Have you ever actually researched or verified any of the things he posts? He is one of the most knowledgeable people I know when it comes to U.S. history in terms of our treaties, and policies and acts, etc as well as African American history and how all of the previous impacts us from the inception of this country to today.
Yes, I have, many many times. And I do agree with you, he is very well educated, and he does know what he is talking about. . . but, OTH, I disagree with you, as many times, he, like many in the black community, he employs disingenuous tactics that have nothing to do with race, but have to do with politics, but he wishes to conflate them WITH race, to make the dominate culture feel a sense of guilt or responsibility.
IM2 is not a racist, he's black man who knows of what he speaks and I don't know if you've noticed this or not, but on this boards, you get called all types of names - racist, black extremists, terrorists, etc. - if you correct the misconceptions of the white racists here (that's giving them the benefit of the doubt that they are not just knowingly lying) or disagree with them. All of that hostility, nastiness and vitriol is completely unnecessary and doesn't forest communication which is why for the most time, he doesn't bother making his words or comments more palatable to the reader. They respond the same way whether we're being nice, civil, snarky, sarcastic, nasty to them in turn - it's always the same lying bs so why bother? (this is my speculation, not anything he's ever said to me).
Ah. . . see? This is where we disagree, and you refuse to look at, or take any of the research I have done seriously... . you show YOUR implicit bias. We all have it. I have absolutely no doubt, all his life, he has been called names, been discriminated against, and otherwise been treated poorly. OTH, he also has very, VERY, left-wing politics. Almost to the point of standing against the very tenets of what the nation was founded on. He can't sit here on this forum and post, that HIS politics represent the only politics of the black community, and then, when challenged by other posters of this forum that there, ARE, indeed, other highly respected members of the black community who do not share he POV, he just slanders those thinkers, and declares, that these are "sell-outs," or "house n*****s," etc. When a person conflates a political POV, with the VERY serious issue of race relations? We, in America, are NEVER, EVER, going to solve this issue.
I generally start off civil but there is only so much "willful ignorance" I can take because I start losing my patience and responses begin to get more curt, ill-tempered, etc.
I agree with that. And? I do too. Unfortunately? IM2 NEVER DOES. He always equates anyone that does not support leftist politics as RACISTS. There can be no conversation with such a position. I have studied both philosophy, so I am well educated in critical theory, and I have studied cultural anthropology, so, I am also aware, that, in the main, the American Indian Community, the American Hispanic Community, and the American Black Community, all have different mores than the general White community. One thing that is never addressed in the MSM, is. . . why, when you are in a major city, is, that nine times out of ten, when you see someone that is homeless, hungry, destitute, etc.? It is always going to be a white person? Did you ever wonder about that? All other ethnic communities besides the white communities they have stronger ethics of "communiartianism," which is to say, the social bonds, and the expectation that you will help your own kind when they are in trouble. This is a corollary, just as in white, Asian and Jewish communities there is a lot of this, networking tradition. But? If you screw up, and if you fail and preform poorly and disgrace yourself in these white, Asian, or Jewish cultures? YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN. This? Informs our politics in this nation, but is NOT talked about in the schools or the media. . .
As far as him not having a good solution, he posts the solution ALL OF THE TIME, yet you all act as if you don't even see it, not that it's his place to find a solution. The problem that causes the most ills for African Americans is white racism, in all of it's incarnations, past, presence and future.
No. . the solution he always tends to have in mind is redistribution. This is the solution of the far-left. I have worked and lived in low income and black communities that lived off the government. White? Black? Hispanic? It doesn't matter. Unless you change the culture and educate the public? Unless folks obtain this success for themselves? UBI, redistribution? That won't work. What the schools and the state talk about as, "white privledge," as being an economic start, ahead of either American Indian, or Hispanics or Black Americans? This is a false paradigm in the material world. What it really is? IS KNOWLEDGE. It is a culture. It is knowledge and values about how this type of system operates. It is a set of values, and why America is the number one destination for immigrants who want to have agency to make something of their lives.
Believe it or not, there are many highly respected black leaders, and have been since reconstruction, that DO NOT believe redistribution is the way to bring dignity and equality to the black American community. When he stops equating RACISM with Leftism? Then folks will take him seriously. Do I agree that government policies have unfairly treated the black community in the past? OF COURSE. But is that what is holding them back now? Of course not. If you look at the Chinese American community that built our trans-American railroads, they had the exact same discriminations. Yet? Because of their community values? They have no problems blending and getting ahead. There terrible truth, which you refuse to acknowledge, is the culture that was fostered within slave communities, which is a sharing/communitarian culture, which continues to this day. It discourages folks from getting ahead, and it also does not teach folks the basic of individualism and money management.
On a fairly regular basis we hear "you all have had affirmative action for 55 years now, it's time to abolish it". 55 years out of the 254 years that the United States has been in existence. That like driving along at 60 miles per hour, someone saying STOP! and expecting the car to immediately come to a standstill instead of taking the 6 seconds it needs to decelerate back down to zero. By the laws of physics, it's not possible and by way of analogy, it's not possible to reverse more than 3 decades of racial discrimination against people of African descent in the equivalent of less than 1 second.
Most reasonable and logical conservatives, DO NOT, have a problem with AA. Why? Because they are educated in, as I have posted on here many times, into the concepts of IN-GROUP, OUT-GROUP biases, and implicit bias. If you were not born into the dominate group, OF COURSE, you are born with a disadvantage. WE DO NEED programs to level the playing fields so that some of our societies geniuses from minority groups can be given a fair chance. I am not sure that many folks have problem with this. This has nothing to do with politics. I don't disagree with that.
The solution is twofold but it can't be done by black people.
1. If you're white and you're a racist, stop being a racist
2. If you're white and you're not a racist, don't let those who are do or say things in your presence that are racist without calling them out.
I think folks will do that. . . but when people bring up anyone on this list?
Famous Black Conservatives List
He decides? Oh, well, "race traitor"
That does not solve the problem of race in America. . He ISN'T HERE TO DISCUSS RACE, he is using the race card as a cover for politics!
I realize that may be uncomfortable and/or awkward for many of you to do so if you don't want to work on it on the personal level you can always
1. Become a legislative on the local level and do what you can to ensure that the laws that are passed and equitable for everyone, do what you can to ensure that the laws are enforced fairly and equitably, etc.
2. Go to a city council meeting, find out what you government and police brass are up to these days
3. And this touched me the most - many of my white friends, colleagues, and associates called me up and told me that they were there for me if there was anything I needed after the George Floyd video hit the media. I was especially touched when many of Jewish friends and associates reached out to let me know that they support me and if there was anything I needed to let them know and many of them openly support Black Lives Matter.
. . . as has been pointed out, on this site, several times, BLM has no legitimacy, for the same reason, IM2 has lost legitimacy. This racial issue is a serious issue for America, and IT SHOULD NOT BE A PARTISAN ISSUE! For BLM to ally itself with one party or another?
That makes it clearly, neo-marxism masquerading for racial equity. It was used as a tool for the Great Reset and global technocratic oligarchs. Nothing more.
Anyone who has been isolated, marginalized or targeted knows how amazing it is when people who are not of your tribe make a point to let you know that your fight is their fight as well and that they will stand next to you in it.
Agreed. Most of the folks I know, that aren't college educated, that are also minorities? They have no use for either party. Politics are bullshit. They are done with this all. They just want a fair, equal America.
They care more about when I help them in their everyday lives, then any of this bullshit. We agree with each other, Trump and Biden are both fools, so is everyone in D.C. And so is anyone else that tells us how to live our lives, or to hate each other. We are all in the same boat now, poor, struggling, and oppress by the establishment - and told that the other is the cause of our suffering, we know who the cause of our suffering really is at this point. . .
Inflation? The price of gas? The price of food? Are these racial issue?
