To those of you that hate Israel and love Hamas...

[healthmyths]

Which of these actions is meant to bring about peace?

I have no idea! The person that put the link up never identified which action he was referring to that Israel was a warmonger!

 

[alang1216]

I have no idea! The person that put the link up never identified which action he was referring to that Israel was a warmonger!

Pick any action and you'd be right. None were in pursuit of peace.

 

[healthmyths]

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[healthmyths]

means nothing that answers the original question to the readers!
Which group considers the safety of their followers:
A group lead by 3 billionaires living in safety in Qatar or

A group that protects it's followers against the attack almost 20,000 rockets have hit southern Israel.

Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Reading your anti-Israel statements I take it you defend the 3 billionaires who live in safety in Qatar versus saving the lives of Palestinians as the Israeli government has saved their people. Hamas started this on 10/7/23 and
killed around 1,200 people and seized more than 200 hostages from inside Israel, according to the Israeli government.

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/07/g-s1-26634/october-7-israel-gaza-lebanon

So you defend terrorists is the correct answer and not a country that cares for its citizens!
Billionaires you defend while as of 3 December 2024, over 46,000 people (44,502 Palestinian and 1,706 Israeli)
and that's ok with you!

 

[gipper]

Stop being a fascist neo-Nazi Jew hater and Islamic Jihad supporter you dumb MFer!

And learn some real history.

You support genocide. Now who’s the Nazi?

If Israel kills all the Palestinians, do you still support it? I’m guessing yes…because you are a dumb MFing Nazi.

 

[healthmyths]

You support genocide. Now who’s the Nazi?

If Israel kills all the Palestinians, do you still support it? I’m guessing yes…because you are a dumb MFing Nazi.

So when 3 billionaires living in secure safe country like Qatar that made their billionaires partially from USA tax money AND the deaths of their followers authorize 20,000 rockets launched into Israel, that’s ok for you? Which leaders care more about the lives of their followers? Seems obvious to any normal human that Israel with the iron dome protecting their people and the 3 billionaires not caring to spend their billions protecting their people you are grossly uninformed and just plan ignorant!

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

So where is your proof that Israel's admission of a mistake is FALSE? Prove it.

Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded
the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity.

None of Israel's accusers can explain why Israel would deliberately attack an American ship at a time when the United States was Israel's only friend and supporter in the world.
Confusion in a long line of communications, which occurred in a tense atmosphere on both the American and Israeli sides (five messages from the Joint Chiefs of Staff for the ship to remain at least 25 miles - the last four said 100 miles - off the Egyptian coast arrived after the attack was over) is a more probable explanation.

Did Israel deliberately attack the USS Liberty?

Mitchell Bard's personal web site

www.mitchellbard.com

So Sherlock... where is your proof that Israel would be attacking a ship of the ONLY friend of Israel and supporter was the USA?

I've examined numerous reports, sources, listened to eye witness testimony including the ship's radio officer and so on. All of this is readily accessible to anyone who's prepared to spend some time looking at all this and then draw their own conclusion.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Israel strikes flour distribution line, kills 50 across Gaza

Palestinian death toll in besieged Gaza Strip rises to 44,758 amid relentless Israeli attacks, health authorities say.

aje.io

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Some history for context;
...
Israel is located in a region known to Jews as the Land of Israel, synonymous with the Palestine region, the Holy Land, and Canaan. In antiquity, it was home to the Canaanite civilization followed by the kingdoms of Israel and Judah.

(According to Jewish history and the Old Testament this land was assigned to them by the "Lord-God" JHWH)

Situated at a continental crossroad, the region experienced demographic changes under the rule of various empires from the Romans to the Ottomans.[23] European antisemitism in the late 19th century galvanized Zionism, which sought a Jewish homeland in Palestine and gained British support. After World War I, Britain occupied the region and established Mandatory Palestine in 1920. Increased Jewish immigration in the leadup to the Holocaust and British colonial policy led to intercommunal conflict between Jews and Arabs,[24][25] which escalated into a civil war in 1947 after the United Nations (UN) proposed partitioning the land between them.

There are some details you skipped over regarding the above. First the British as far back as 1919 met with leading Zionists to discuss options for expelling "Palestinian peasantry" from areas where Jewish migration had been targeting. This reveals that ethnic cleansing was part of the militant Zionist project decades before 1948's Nakba.

Also note that Israel has NEVER defined its own borders, never, they certainly do not confine their occupation to the partition plan.

Second Arabs leaders had objected to the British about the emerging plan to colonize Palestine with mainly European Jews. They feared that Arabs who would fall within the borders of whatever future state was setup and that those Arabs would wake up to find themselves under rule by foreign and hostile Zionist Jews, again this was expressed decades before 1948.

(Note that the United Nations partitioning was the original "two-state solution" which Israel was willing to abide by, but the neighboring Arab/Muslim states would not.

Why should they? Why would any sane person expect a people to welcome colonization by a terrorist group? You speak of "solution" but there wasn't a problem to solve! The problem that the "two state solution" claims to address is a problem that was itself created by the British and their support for colonization of Palestine by foreign Jews.

Their objective in attacking Israel was to eliminate the nation of Israel and any Jews there, if they didn't flee before being slaughtered.

Yes, the people of Palestine had a right - under the league of nations - to determine their own government, it's called the right to self determination and was and is a right. But the British in cahoots with Zionist leaders had their own plan which was to create a colony in Palestine with a Zionist government and impose that upon all the people who lived in the territory that would fall within the "borders" of the new state.

The partition plan was unacceptable to the Arab leaders who had already been betrayed by the British after they helped the British defeat the Ottomans in Palestine. The British had promised to work toward an independent Palestine where all the people (Arab, Jew etc) would be able to play a part in choosing a government. However the British lied and had already secretly agreed with the French and Russians on how Palestine would develop as the mandate came to an end.

The Arab/Muslim attack and terms invalidated the UN partition plan and made the stakes "all or nothing".
The Arabs/Muslims lost the war and then wanted to "indian givers" back to the origin settlement. Too late, THEY caused that boat to sail away.)

The Partition plan was illegal, it violated the people of Palestine's right to self determination by imposing a government on half the territory no Arab would or should accept a foreign colonial power like Britain, carving out terrortyory and installing a neo-fascist Jew supremacist government over non-Jews.

The State of Israel declared its establishment on 14 May 1948. The armies of neighboring Arab states invaded the area of the former Mandate the next day, beginning the First Arab–Israeli War. Subsequent armistice agreements established Israeli control over 77 percent of the former Mandate territory.[26][27][28] The majority of Palestinian Arabs were either expelled or fled in what is known as the Nakba, with those remaining becoming the new state's main minority.[29][30][31] Over the following decades, Israel's population increased greatly as the country received an influx of Jews who emigrated, fled or were expelled from the Muslim world.[32][33] .....

Note that the Jews fled/expelled from the Muslim world almost at same time as Palestinian Arabs left Israel.
{The rest of this Wiki excerpt gets into a Leftist biased text I don't honor with repeating here.}

Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Further History and Context:
....
During the 1950s, Israel was frequently attacked by Palestinian fedayeen, nearly always against civilians,[198] mainly from the Egyptian-occupied Gaza Strip,[199] leading to several Israeli reprisal operations. In 1956, the UK and France aimed at regaining control of the Suez Canal, which Egypt had nationalized. The continued blockade of the Suez Canal and Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping, together with increasing fedayeen attacks against Israel's southern population and recent Arab threatening statements, prompted Israel to attack Egypt.[200][201][202] Israel joined a secret alliance with the UK and France and overran the Sinai Peninsula in the Suez Crisis but was pressured to withdraw by the UN in return for guarantees of Israeli shipping rights.[203][204][205] The war resulted in significant reduction of Israeli border infiltration.[206]
....
In May 1967, Egypt massed its army near the border with Israel, expelled UN peacekeepers stationed in the Sinai Peninsula since 1957, and blocked Israel's access to the Red Sea.[216][217][218] Other Arab states mobilized their forces.[219] Israel reiterated that these actions were a casus belli and launched a pre-emptive strike (Operation Focus) against Egypt in June. Jordan, Syria and Iraq attacked Israel. In the Six-Day War, Israel captured and occupied the West Bank from Jordan, the Gaza Strip and Sinai Peninsula from Egypt, and the Golan Heights from Syria.[220] Jerusalem's boundaries were enlarged, incorporating East Jerusalem. The 1949 Green Line became the administrative boundary between Israel and the occupied territories.[221]

Following the 1967 war and the "Three Nos" resolution of the Arab League, Israel faced attacks from the Egyptians in the Sinai Peninsula during the 1967–1970 War of Attrition, and from Palestinian groups targeting Israelis in the occupied territories, globally, and in Israel. Most important among the Palestinian and Arab groups was the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), established in 1964, which initially committed itself to "armed struggle as the only way to liberate the homeland".[222] In the late 1960s and early 1970s, Palestinian groups launched attacks[223][224] against Israeli and Jewish targets around the world,[225] including a massacre of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich. The Israeli government responded with an assassination campaign against the organizers of the massacre, a bombing and a raid on the PLO headquarters in Lebanon.

On 6 October 1973, the Egyptian and Syrian armies launched a surprise attack against Israeli forces in the Sinai Peninsula and Golan Heights, opening the Yom Kippur War. The war ended on 25 October with Israel repelling Egyptian and Syrian forces but suffering great losses.[226] An internal inquiry exonerated the government of responsibility for failures before and during the war, but public anger forced Prime Minister Golda Meir to resign.[227][better source needed] In July 1976, an airliner was hijacked in flight from Israel to France by Palestinian guerrillas; Israeli commandos rescued 102 of 106 Israeli hostages.
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Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

As can be seen, Israel has been under constant attacks and threats of such since it's founding in 1948.
Israel's enemies do not want real peace with Israel and want Israel extinguished.

The rest is more or less irrelevant insofar as understanding the origin's of today's violence. Israel is a colonization of Palestine, by a Jew supremacist ideology that was hostile from the outset. Zionist gangs were compared by UK and US intelligence services as being formed "along Nazi lines" and Zionist organizations in Palestine during the years before 1948, had their own indoctrination schools for Jewish children and these were compared (again by US and UK intelligence) to "Hitler youth" camps and were just as racist and sinister.

Jews who were opposed to setting up a Jewish state (and there was a lot of these, Jews who did not want a Zionist state) were targeted in various ways by extremist Zionists, some were even killed - that is Jews were prepared to kill Jews (and this is right after the Holocaust) in their fanatical quest to establish the disgusting apartheid crap hole we see today.

I don't know why you left all of this stuff out, perhaps you can explain that to the people reading through this thread? As is always my custom, I can provide sources for everything I say here, just ask if you really haven't seem them (and if you really haven't seen them, one must ask - why are you unaware of them?)

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The Liberty was never meant to make it to port. It was attacked to blind US intelligence to what the Israelis were doing in the 6 day war, and the attack was to be blamed on Egypt, to bring the US into the shitshow. The survivors and others know it was no accident. This is one sailor's story who was on the Little Rock after ut steamed all night ti aid the Liberty. The only mystery here is why the Liberty didn't go down.
"Eventually, the facts about the attack did come out. Though the Liberty displayed a large hull number, dozens of antennas, and a U.S. flag, Israeli recon planes falsely ID'd it as an Egyptian destroyer. They buzzed the ship so low that the Liberty crew could see the pilots' faces. The recon ordered fighter jets that strafed the ship with cannon fire and drenched it with napalm. During the air assault, nine crew members were killed and 60 were wounded.
Three Israeli torpedo boats then took up the attack and first used gunfire, then launched four torpedoes. The crippled Liberty was attempting evasive maneuvers, but one torpedo blew a 39-by-24 foot hole in the starboard side. Twenty-five men died when it hit and scores were wounded." You obviously have no idea what governments are capable of.

Even worse the US activated a squadron of Phantom fighter jets to defend the Liberty but Johnson called them back a few minutes after he learned of them being activated so they were unable to defend their own navy.

Perhaps if Hitler had apologized for accidentally bombing London, WW2 might have been avoided.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

AND Israel admitted a terrible mistake! NO QUESTION!
Israel apologized for the attack, saying that USS Liberty had been attacked in error after being mistaken for an Egyptian ship.[5]Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity.

USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

IT WAS A MISTAKE!

You're actually lying to yourself so there's nothing to respond to here, the eagerness and willful disregard for facts is so typical of Zionist supporters.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

As he says, Israel has never defined what it's own borders are, other countries do. Therefore for a state that's unwilling to define it's own borders to say "we have a right to exist" pretty much proves that this is wordplay and always has been. Israel actually believes it can seize any territory it wants whenever it wants.

Like asking does the British Empire have a right to exist or did the Roman Empire have a right to exist or the Third Reich had a right to exist, so you tell me, did those three have a right to exist?

My own position now is that no, Israel does not have a right to exist and the arguments for that position are similar to arguments that the Third Reich did not have a right to exist. It did exist but the civilized nations took that right away and we should do so again with the Zionist regime.

As we speak Israel is bombing people in Syria and starting to occupy territory there, this is all it does, occupy, occupy, occupy and bomb, bomb, bomb and at every juncture it whines "we have a right to defend ourselves" and so many people accept that lie as having some actual meaning!

 

[Stryder50]

There are some details you skipped over regarding the above. First the British as far back as 1919 met with leading Zionists to discuss options for expelling "Palestinian peasantry" from areas where Jewish migration had been targeting. This reveals that ethnic cleansing was part of the militant Zionist project decades before 1948's Nakba.

Also note that Israel has NEVER defined its own borders, never, they certainly do not confine their occupation to the partition plan.

Second Arabs leaders had objected to the British about the emerging plan to colonize Palestine with mainly European Jews. They feared that Arabs who would fall within the borders of whatever future state was setup and that those Arabs would wake up to find themselves under rule by foreign and hostile Zionist Jews, again this was expressed decades before 1948.

Why should they? Why would any sane person expect a people to welcome colonization by a terrorist group? You speak of "solution" but there wasn't a problem to solve! The problem that the "two state solution" claims to address is a problem that was itself created by the British and their support for colonization of Palestine by foreign Jews.

Yes, the people of Palestine had a right - under the league of nations - to determine their own government, it's called the right to self determination and was and is a right. But the British in cahoots with Zionist leaders had their own plan which was to create a colony in Palestine with a Zionist government and impose that upon all the people who lived in the territory that would fall within the "borders" of the new state.

The partition plan was unacceptable to the Arab leaders who had already been betrayed by the British after they helped the British defeat the Ottomans in Palestine. The British had promised to work toward an independent Palestine where all the people (Arab, Jew etc) would be able to play a part in choosing a government. However the British lied and had already secretly agreed with the French and Russians on how Palestine would develop as the mandate came to an end.

The Partition plan was illegal, it violated the people of Palestine's right to self determination by imposing a government on half the territory no Arab would or should accept a foreign colonial power like Britain, carving out terrortyory and installing a neo-fascist Jew supremacist government over non-Jews.

The rest is more or less irrelevant insofar as understanding the origin's of today's violence. Israel is a colonization of Palestine, by a Jew supremacist ideology that was hostile from the outset. Zionist gangs were compared by UK and US intelligence services as being formed "along Nazi lines" and Zionist organizations in Palestine during the years before 1948, had their own indoctrination schools for Jewish children and these were compared (again by US and UK intelligence) to "Hitler youth" camps and were just as racist and sinister.

Jews who were opposed to setting up a Jewish state (and there was a lot of these, Jews who did not want a Zionist state) were targeted in various ways by extremist Zionists, some were even killed - that is Jews were prepared to kill Jews (and this is right after the Holocaust) in their fanatical quest to establish the disgusting apartheid crap hole we see today.

I don't know why you left all of this stuff out, perhaps you can explain that to the people reading through this thread? As is always my custom, I can provide sources for everything I say here, just ask if you really haven't seem them (and if you really haven't seen them, one must ask - why are you unaware of them?)

Issues like these always have two sides with opposing views, going back and forth, so yes, provide links to your sources.
I doubt they will be objective.

You also overlook that there is a long and contested history to this small piece of land, but the roots of "Jew vs Arab" go back about 1400 years to when the Muslim/Arabs conquered Israel/Levant as part of their expansion to convert whole world to Islam. An agenda yet to be denounced or removed from Islamic dogma.

Also the Israel/Palestine issue needs to be taken in context of the Jews aren't out to convert the whole world to Judaism, just want the small piece of ancestral turf, and to be left alone (No more pogroms and holocausts); whereas the Muslims still have global conversion to Islam as a goal and agenda.

 

[Stryder50]

You support genocide. Now who’s the Nazi?

If Israel kills all the Palestinians, do you still support it? I’m guessing yes…because you are a dumb MFing Nazi.

I do not support genocide, but I do support self defense, and self determination with regard to religion.
If you were honest about this subject you'd note that Non-Muslims are seldom allowed to build new churches/temples nor to public proclaim their religion in Muslim dominated nations/neighborhoods.

I support either serious abrogation and reform/revisions to the Koran and Islamic scriptures to a more tolerant religion, failing that, then the abolition of the religion/dogma. Which is not the same thing as "kill all Muslims". Jihadists are another matter.

You are the Jew hating dumb MFing Nazi!

 

[healthmyths]

You're actually lying to yourself so there's nothing to respond to here, the eagerness and willful disregard for facts is so typical of Zionist supporters.

Obviously you support 3 billionaires who live in secure Qatar while 45,000 of their followers that have provided them with the billions they are living on, are unprotected while Israel's expenditures for Iron Dome SAVES lives from the 20,000 wasted rockets sent by the billionaires' followers. Pretty obvious you respect the 3 billionaires more than the 45,000 people killed because the billionaires didn't want to protect their followers.
How am I'm lying by pointing out you support the billionaires rather than the people of Palestine?

 

[healthmyths]

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Israel strikes flour distribution line, kills 50 across Gaza

Palestinian death toll in besieged Gaza Strip rises to 44,758 amid relentless Israeli attacks, health authorities say.

aje.io

Meanwhile Israel obviously cares more about their people than the 3 billionaires care about their Palestine followers or why else don't they help protect the 45,000 people that have been killed because they lived over Hamas underground hospitals, schools and homes using the innocent people as shields. Sad that dummies can't distinguish this idiocy on the part of the Hamas and their 3 billionaire leaders that live in Qatar safely!

 

[gipper]

I do not support genocide, but I do support self defense, and self determination with regard to religion.
If you were honest about this subject you'd note that Non-Muslims are seldom allowed to build new churches/temples nor to public proclaim their religion in Muslim dominated nations/neighborhoods.

I support either serious abrogation and reform/revisions to the Koran and Islamic scriptures to a more tolerant religion, failing that, then the abolition of the religion/dogma. Which is not the same thing as "kill all Muslims". Jihadists are another matter.

You are the Jew hating dumb MFing Nazi!

You unknowingly support genocide. Israel is not defending itself. It’s mass murdering defenseless people.

Complaining about Muslims oppressing others while your nation of Israel is mass murdering Muslims is hilarious. It’s evident you hate Muslims, which is typical of someone brainwashed by the western establishment.

You know nothing about Islam. Islam like Christianity, has a history of violence and racism. You of course, ignore the acts of one side while condemning the other side.

You have much common with Nazis.

 

[healthmyths]

You unknowingly support genocide. Israel is not defending itself. It’s mass murdering defenseless people.

Complaining about Muslims oppressing others while your nation of Israel is mass murdering Muslims is hilarious. It’s evident you hate Muslims, which is typical of someone brainwashed by the western establishment.

You know nothing about Islam. Islam like Christianity, has a history of violence and racism. You of course, ignore the acts of one side while condemning the other side.

You have much common with Nazis.

WHO bombed who on 10/7/2023?????? Who killed 1,200 people and seized more than 200 hostages FIRST???
YOU are totally screwed UP! YOU support the 3 billionaires who are safe in Qatar ...why? Why didn't they build an
"iron dome" first then attack Israel? $$$! And you still haven't answered the question!

AGAIN I've put this down but YOU totally ignored it!
In 1993, as part of the Oslo Accords, the Palestine Liberation Organization and Israel agreed to an outline for Palestinians to self-govern in the Palestinian territories.
In 1994, Israel withdrew from Gaza City and Jericho, giving civilian and city functions to the Palestinian Authority.

Israeli disengagement from the Gaza Strip - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Israel's Disengagement from Gaza and North Samaria (2005)
Israel's plan of unilateral disengagement from the Gaza Strip and North Samaria put forward by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was carried out on 15 August 2005.
The purpose of the plan was to improve Israel's security and international status in the absence of peace negotiations with the Palestinians.
With the implementation of the plan, IDF installations and forces were removed and over 9,000 Israeli citizens living in 25 settlements were evicted.
By 22 September 2005, Israel's withdrawal from the entire Gaza Strip to the 1967 Green Line, and the eviction of the four settlements in Samaria, was completed.
In June 2007 Hamas took over the Gaza Strip from the Palestinian Authority.
Many thousands of rockets and mortar shells have been fired from the Gaza Strip onto southern Israeli towns and villages, terrorizing and destabilizing the lives of hundreds of thousands of Israeli citizens.

https://embassies.gov.il/MFA/ABOUTISRAEL/MAPS/Pages/Israels%20Disengagement%20Plan-%202005.aspx#:~:text=By%2022%20September%202005%2C%20Israel's,settlements%20in%20Samaria%2C%20was%20completed.

So I ask you to simple answer this question!!!
Which group considers the safety of their followers:

• A group lead by 3 billionaires living in safety in Qatar or
• A group that protects it's followers against the attack almost 20,000 rockets have hit southern Israel.

Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I am 100% confident YOU WON"T answer the question because there is ONLY one right answer!
Defending 3 billionaires who COULD have spent less than a $1 billion and built an iron dome but they put money first!
To hell with 45,000 dead followers! After all these 45,000 dead followers were obviously as dumb to follow these
3 billionaires as you are!!!

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Obviously you support 3 billionaires who live in secure Qatar while 45,000 of their followers that have provided them with the billions they are living on, are unprotected while Israel's expenditures for Iron Dome SAVES lives from the 20,000 wasted rockets sent by the billionaires' followers. Pretty obvious you respect the 3 billionaires more than the 45,000 people killed because the billionaires didn't want to protect their followers.
How am I'm lying by pointing out you support the billionaires rather than the people of Palestine?

 

[gipper]

WHO bombed who on 10/7/2023?????? Who killed 1,200 people and seized more than 200 hostages FIRST???
YOU are totally screwed UP! YOU support the 3 billionaires who are safe in Qatar ...why? Why didn't they build an
"iron dome" first then attack Israel? $$$! And you still haven't answered the question!

AGAIN I've put this down but YOU totally ignored it!
In 1993, as part of the Oslo Accords, the Palestine Liberation Organization and Israel agreed to an outline for Palestinians to self-govern in the Palestinian territories.
In 1994, Israel withdrew from Gaza City and Jericho, giving civilian and city functions to the Palestinian Authority.

Israeli disengagement from the Gaza Strip - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Israel's Disengagement from Gaza and North Samaria (2005)
Israel's plan of unilateral disengagement from the Gaza Strip and North Samaria put forward by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was carried out on 15 August 2005.
The purpose of the plan was to improve Israel's security and international status in the absence of peace negotiations with the Palestinians.
With the implementation of the plan, IDF installations and forces were removed and over 9,000 Israeli citizens living in 25 settlements were evicted.
By 22 September 2005, Israel's withdrawal from the entire Gaza Strip to the 1967 Green Line, and the eviction of the four settlements in Samaria, was completed.
In June 2007 Hamas took over the Gaza Strip from the Palestinian Authority.
Many thousands of rockets and mortar shells have been fired from the Gaza Strip onto southern Israeli towns and villages, terrorizing and destabilizing the lives of hundreds of thousands of Israeli citizens.

https://embassies.gov.il/MFA/ABOUTISRAEL/MAPS/Pages/Israels%20Disengagement%20Plan-%202005.aspx#:~:text=By%2022%20September%202005%2C%20Israel's,settlements%20in%20Samaria%2C%20was%20completed.

So I ask you to simple answer this question!!!
Which group considers the safety of their followers:

• A group lead by 3 billionaires living in safety in Qatar or
• A group that protects it's followers against the attack almost 20,000 rockets have hit southern Israel.

Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I am 100% confident YOU WON"T answer the question because there is ONLY one right answer!
Defending 3 billionaires who COULD have spent less than a $1 billion and built an iron dome but they put money first!
To hell with 45,000 dead followers! After all these 45,000 dead followers were obviously as dumb to follow these
3 billionaires as you are!!!

So Israel mass murdering tens of thousands of innocent women and children, maiming tens of thousands more, and displacing over 2 million people is justified by you because of 10/7.

You are a dumb MFer.