The reason why fallen angels can't change ...

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Let's see what generates physical life, and what prevents fallen angels, or anything fallen, from changing. If we successfully put away our indoctrinations to judge, we can discover, that both the Genesis' Eve -> Apple -> Cain trilogy and the Judas Iscariot - Jesus Christ relationship report about the same situation of Catch-22. This is also supported by Romans 8:20 where the decay of the universe is analyzed, as well as by pretty much all interviews that the Church has ever done with demons.

So here is the derivative analysis step-by-step.

1. The evil comes to Eve without invitation, and no, Eve doesn't invite the devil by some invention like that she would want to be a God or something, she doesn't. In modern terminology, this 1st movement represents Information Management. Examples are socialist state schooling, Quran reading, media censorship, in other words everything that restricts the information from which you can make decisions and form your will.

2. Eve eats the apple for knowledge. The apple represents the breaking point of every creation, and the knowledge is that you can know about pain. Even Christ had a breaking point, because on the Cross, He cried first before He said He lays down to His Father. This 2nd movement is established by the above 1st, and in modern terms the examples are water boarding, predatory lending/legislation, wife beating, in other words everything that controls your newly hijacked will to replace whatever you may have though before.

3. Conception results to lead to the birth of Cain. When an outside force such as God requests something, this 3rd movement invokes the control established by the above 2nd, and produces the usual unexpected contrary results, contrary to the request, accomplishing that anything you set out to do ends up in the opposite of its original intent. This completes the catch-22, and describes that physical life itself is a result of this catch-22. This is further reported by God Himself when He says to people to multiply, then gives Cain a sort of evil version of Christ's Great Commission to wander around the world and rape as many women as he can to establish the bloodline of evil. In the case of Cain, the catch-22 manifested as murder, in the case of Judas Iscariot, it was fraud, in the case of Romans 8:20 it is the failure that is reported in Revelations as heaven and earth passing away. Modern day examples are all sorts of addictions and all crimes that the offender can't be rehabilitated from. Part of the catch-22 is that it operates not only as a past cause causing future effects, but in both ways in a circle, that it operates also as a future cause causing past effects. This is also described by the Apostle Paul as the Great Dilusion that God sends onto the captured.

So, what is the overall result of this basic law of existence? It seems to be that many things as well as people are held in hell even if they don't belong there and are not meant to be there. And what is the solution? The solution seems to be to compensate for the catch-22, using the external force that is represented by the Great Commission of Christ and His associated weapons. To be more exact, we need to obey the Gospels and pick up our crosses, which are parts of the great weapons, and follow Christ as He has been prompting. And this follower work then has to be done accurately, that is the armies of followers have to follow all through that Saturday too after the Crucifixion all the way to hell, and bring out all and all pieces of all that don't belong there. If neglected or done inaccurately, then everything there that doesn't belong there becomes a freeway from hell into the center of our souls and minds. We can see that this is the case, because most of the time in the Gospels, Christ is bogged down with casting out demons, which shouldn't be outside hell to begin with. Then using the weapons of the Pentecost, all of the things and all their pieces as well as all retrieved people can be filled with the Holy Spirit, to shut down this revolving door of the catch-22.

If we ever start the Great Commission work in this accurate fashion, then the effectiveness of our prayers to God will also increase from the current 2 % to the historic 50++ %.

Please discuss.
 
You must be a cousin of pc chick. Prove fallen angels. And maybe folks of rational mind might just entertain your comments. In the mean time, listen to this.
 
Let's see what generates physical life, and what prevents fallen angels, or anything fallen, from changing. If we successfully put away our indoctrinations to judge, we can discover, that both the Genesis' Eve -> Apple -> Cain trilogy and the Judas Iscariot - Jesus Christ relationship report about the same situation of Catch-22. This is also supported by Romans 8:20 where the decay of the universe is analyzed, as well as by pretty much all interviews that the Church has ever done with demons.

So here is the derivative analysis step-by-step.

1. The evil comes to Eve without invitation, and no, Eve doesn't invite the devil by some invention like that she would want to be a God or something, she doesn't. In modern terminology, this 1st movement represents Information Management. Examples are socialist state schooling, Quran reading, media censorship, in other words everything that restricts the information from which you can make decisions and form your will.

2. Eve eats the apple for knowledge. The apple represents the breaking point of every creation, and the knowledge is that you can know about pain. Even Christ had a breaking point, because on the Cross, He cried first before He said He lays down to His Father. This 2nd movement is established by the above 1st, and in modern terms the examples are water boarding, predatory lending/legislation, wife beating, in other words everything that controls your newly hijacked will to replace whatever you may have though before.

3. Conception results to lead to the birth of Cain. When an outside force such as God requests something, this 3rd movement invokes the control established by the above 2nd, and produces the usual unexpected contrary results, contrary to the request, accomplishing that anything you set out to do ends up in the opposite of its original intent. This completes the catch-22, and describes that physical life itself is a result of this catch-22. This is further reported by God Himself when He says to people to multiply, then gives Cain a sort of evil version of Christ's Great Commission to wander around the world and rape as many women as he can to establish the bloodline of evil. In the case of Cain, the catch-22 manifested as murder, in the case of Judas Iscariot, it was fraud, in the case of Romans 8:20 it is the failure that is reported in Revelations as heaven and earth passing away. Modern day examples are all sorts of addictions and all crimes that the offender can't be rehabilitated from. Part of the catch-22 is that it operates not only as a past cause causing future effects, but in both ways in a circle, that it operates also as a future cause causing past effects. This is also described by the Apostle Paul as the Great Dilusion that God sends onto the captured.

So, what is the overall result of this basic law of existence? It seems to be that many things as well as people are held in hell even if they don't belong there and are not meant to be there. And what is the solution? The solution seems to be to compensate for the catch-22, using the external force that is represented by the Great Commission of Christ and His associated weapons. To be more exact, we need to obey the Gospels and pick up our crosses, which are parts of the great weapons, and follow Christ as He has been prompting. And this follower work then has to be done accurately, that is the armies of followers have to follow all through that Saturday too after the Crucifixion all the way to hell, and bring out all and all pieces of all that don't belong there. If neglected or done inaccurately, then everything there that doesn't belong there becomes a freeway from hell into the center of our souls and minds. We can see that this is the case, because most of the time in the Gospels, Christ is bogged down with casting out demons, which shouldn't be outside hell to begin with. Then using the weapons of the Pentecost, all of the things and all their pieces as well as all retrieved people can be filled with the Holy Spirit, to shut down this revolving door of the catch-22.

If we ever start the Great Commission work in this accurate fashion, then the effectiveness of our prayers to God will also increase from the current 2 % to the historic 50++ %.

Please discuss.
ROTFLMAO!

Do tell..how, exactly, do you determine a percentage of prayer effectiveness? Did you poll? Why 2% and not 3? Too funny!

Well written though...would make some great fantasy--convoluted..conspiratorial...sexy.

Sorry..i know you probably believe in this implicitly. I don't mean to mock...well...maybe a little.

In the great American religious and philosophical outpouring of the first part of the 1800's there came a great coming together of philosophy... Transcendentalism.
It was the first uniquely American philosophical movement...If you've not checked it out...worth the reading.Simplicity = Godliness. Pare away the dross of theology for the man-made crap that it is....and parse the divine heart that exists within us all.

Christ within.
 
You must be a cousin of pc chick. Prove fallen angels. And maybe folks of rational mind might just entertain your comments. In the mean time, listen to this.


The OP aside, do you believe in God?

The OP aside? That's why I replied in this forum with a Chrissie Hynde song.


You didn't answer the question.

That is exactly right. Find someone else to hang that noose around.
 
You must be a cousin of pc chick. Prove fallen angels. And maybe folks of rational mind might just entertain your comments. In the mean time, listen to this.


The OP aside, do you believe in God?

The OP aside? That's why I replied in this forum with a Chrissie Hynde song.


You didn't answer the question.

That is exactly right. Find someone else to hang that noose around.


You're a coward, that's cool.
 
You must be a cousin of pc chick. Prove fallen angels. And maybe folks of rational mind might just entertain your comments. In the mean time, listen to this.


The OP aside, do you believe in God?

The OP aside? That's why I replied in this forum with a Chrissie Hynde song.


You didn't answer the question.

That is exactly right. Find someone else to hang that noose around.


You're a coward, that's cool.
 
Classic. You don't get to define the response. Find someone else to engage with your childish antics with. And if you think being a coward is cool, bury that in your back yard. I ain't interested in it.
 
Classic. You don't get to define the response. Find someone else to engage with your childish antics with. And if you think being a coward is cool, bury that in your back yard. I ain't interested in it.

You're a Coward punk kid. Hell awaits you. It's cool, you chose it.
 
No, that's not the way it works. You don't get to tell me about your hell that you want to damn me to.

You chose. And grow up, by the way. You are childish.
 
No, that's not the way it works. You don't get to tell me about your hell that you want to damn me to.

You chose. And grow up, by the way. You are childish.

It's not my hell kid, it's God's. You will burn for eternity. By the way? I'm right.
 
No, that's not the way it works. You don't get to tell me about your hell that you want to damn me to.

You chose. And grow up, by the way. You are childish.

It's not my hell kid, it's God's. You will burn for eternity. By the way? I'm right.
It's really simple. You don't speak for any god. Nobody ever has. The Hell you so desperately want to send me to is yours. You own it. Everything that you have posted here so far exemplifies that.
 
No, that's not the way it works. You don't get to tell me about your hell that you want to damn me to.

You chose. And grow up, by the way. You are childish.

It's not my hell kid, it's God's. You will burn for eternity. By the way? I'm right.
It's really simple. You don't speak for any god. Nobody ever has. The Hell you so desperately want to send me to is yours. You own it. Everything that you have posted here so far exemplifies that.

Son I don't want to send you anywhere. You're going because you have rejected God. Everything I have posted is Scriptural kid.
 
Let's see what generates physical life, and what prevents fallen angels, or anything fallen, from changing. If we successfully put away our indoctrinations to judge, we can discover, that both the Genesis' Eve -> Apple -> Cain trilogy and the Judas Iscariot - Jesus Christ relationship report about the same situation of Catch-22. This is also supported by Romans 8:20 where the decay of the universe is analyzed, as well as by pretty much all interviews that the Church has ever done with demons.

So here is the derivative analysis step-by-step.

1. The evil comes to Eve without invitation, and no, Eve doesn't invite the devil by some invention like that she would want to be a God or something, she doesn't. In modern terminology, this 1st movement represents Information Management. Examples are socialist state schooling, Quran reading, media censorship, in other words everything that restricts the information from which you can make decisions and form your will.

2. Eve eats the apple for knowledge. The apple represents the breaking point of every creation, and the knowledge is that you can know about pain. Even Christ had a breaking point, because on the Cross, He cried first before He said He lays down to His Father. This 2nd movement is established by the above 1st, and in modern terms the examples are water boarding, predatory lending/legislation, wife beating, in other words everything that controls your newly hijacked will to replace whatever you may have though before.

3. Conception results to lead to the birth of Cain. When an outside force such as God requests something, this 3rd movement invokes the control established by the above 2nd, and produces the usual unexpected contrary results, contrary to the request, accomplishing that anything you set out to do ends up in the opposite of its original intent. This completes the catch-22, and describes that physical life itself is a result of this catch-22. This is further reported by God Himself when He says to people to multiply, then gives Cain a sort of evil version of Christ's Great Commission to wander around the world and rape as many women as he can to establish the bloodline of evil. In the case of Cain, the catch-22 manifested as murder, in the case of Judas Iscariot, it was fraud, in the case of Romans 8:20 it is the failure that is reported in Revelations as heaven and earth passing away. Modern day examples are all sorts of addictions and all crimes that the offender can't be rehabilitated from. Part of the catch-22 is that it operates not only as a past cause causing future effects, but in both ways in a circle, that it operates also as a future cause causing past effects. This is also described by the Apostle Paul as the Great Dilusion that God sends onto the captured.

So, what is the overall result of this basic law of existence? It seems to be that many things as well as people are held in hell even if they don't belong there and are not meant to be there. And what is the solution? The solution seems to be to compensate for the catch-22, using the external force that is represented by the Great Commission of Christ and His associated weapons. To be more exact, we need to obey the Gospels and pick up our crosses, which are parts of the great weapons, and follow Christ as He has been prompting. And this follower work then has to be done accurately, that is the armies of followers have to follow all through that Saturday too after the Crucifixion all the way to hell, and bring out all and all pieces of all that don't belong there. If neglected or done inaccurately, then everything there that doesn't belong there becomes a freeway from hell into the center of our souls and minds. We can see that this is the case, because most of the time in the Gospels, Christ is bogged down with casting out demons, which shouldn't be outside hell to begin with. Then using the weapons of the Pentecost, all of the things and all their pieces as well as all retrieved people can be filled with the Holy Spirit, to shut down this revolving door of the catch-22.

If we ever start the Great Commission work in this accurate fashion, then the effectiveness of our prayers to God will also increase from the current 2 % to the historic 50++ %.

Please discuss.
ROTFLMAO!

Do tell..how, exactly, do you determine a percentage of prayer effectiveness? Did you poll? Why 2% and not 3? Too funny!

Well written though...would make some great fantasy--convoluted..conspiratorial...sexy.

Sorry..i know you probably believe in this implicitly. I don't mean to mock...well...maybe a little.

In the great American religious and philosophical outpouring of the first part of the 1800's there came a great coming together of philosophy... Transcendentalism.
It was the first uniquely American philosophical movement...If you've not checked it out...worth the reading.Simplicity = Godliness. Pare away the dross of theology for the man-made crap that it is....and parse the divine heart that exists within us all.

Christ within.

The 2 % comes from the usual western national statistics of current Christian identification. The 50 % comes from the historical times when everyone was baptized and assuming that half of them ignore it at a chance of 50-50.
 
By the way, we need to also consecrate all pieces to the Blessed Virgin Mary to secure the Holy Spirit better. Interesting that people don't see this.
 
The evil comes to Eve without invitation

It's rather a wrong premise.

Eden, planet earth, the future Heaven they all have one thing in common, which is the less intelligent humans are with the much more capable and intelligent angels. It's all about how such a setup will work out. Angels are created to be the servants of God, if by their freewill given they choose to reject God then they are done. Humans, unlike angels, are born outside God's dwelling realm. Earth is a place Satan's influence dominates. Not even a single human can fully abide by God's Law which is applicable to the angels. With the judgment of Law 2/3 angels will pass the Final Judgment to enter the future Heaven, however with the same set of Law applied 0 humans can pass the Law to enter Heaven as a result of being born outside God's realm but inside Satan's influence. God thus gives humans a second chance (instead of destroying them at Noah's time with a flood). This second chance however doesn't come without a dear price which is Jesus Christ's crucifixion as a justification.

In Eden, humans are influenced by the more crafty angels (fallen angels in the end). On earth, humans are influenced by the same. In Heaven then problem solved even it is in the same situation that the more intelligent angels can be in contact with humans on a daily basis.
 
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