The Real 'Far Right'

[NYcarbineer]

Abortion is not a political issue? Abortion is not a left/right issue?

When an issue transcends political lines, it ceases to become a left/right issue, you shitstain...

Just because you are pro-abortion doesn't mean all liberals are... Politics has no business being involved...

You're an idiot no matter what forum you post on... Congrats on that...

Well, anti-abortion terrorists are either conservatives, or doing it in the name of Christianity. Take your pick.

Is it rightwing terrorism, Christian terrorism, or a little of both?

 

[MaggieMae]

I said that fascism was an offshoot of communism and belongs in that family of political thinking because it has a lot more to deal with socialism than conservatism unless you are saying that conservatism is a socialist idealogy?

I'm wondering what wing of fascism do you practice. Do you practice the right wing or left wing version of it?

I practice liberal democracy, as a good conservative should. I suspect you practice right wing fascism that links portions of my Party's leadership with Big Business. Am I right?

LOL...NO!

A liberal democracy was one thing most progressives and socialist hated and it was one that allowed the freedom of anyone to trade and prosper as they wanted. It allowed for the individual to do as they want and believe as they want. This is not something that modern liberals practice because they enact laws that restrain people from making decision over their own lives such as anti-smoking campaigns or regulate business for the sole purpose of making them do what the government wants them to do which is corpratism.

Most leftist today either practice fascism or communism and that is evident by how they view the political scale in this country as either left (communism) or right (fascism) which is saying that the only political position you can have it so to have some kind of socialist way of thinking.

This is why you said that NAZIism was a war between left-wing fascism and right wing fascism. Its your viewpoint in life that the only political position we can have is some kind of totalitrarianism. I prefer to say that communism is left and fascism is just a tad right of that but both are way left of what 70% of Americans think should exist.

When there is a threat to the great masses of citizens, or events occur that affect every American, or modern technology advances that every American will need to sustain our lives, centralized government steps in. It doesn't matter if it's national defense or a health epidemic or the advent of electricity or the interstate highway system or even out of control addictions that have an impact on people other than the ones addicted. If you think that hasn't always been happening, and that it won't continue to be the case, then you're delusional. It is hardly "communism" or "fascism."

 

[MaggieMae]

I never said, implied, or suggested that, "Its your viewpoint in life that the only political position we can have is some kind of totalitrarianism." I believe in and practice liberal democracy. You, on the other hand, appear to be a libertarian, which really is nothing more than "get off my land". OK, I get it.

I know you never said, implied, or suggested that but I pointed out that anyone who thinks that the complete political spectrum composes either fascism or communism must somehow think that the governing structure of any society must compose all or some element of these two kinds of thinking.

Since your entire thinking is caged between these two endzones it is no possible for you to think outside of that field.

Stop trying to say you are a liberal when you are not because a liberal is someone who believe in freedom of the individual which allows that person to do just about anything such as be super-rich or smoke and these are things that the people who claim to be liberal today oppose. Why is that?

And yet I've seen comments that accuse only Democrats of the filthy habit of smoking. Go figure. Seems to me THAT'S the "liberty" that you feel you are being denied, which of course you aren't, you're just paying more. You're still "free" to have a little tobacco patch in your back yard, grow your own and roll 'em.

 

[MaggieMae]

I know you never said, implied, or suggested that but I pointed out that anyone who thinks that the complete political spectrum composes either fascism or communism must somehow think that the governing structure of any society must compose all or some element of these two kinds of thinking.

Since your entire thinking is caged between these two endzones it is no possible for you to think outside of that field.

Stop trying to say you are a liberal when you are not because a liberal is someone who believe in freedom of the individual which allows that person to do just about anything such as be super-rich or smoke and these are things that the people who claim to be liberal today oppose. Why is that?

OK, you are a libertarian wierdo who cannot think outside his own box. Got that.

We are normal. Its the rest of the world that is weird.

Now that I think about it. I'm pretty liberal because I believe that anyone can do anything that they want. What are you if you do not think that?

Too funny. Three out of four people are NOT normal, so if three of your friends seem normal to you, then it must be you who isn't. (I forgot who said that.)

 

[MaggieMae]

Abortion assassinations certainly are political. VA Tech was simply by a crazy man.

Abortion has nothing to do with politics.

The Dems just decided to make it into a wedge issue.

And anyone who kills is a bit crazy. It doesn't matter the reason.

OMG, were you still in training pants during the 04 election? Karl Rove's mission was to gather all the Evangelical bigwigs in a big tent to convince their respective flocks of the evils of the Democrats and that they should denounce their IMMORAL practices, such as embracing abortion. George Bush's reelection was the result in most part of 78% of Evangelical Christians racing to the polling places thinking Roe v. Wade would surely be overturned if GWB was reelected and could concentrate efforts on cultural values.

 

[MaggieMae]

What is it that you are really trying to say, T? Come on, let your real T out, man.

Some rightwingers like to believe that because of that one phrase, the Declaration of Independence should take precedence over The Constitution which insures and promotes the wellbeing of ALL citizens.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The Declaration is the spirit of America while the Constitution is its charter and law. The one informs the other.

 

[Dr.House]

Abortion is not a political issue? Abortion is not a left/right issue?

When an issue transcends political lines, it ceases to become a left/right issue, you shitstain...

Just because you are pro-abortion doesn't mean all liberals are... Politics has no business being involved...

You're an idiot no matter what forum you post on... Congrats on that...

Well, anti-abortion terrorists are either conservatives, or doing it in the name of Christianity. Take your pick.

Extremist whackjobs acting on their own sounds about right...

Is it rightwing terrorism, Christian terrorism, or a little of both?

see above...

Are you trying to condemn both conservatism and Christianity based on the actions of a few whackjobs?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Hopefully, no more than Muslims and Islam based on the actions of a very small minority.

 

[chanel]

Jake and rdean seem to think that the only pro lifers and Christians are Rs. Last I checked most Catholics vote D. That's not an insignificant number. Oh and rumor has it that many Dem voting Blacks go to church too.

And I'm getting sick of the anti abortion "terrorism" shit. Remind us how many docs have been murdered in the name of "Christianity" in the past five years compared to those in the name of Islam?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Terrorism is terrorism, whether by Muslim extremists or whacked-out evangelical killers. All of it is rightfully condemned.

 

[mudwhistle]

Terrorism is terrorism, whether by Muslim extremists or whacked-out evangelical killers. All of it is rightfully condemned.

Course only a few seem to be the target where Islamic terrorists terrorize pretty much everyone they come in contact with and I think their effect is far reaching.

I don't think I'm gonna be getting a full-body cavity search at the airport because of any right-wing nutcase who wants to blow up abortion clinics.
Maybe we should have them strip-search everyone who goes in a clinic.
Wanna know why that ain't hapnin??? Because there's not enough of a threat to do it.......which is kind of indicative of where your argument is.

 

[Dr.House]

Hopefully, no more than Muslims and Islam based on the actions of a very small minority.

There's a bit of a difference, e-thug...

I charge you to find one mainstream Christian church actively encouraging it's parishioners to kill abortion doctors...

 

[JakeStarkey]

Terrorism is terrorism, whether by Muslim extremists or whacked-out evangelical killers. All of it is rightfully condemned.

Course only a few seem to be the target where Islamic terrorists terrorize pretty much everyone they come in contact with and I think their effect is far reaching.

I don't think I'm gonna be getting a full-body cavity search at the airport because of any right-wing nutcase who wants to blow up abortion clinics.
Maybe we should have them strip-search everyone who goes in a clinic.
Wanna know why that ain't hapnin??? Because there's not enough of a threat to do it.......which is kind of indicative of where your argument is.

Not at all, Mudwhistle. Both groups are terrorists. Each is bad as the other. And, personally, for Christians, the evangelical killers terribly smear our religion.