They should secede!

Peaceful secession would be great and would greatly limit the power of the central gov. Thus giving power back to the people. However the foolish statist neocons and progressives will murder all who try it. The oligarchy loves big centralized gov, which easily allows them to control and steal a nation's wealth. They will never relinquish their power peacefully.
 
The flyover is a separate nation, and should be.

Who's gonna feed you stupid fucks?

You think an oil cartel is hard to deal with? Try a food cartel.

You can make do without abundant oil, try going without food for a few weeks and let us know what happens.

Military Force? That's a laugh. You pussies would shit your pants at the first sound of gunfire.

You better be careful what you wish for, dirtbag.
California can feed all the blue states by itself


isnt California in the midst of dividing itself

--LOL
 
The beauty of how our system is supposed to work is, if you don't like how your states system works you can leave that state without leaving your Nation.

OP, just move somewhere you like.

Problem solved.
 
The libturds can have the east coast from maine to Virigina and the whole west coast, the normal people of the US can take the rest.
 
The beauty of how our system is supposed to work is, if you don't like how your states system works you can leave that state without leaving your Nation.

OP, just move somewhere you like.

Problem solved.
That may have been true a century ago...no longer. Thanks to a huge omnipresent tyrannical illegal central government.
 
Land of the free home of the brave


Yet NY thinks it is illegal to leave?

When did that happen?

What does she think, this is hotel California?
 
Fighting a civil war don't prove it is illegal, again what laws were passed that says it is,illegal?

I can't think of any

The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution makes it illegal.
Wrong. That clause has nothing to do with secession.

Of course it does. Secession by its very nature REQUIRES violating the Supremacy Clause.


Yes, dipshit. If a group of states decided to secede they would ignore the constitution. Thats what secession means---------leaving the USA.

Do you think the states of the former USSR were bound by the Russian constitution when they left?

Your argument is just foolish.
 
Fighting a civil war don't prove it is illegal, again what laws were passed that says it is,illegal?

I can't think of any

The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution makes it illegal.
Wrong. That clause has nothing to do with secession.

Of course it does. Secession by its very nature REQUIRES violating the Supremacy Clause.


Yes, dipshit. If a group of states decided to secede they would ignore the constitution. Thats what secession means---------leaving the USA.

Do you think the states of the former USSR were bound by the Russian constitution when they left?

Your argument is just foolish.

They agreed not to ignore the Constitution when they signed on. Sure, they can rebell, revolt, but that is what it is.

Plus, for a good starting place, the residents of a state are likely US citizens. They are under the protection of the United States. No individual state has the right to revoke those protections from an American citizen just because he happens to be a resident of that individual state.
 
Fighting a civil war don't prove it is illegal, again what laws were passed that says it is,illegal?

I can't think of any

The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution makes it illegal.
Wrong. That clause has nothing to do with secession.

Of course it does. Secession by its very nature REQUIRES violating the Supremacy Clause.


Yes, dipshit. If a group of states decided to secede they would ignore the constitution. Thats what secession means---------leaving the USA.

Do you think the states of the former USSR were bound by the Russian constitution when they left?

Your argument is just foolish.

They agreed not to ignore the Constitution when they signed on. Sure, they can rebell, revolt, but that is what it is.

Plus, for a good starting place, the residents of a state are likely US citizens. They are under the protection of the United States. No individual state has the right to revoke those protections from an American citizen just because he happens to be a resident of that individual state.


If you or a state decide to renounce your citizenship in the USA then you are no longer bound by the constitution of the USA. You, or your state or states become independent and are responsible for your own welfare, protection, etc.

I really don't see it happening, but the divide in this country is greater than ever before. I wish I knew how to reunite this country, but I don't.

the left and the right have totally opposite views on the role of the federal government and what individual freedom really means.
 
If we are having a secession, then lets do it right.

Arizona to Georgia on the southern border, the entire midwest except minnesota (a state that would elect Franken and Ventura belongs with the idiot left), all of florida except miami, Tenn, Kentucky, both carolinas, west virginia, all of virginia except the burbs of DC, montana, wyoming, colorado, utah, kansas, Iowa, nebraska, both dakotas, missouri except St Louis.

The US of libtardia would consist of the northeast and the west coast. actually the left could be two countries----east libtardia and west libtardia.
 
Today the issue is not secession. Liberals want conservatives out of their country maybe more than conservatives want to leave.

It's a mutually agreed upon split.
 

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