The truth about Truman’s bombing Japan

[Unkotare]

Some people have this ridiculous cartoon notion that no Japanese soldier ever surrendered, or that an entire nation doesn't care about their own lives at all. That is not and never has been true. Anyone who has actually studied Japanese history knows that soldiers and their leaders surrendered in wars at times just like any other peoples. "Western" cultures honor those who fight to the end as well.

https://www.army.mil/article/92856/the_story_of_the_nuts_reply

 

[Mac-7]

LOL don't bother with reality to this fool he doesn't deal in it, He doesn't even realize that after the emperor surrendered the Army staged a coup to stop it, nor does he accept the reality that the army never agreed to surrender.

The sad thing is he’s a public school teacher

 

[Unkotare]

You really dont know ANYTHING about this subject
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I really do.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Some people have this ridiculous cartoon notion that no Japanese soldier ever surrendered, or that an entire nation doesn't care about their own lives at all. That is not and never has been true. Anyone who has actually studied Japanese history knows that soldiers and their leaders surrendered in wars at times just like any other peoples. "Western" cultures honor those who fight to the end as well.

https://www.army.mil/article/92856/the_story_of_the_nuts_reply

You are such a moron and liar.

 

[Mac-7]

Some people have this ridiculous cartoon notion that no Japanese soldier ever surrendered, or that an entire nation doesn't care about their own lives at all. That is not and never has been true. Anyone who has actually studied Japanese history knows that soldiers and their leaders surrendered in wars at times just like any other peoples. "Western" cultures honor those who fight to the end as well.

https://www.army.mil/article/92856/the_story_of_the_nuts_reply

Saipan is a great example of you spreading misinformation

Very frw japanese soldiers or civilians surrendered

 

[Unkotare]

Saipan is a great example of you spreading misinformation

Very frw japanese soldiers or civilians surrendered

Saipan is not Honshu.

 

[DudleySmith]

LOL so FDR knew of the attack and even knew the date of said attack? But no one else knew right?

He's an idiot, pay no mind.

More on the facts around the invasion of Japan and how the bombs forced surrender; the Japanese Military wasn't going to surrender, for young people who might think Gipper and Unkotare should be taken seriously.

The Proposed Invasion of Japan

On 8 May 1945, the Allies celebrated VE Day, marking the end of the war in Europe. But the war in the east still raged on and Japanese surrender seemed a long way off. What did the proposed invasion of Japan look like?

www.iwm.org.uk

 

[DudleySmith]

Saipan is a great example of you spreading misinformation

Very frw japanese soldiers or civilians surrendered

Exactly, and there was zero reason to think the mainland forces would not be even worse. They had over 6 million ready to meet the invasion waves. There were no 'civilians' in Japan.

 

[Unkotare]

Exactly, and there was zero reason to think the mainland forces would not be even worse. ....

Yes there was.

 

[Unkotare]

....... There were no 'civilians' in Japan.

Does saying such a ridiculous thing make you feel better about trying to rationalize the targeting and incineration of hundreds of thousands of civilians?

 

[Unkotare]

Article clipped from Chicago Tribune

Clipping found in Chicago Tribune published in Chicago, Illinois on 8/14/1965.

www.newspapers.com

 

[DudleySmith]

Does saying such a ridiculous thing make you feel better about trying to rationalize the targeting and incineration of hundreds of thousands of civilians?

You don't give a shit about human life, you're just a nasty little troll.

 

[Unkotare]

You don't give a shit about human life,.....

You're the one trying to rationalize the deliberate targeting and incineration of hundreds of thousands of civilians.

 

[elektra]

Saipan is a great example of you spreading misinformation

Very frw japanese soldiers or civilians surrendered

You are exactly right. Hari Kari, suicide before surrender.

That is one reason the Japanese treated prisoners like dirt. The japanese had no respect for those who are captured or surrender.

 

[AZrailwhale]

You're making no sense.

If it seems to you that I'm making no sense, it's because you have the memory of a goldfish. As I have stated several times, the Japanese government's OFFICIAL plan was to kill so many Japanese and Allied personnel that the American public would be sickened by the carnage and grant Japan a favorable end to the war allowing Japan to keep its ill-gotten gains. That is how delusional the Japanese government was in 1945. They were literally preparing to fight in their own homes against an enemy that was superior in material, numbers and technology and they STILL thought they could dictate terms to the victors.
The American public was so inured to Japanese atrocities, that most Americans wouldn't have thought twice about exterminating the Japanese race. The US government didn't have to make up atrocity stories to fan the hatred of the Japanese, the Japanese were happy, even eager, to furnish a continual stream of atrocities to achieve that goal.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Don't be stupid.

I'm not, look at Japanese suicide statistics, per capita Japan is in 49th place out of 183 countries.
Per Wikki: "In Japan, suicide (自殺, jisatsu) is considered a major social issue.[2][3] In 2017, the country had the seventh highest suicide rate in the OECD, at 14.9 per 100,000 persons,[4] and in 2019 the country had the second highest suicide rate among the G7 developed nations."

 

[Mac-7]

Saipan is not Honshu.

Yes it was

It was japan as much as Mt Fuji

Out of the entire Japanese garrison of 30,000 troops, only 921 prisoners were captured; the rest died. The Japanese commanders and some 5,000 others committed suicide rather than surrender.

 

[BackAgain]

Lol. You’ve been informed, but continue to play dumb.

Here is a good book for you, by a member who regularly posts here. You’ve likely been informed of this book by him in other threads on this topic but in typical fashion, refused to learn.

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The Real Infamy of Pearl Harbor: Separating Fact from Fiction about the "Unprovoked and Dastardly Attack" Kindle Edition​

by Michael Griffith (Author) Format: Kindle Edition

He stated the following in a post…

Isn't it curious that FDR's favorite Navy ship, the USS Indianapolis, was ordered to leave Pearl Harbor less than 48 hours before the attack, and that the ship left in such a rush that it left without most of its crew? Neither of the two explanations for the ship's strange, rushed departure make any sense. One story says the ship was sent to take supplies to Johnston Island. The other story says the ship was sent to do bombardment training. Well, why would a heavy cruiser be suddenly dispatched to take supplies when there were plenty of transport ships to do so? And why would a routine supply mission require such a rushed, frenzied departure that would leave most of the crew behind? The bombardment training story is equally nonsensical. You don't do bombardment training at the last minute, and you certainly don't do it with most of your crew left behind

That good old gimp is willingly gullible is indisputable.

 

[BackAgain]

The thread headline is a lie. It says it speaks of “truth” when it clearly does not.

 

[Mac-7]

The sad thing is that Unkotare is a public school teacher

Who knows how many innocent children he will infect with his crazy ideas?