They call us Evil and we call them Evil and we are Both Right

David2004

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Whether it is Israel, the United States, Iraq, or Iran, the religious extremists are in control of the governments. The latest Israeli military assault on the people of Gaza and Lebanon has more to do with Iran’s nuclear and military program than the three captured Israeli soldiers. The nation’s leaders on both sides use verbal rhetoric that inflames an already bad situation making things worst.

The use of overwhelming military force to destroy nation’s infrastructure while going after a few bad elements within a nation is illegal and immoral. Both the United States and the State of Israel have both done this in their on going wars in the Middle East. It is the double standards of the United States and the State of Israel that are at the root of the problems in the Middle East. The biggest and latest of these double standard being the United States position on Iraq’s nuclear program and Israel’s nuclear program.

Clearly most of the people and nations in the world would prefer that Iran did not possess nuclear weapons. The same could be said about Israel and for that matter all of the other world’s military nuclear programs. Israel’s military nuclear program is unique in several ways. One being Israel is a small religious military state in the middle of the Arab world. For two Israel is a state that has been in a state of war since her conception. For three Israel has the largest military and military industrial complex within the Middle East. The fourth Israel was created and mandated by the western industrial nations onto the people of Palestine.

The Israelis provoked the Palestinian and Arab people into the latest war by their military actions leading up to the capture of the three Israeli soldiers. During the weeks and months leading up to the latest war the Israelis were doing target assassination of people in Gaza and Lebanon. The Israelis have carried out military bombing within Lebanon and Gaza before the latest escalation of the latest war. Today the people of Lebanon are getting a taste of what the Palestinian people have had to withstand since the creation of the State of Israel.

The United States and Israel may win the military war while losing the peace creating chaos and terror in the Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon and Iraq. This is weakening the position of the United States and the State of Israel among the international community of nations. It’s strengthening the position of the Islamic fundamentalists by being the victims of the Israeli-United States military industrial complex of war. The bottom line is that the international community has to enforce the “Rule of Internal Law” even handily. The Iranians have the same rights to be a religious military nuclear power as the Israelis. Clearly the people of the region and of the world would be a lot better off and safer if neither side possessed nuclear weapons. To say one side can while one side can’t is not fair, balance or just.
 
CSM said:
Not anymore.
say that again.

I don't want to contemplate a world where Hamas, Hizbollah, Al Quaida, etc., have the weapons of US or Israel.
 
Savages belong in the stone age. Thats where Hamas Hezbollah and Iran should all be.
 
Whether it is Israel, the United States, Iraq, or Iran, the religious extremists are in control of the governments.

It looks like moral equivalency is the the prime liberal ideology.
 
Abbey Normal said:
It looks like moral equivalency is the the prime liberal ideology.

Nah ...we're more than willing to do the "live and let live" thing. They are not, and are willing to murder and destroy in the name of their cause. That makes THEM the bad guys, and evil, and it makes David, as usual right on their d*cks.
 
The United States and the State of Israel have been sowing the seeds of war in the Middle East for years. Today people in parts of Israel are getting a small taste of the misery that the Palestinian people have been suffering under for more than sixty years. For so few people to spread so many seeds of war for so long is a crime in its self. There will be no peace in the Middle East until the Government of Israel are charged and tried with war crimes and reparation is made to the Palestinian and Arab people. The complicity of the United States and Israel government automatically disqualifies the United States from any official role in the trial except as a coconspirator.

Once the Israelis mend their warmongering ways and financial compensation is made to the Palestinian and Lebanese people. Then there will be a chance the other side can make the needed changes to go down the road for long-term peace. Israel, the United States, as well as the Arab nations need a twelve-step program that is customized for their individual needs of reform. All sides will have to make progress simultaneously in the twelve-step program.

The international community of nations cannot help to rebuild Lebanon and Palestine to have the Israelis destroy it again. The Israelis have been destroying lives of millions of Palestinian and Arab people while claiming to be the victim. The international community of nations cannot address the devastation in Lebanon without addressing the devastation in the West Bank and Gaza. The Israeli, Palestinian, and Arab governments must agree to the terms and conditions set upon them. Otherwise the cycle of escalating conflicts will continue with no one having any peace and security.

For things to get any better in this region a large presents of International Peacekeeping Forces will be needed in Lebanon, Syria, West Bank and Gaza. The Israelis will withdraw from the land of Shebba Farms Lebanon and the Golan Heights of Syria and International Peacekeeping forces will fill the security void. The same has to happen with the West Bank and Gaza for there to be a chance for long term peace.
 
I admire David. I can't think of too many people who could be WRONG so often, and still seem functional. It's comical to me - just seeing how jacked up somebody's perspective can be.
;)
 
GunnyL said:
Nah ...we're more than willing to do the "live and let live" thing. They are not, and are willing to murder and destroy in the name of their cause. That makes THEM the bad guys, and evil, and it makes David, as usual right on their d*cks.

Yes, the moral equivalency is on their part.
 
dmp said:
I admire David. I can't think of too many people who could be WRONG so often, and still seem functional. It's comical to me - just seeing how jacked up somebody's perspective can be.
;)

That's because he doesn't respond to (and may not even read) 99% of all responses to his posts. Ignorance is bliss.
 

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