides it seems like a fait accompli as to who will prevail with a SC packed with ultra conservatives.
 
All that aside, there's quite a bit at stake here. If there are valid legal arguments to be made on both sides it seems like a fait accompli as to who will prevail with a SC packed with ultra conservatives.
If you can't get your way with the courts, you change the rules.

The world has seen it before.
 
97 times out of a 100 the Supreme Court gets it right regardless of make up
 
No other countries on this PLANET let pregnant women enter their territory and grant citizenship to their babies.
NONE.
It is national SUICIDE to let this continue.
The Framers never envisioned such a thing possible, and there MUST BE AN ADJUSTMENT to our laws to FORBID such insanity.
 
97 times out of a 100 the Supreme Court gets it right regardless of make up
Even if that were true, the court's blunders have been exceedingly consequential (especially the Roberts court).......and not in a good way. Their errors have changed the direction of the country on everything from gun rights to abortion to campaign finance to presidential immunity.
 

In Defense of Nationwide Injunctions​


She makes a compelling argument.
 
Well, that's the rule when you're sent by God to Save America from Satan.

Trump is very holy, you know.
A trumple suggested to me yesterday on another thread that Dotard was sent by god. Surely the cloud fairy could do better than to send a clueless, amoral blowhard to do his bidding.
 
A trumple suggested to me yesterday on another thread that Dotard was sent by god. Surely the cloud fairy could do better than to send a clueless, amoral blowhard to do his bidding.
Well, these are MAGA Christians™, not serious Christians.
 
A trumple suggested to me yesterday on another thread that Dotard was sent by god. Surely the cloud fairy could do better than to send a clueless, amoral blowhard to do his bidding.
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You believe that.




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Even if that were true, the court's blunders have been exceedingly consequential (especially the Roberts court).......and not in a good way. Their errors have changed the direction of the country on everything from gun rights to abortion to campaign finance to presidential immunity.

Of those they only got immunity wrong. Granted that was a big one.
 
On Thursday, the Supreme Court takes up a deceptively simple legal question that happens to be one of the most consequential of the second Trump era so far: Can district court judges block executive actions throughout the whole country?

The use of so-called nationwide injunctions has been controversial within legal circles for years, but President Donald Trump’s second term has brought the practice to the forefront of American politics. Many of the administration’s signature initiatives have been blocked or temporarily put on hold as a result of nationwide injunctions, and Trump officials have expressed outrage and indignation at the notion that lower court judges can stymie their work — despite the fact that Trump and White House officials like Stephen Miller often sought or championed such injunctions against the Biden administration.

The oral arguments were prompted by a series of injunctions blocking Trump’s move to end birthright citizenship, though it is unclear whether or to what extent the justices will address the underlying merits of the executive order, which have been roundly rejected by every court and virtually every independent analyst that has considered the matter.

Partisan politics aside, the legal question about injunctions is a legitimately tricky one — even among experts with similar political outlooks.

To hash out this debate, we’ve convened two experts — both liberals, and both ardent opponents of Trump’s political program — who sharply disagree about nationwide injunctions. (The term, as we discuss, is a slight misnomer; the key legal question is whether courts can grant “relief” that applies to parties who are not litigating before them.)

Trump and allies celebrated court orders against Biden they now claim are ‘tyrannical’​


So........the regime is being hypocritical. Imagine my surprise. I doubt conservatives had a problem with this ruling from a district court judge being enforced nationwide.

Federal judge in Texas suspends FDA approval of abortion pill​


All that aside, there's quite a bit at stake here. If there are valid legal arguments to be made on both sides it seems like a fait accompli as to who will prevail with a SC packed with ultra conservatives.
And, here we get a rare glimpse into how progressive liberals "debate" their hatred for Trump....As the article says, two liberal lawyers, that are "ardent opponents of Trump".... No, opposing opinion, at least in the conclusions. Only at how they arrive at their conclusions....So, they start with the premise that Trump is wrong (the conclusion) then work to build the argument....

This is the bubble that progressive liberals live in...Sad.
 

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