Zone1 The Ten Commandments don't apply to us.

[White 6]

^^^^^TRANSLATION: Democrats are not getting their way.

He has less than 3 years left, and you cannot count on the next president being lawless and without moral principles.

 

[toobfreak]

He has less than 3 years left,

More than 63% of his term still left to go and with most of the obstacles put up to block him out of his way now and gaining speed and momentum. I'm counting on these last three years making the first look like a kid's party.

and you cannot count on the next president being lawless and without moral principles.

Why not? The last one surely was!

 

[Leo123]

They apply. Trump and his supporters, just do not know it. But, for that matter, there actually are a lot of people that act like they do not know it, MAGA is not alone in this fallacy. Support for the Ten Commandments as laws for living is obviously limiting, and their new god routinely ignores, and seems to be successfully doing as he please, so they do as they please, also and support him doing as he please.

Everyone ignores the Ten Commandments. Even you. You just broke the 9th.

 

[norwegen]

Everyone ignores the Ten Commandments. Even you. You just broke the 9th.

Everyone ignores them and no one pays any consequences. They're unenforceable.

 

[rosends]

Everyone ignores them and no one pays any consequences. They're unenforceable.

gee. I don't ignore them.

 

[ding]

While we are free to make any choice we desire we are not free to escape the consequences; good and bad. Everything is choice. Choose wisely.

 

[BreezeWood]

gee. I don't ignore them.

how can you claim an allegiance for what does not exist ... the liar and murder moses destroyed their heavenly claimed tablets, commandments before they were ever witnessed by anyone.

used by all three desert religions to persecute and victimize the innocent in most cases the true followers of jesus who taught liberation theology, self determination - substituted in the 4th century w/ the phony commandments of moses.

there are no commandments or laws from the heavens only the goal to sin no more in perpetuity through triumph to acquire admission to the everlasting for a free spirit.

 

[norwegen]

gee. I don't ignore them.

Try it, and see how severe the consequences are.

 

[rosends]

Try it, and see how severe the consequences are.

try ignoring them? Why would I? They apply to me and my life.

 

[norwegen]

try ignoring them? Why would I? They apply to me and my life.

If you were to ignore them, consequences would come from your state or country. Of course, if you were to murder or steal, you would be violating the laws of the state; you would suffer consequences at the hands of the state, not of the Sadducees or the Sanhedrin.

No consequences would come from the people "of the book." None would come from the temple priesthood. None. No consequences for violating the Ten Commandments. Those laws are unenforceable.

 

[rosends]

If you were to ignore them, consequences would come from your state or country.

maybe for some of them, but not others

Of course, if you were to murder or steal, you would be violating the laws of the state; you would suffer consequences at the hands of the state, not of the Sadducees or the Sanhedrin.

for murder? that's because Jewish courts no longer prosecute criminal cases. Financial ones, there are religious courts. But not Sadducees -- the pharisees.

No consequences would come from the people "of the book." None would come from the temple priesthood. None. No consequences for violating the Ten Commandments. Those laws are unenforceable.

Absolute consequences. Just not ones that you value or think as valid.

 

[norwegen]

maybe for some of them, but not others

for murder? that's because Jewish courts no longer prosecute criminal cases. Financial ones, there are religious courts. But not Sadducees -- the pharisees.

Absolute consequences. Just not ones that you value or think as valid.

Wut? Pharisees?

That political party disbanded centuries ago. Rabbinic Judaism, maybe? Do the rabbis stone women for adultery? Does the Knesset condone the draconian, cruel, and unusual punishment of the Jewish Israelites?

 

[rosends]

Wut? Pharisees?

yup, or in Hebrew, Prushim.

That political party disbanded centuries ago. Rabbinic Judaism, maybe?

well, yeah...that's what Prushim are.

Do the rabbis stone women for adultery?

nope. We don't have capital punishment today in jewish law.

Does the Knesset condone the draconian, cruel, and unusual punishment of the Jewish Israelites?

the Knesset is not a religious body so why would you ask about it?

 

[norwegen]

yup, or in Hebrew, Prushim.

well, yeah...that's what Prushim are.

nope. We don't have capital punishment today in jewish law.

the Knesset is not a religious body so why would you ask about it?

You're getting into the weeds, and this thread isn't about you.

One can apply the Ten Commandments to his life all he wants. Or he can ignore them. Either way, the result is the same.

 

[rosends]

You're getting into the weeds, and this thread isn't about you.

whom is it about and how should I know it isn't about me. A general statement was made and it fails in the specific.

One can apply the Ten Commandments to his life all he wants. Or he can ignore them. Either way, the result is the same.

you keep on thinking that. Have fun.

 

[norwegen]

whom is it about and how should I know it isn't about me. A general statement was made and it fails in the specific.

you keep on thinking that. Have fun.

Did you not read the OP? He's a Christian, I believe.

I will have fun. You have fun, too. But don't murder anyone; the High Priest will get ya.

 

[rosends]

Did you not read the OP? He's a Christian, I believe.

who a person is doesn't change that the statement. If he doesn't qualify "us" I have to assume it is general and includes everyone.

I will have fun. You have fun, too. But don't murder anyone; the High Priest will get ya.

That's not the HP's job.

 

[The Irish Ram]

As sound advice, the 10 Commandments are worthy. As a religion, we are not under Mosaic Law. In fact if you believe you are under 10 Mosaic laws, then you are required to keep all 600+ of the rest of the Law. If you believe they are a requirement that you are obligated to follow, and you break one, you have broken all 600 Jewish Laws. They were not designed for the Gentiles.

We are warned not to add to or take away from God's word. To make the 10 commandments universal, that is exactly what we have done. Had we not done that, we would know exactly who they were meant for.
The actual commandment #1:

	“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.

^
It does not apply as a law to anyone who was not in bondage in Egypt. And > all of the Law involves works:

Galatians 3:10 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.

We are under a better covenant of grace through faith in Christ.

Having said that, if our children were taught, not to kill, we wouldn't have such a violent generation out in the streets shooting each other. They would respect their parents enough not to disobey. They wouldn't walk inside of stores and help themselves.

The 10 commandments are good words to live by, now laws we are obligated to keep...

 

[norwegen]

That's not the HP's job.

You mean, it wasn't the high priest's job.

 

[Leo123]

Everyone ignores them and no one pays any consequences. They're unenforceable.

The consequences are not always obvious but, will be felt.