The party of Small Govt is at it again....in Florida this time

[Harpy Eagle]

It shouldn't even have be mandated.
A scummy employer , will take advantage.

Very good point, why would any employer not already do this.

 

[leftwinger]

Very good point, why would any employer not already do this.

not your business Karen.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

where does it end...

Indeed, where does it end? When will you big government loving morons quit wanting governing to happen on the highest level possible?

 

[Smokin' OP]

See post#11. Apparently you don’t read threads. But you post.

I read it.
DUHSantis is taking after Abbott.

Texas workers' water break rules will be eliminated as ...​

The Texas Tribune
https://www.texastribune.org › 2023/06/16 › texas-heat...
Jun 16, 2023 — Gov. Greg Abbott approved a law this week that will eliminate city and county ordinances like Austin's and Dallas' mandated water breaks.

 

[Lord-Humungus]

where does it end pantyliner? They must send a bus to pick you up at home? Driving is dangerous? just SHUP you Govt stooge.

Don’t be such a bitch. Treating people with kindness isn‘t going to hurt you. You’re the government stooge supporting this authoritarian action taking power away from localities.

 

[justoffal]

DeSantis signs bill banning the requirement of heat and water breaks for outdoor workers

Florida is seeing two more recent instances of state government under Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis limiting the powers of local government with newly-signed bills that deal with worker safety and police oversight.

www.fox35orlando.com

A bill signed Thursday bans local governments from requiring heat and water breaks for outdoor workers. And a bill DeSantis signed Friday strips local citizen police oversight boards from investigating officers.

So, via two bills the party of small Govt took away freedoms from smaller Govt and put all the power at the state level.

First off, why the fuck would anyone fight against mandatory water breaks in fucking Florida of all places. It is just not a good look.

But that aside, actual conservatives think that governing should be done at the lowest possible level. The state removing power from smaller governments is the opposite of conservatism.

I dunno....I didn't think we have all the details here. OSHA already has standards in place that the state cannot ignore. So the question I have is what did the newly proposed statutes enumerate? I think I have an idea.

Police departments have their own oversight boards. Last thing we need is a criminal persecuting a police officer
because he didn't want to be stopped from being a criminal.


Jo

 

[justoffal]

I read it.
DUHSantis is taking after Abbott.

Texas workers' water break rules will be eliminated as ...​

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The Texas Tribune
https://www.texastribune.org › 2023/06/16 › texas-heat...
Jun 16, 2023 — Gov. Greg Abbott approved a law this week that will eliminate city and county ordinances like Austin's and Dallas' mandated water breaks.

OSHA already regulates this.

 

[martybegan]

DeSantis signs bill banning the requirement of heat and water breaks for outdoor workers

Florida is seeing two more recent instances of state government under Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis limiting the powers of local government with newly-signed bills that deal with worker safety and police oversight.

www.fox35orlando.com

A bill signed Thursday bans local governments from requiring heat and water breaks for outdoor workers. And a bill DeSantis signed Friday strips local citizen police oversight boards from investigating officers.

So, via two bills the party of small Govt took away freedoms from smaller Govt and put all the power at the state level.

First off, why the fuck would anyone fight against mandatory water breaks in fucking Florida of all places. It is just not a good look.

But that aside, actual conservatives think that governing should be done at the lowest possible level. The state removing power from smaller governments is the opposite of conservatism.

Most conservatives are for limited FEDRAL government, in line with the original intent of the Constitution vis a vis federal government.

Also remember power in a State flows DOWN from the State government to local governments via home rule provisions. You aren't a citizen of Orlando for example, you are a Citizen of Florida, and local governments only have the powers given to them by the State Constitution and State laws.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

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No water or concrete ANYWHERE.

I will never get tired of that picture.

 

[BluesLegend]

Spoken like the true Big Govt nanny state supporter that you are.

Shrieking Chicken bawks something, meh.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Most conservatives are for limited FEDRAL government, in line with the original intent of the Constitution vis a vis federal government.

Also remember power in a State flows DOWN from the State government to local governments via home rule provisions. You aren't a citizen of Orlando for example, you are a Citizen of Florida, and local governments only have the powers given to them by the State Constitution and State laws.

Real conservatives are for governing to be done at the lowest level possible where the people have the most power over what is done

 

[Harpy Eagle]

OSHA already regulates this.

They have a minimum requirement, there are no rules against going beyond the minimum.

And also, OSHA is a national body, thus they are making rules for all 50 states at the same time. The needs in Montana are a bit different than the ones on Florida.

 

[BluesLegend]

Real conservatives are for governing to be done at the lowest level possible where the people have the most power over what is done

Oh FFS, he's eliminating government over regulation not increasing it.

 

[martybegan]

Real conservatives are for governing to be done at the lowest level possible where the people have the most power over what is done

You don't get to define that, and the State IS the lowest Constitutional level for governance.

It's up to the State to set its own home rule provisions, and this case, Florida doesn't want patchwork construction regulations with regards to this.

 

[BrokeLoser]

DeSantis signs bill banning the requirement of heat and water breaks for outdoor workers

Florida is seeing two more recent instances of state government under Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis limiting the powers of local government with newly-signed bills that deal with worker safety and police oversight.

www.fox35orlando.com

A bill signed Thursday bans local governments from requiring heat and water breaks for outdoor workers. And a bill DeSantis signed Friday strips local citizen police oversight boards from investigating officers.

So, via two bills the party of small Govt took away freedoms from smaller Govt and put all the power at the state level.

First off, why the fuck would anyone fight against mandatory water breaks in fucking Florida of all places. It is just not a good look.

But that aside, actual conservatives think that governing should be done at the lowest possible level. The state removing power from smaller governments is the opposite of conservatism.

Hahaha…yet, you “no government” loving hippies want lib run municipalities to force private contractors to force their employees to drink water at a given time….You never listen to yourself speak do you?
Aren’t you the same people who tell us how much we need brown slaves/Mexicans because they’ll work shit jobs for shit money and in shit conditions without bitching?
Look, mandatory water breaks are for unconditioned pussies…My guys are all given canteens that have a leash and caribiner attached..they are required to have them on their person at all times, it’s part of the uniform.

 

[Missourian]

But that aside, actual conservatives think that governing should be done at the lowest possible level. The state removing power from smaller governments is the opposite of conservatism.

Not necessarily.

Less government can mean one standard statewide instead of hundreds of a patchwork of individual law that must be catalogued and complied with by companies that may not be local...like construction or roofing companies.

And that is exactly the rationale presented...

Florida bill aims to ban local mandates for heat protection

The legislation on the desk of Gov. Ron DeSantis would block counties and cities from requiring companies to protect their workers from extreme heat.

www.constructiondive.com

 

[OKTexas]

DeSantis signs bill banning the requirement of heat and water breaks for outdoor workers

Florida is seeing two more recent instances of state government under Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis limiting the powers of local government with newly-signed bills that deal with worker safety and police oversight.

www.fox35orlando.com

A bill signed Thursday bans local governments from requiring heat and water breaks for outdoor workers. And a bill DeSantis signed Friday strips local citizen police oversight boards from investigating officers.

So, via two bills the party of small Govt took away freedoms from smaller Govt and put all the power at the state level.

First off, why the fuck would anyone fight against mandatory water breaks in fucking Florida of all places. It is just not a good look.

But that aside, actual conservatives think that governing should be done at the lowest possible level. The state removing power from smaller governments is the opposite of conservatism.

The first thing you need to understand, govts don't have freedoms, they have powers. Freedoms are what individual people have. Second there are State and Federal laws for these types of worker protections, commiecrat counties don't need to get involved. And if you were a police officer, would you want people to have your fait in their hands, if they have no experience in law enforcement and have a possible anti-police agenda? Personally I wonder if you even bothered to read your own link.

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[Deplorable Yankee]

DeSantis signs bill banning the requirement of heat and water breaks for outdoor workers

Florida is seeing two more recent instances of state government under Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis limiting the powers of local government with newly-signed bills that deal with worker safety and police oversight.

www.fox35orlando.com

A bill signed Thursday bans local governments from requiring heat and water breaks for outdoor workers. And a bill DeSantis signed Friday strips local citizen police oversight boards from investigating officers.

So, via two bills the party of small Govt took away freedoms from smaller Govt and put all the power at the state level.

First off, why the fuck would anyone fight against mandatory water breaks in fucking Florida of all places. It is just not a good look.

But that aside, actual conservatives think that governing should be done at the lowest possible level. The state removing power from smaller governments is the opposite of conservatism.

I don't think most employers would deny anyone a frigging drink of water....now drink your water shutup and get back to work

 

[Smokin' OP]

OSHA already regulates this.

They do.
But some cities, towns and municipalities, in Florida give workers more safety benefits than OSHA.

According to labor laws in the State of Florida, employers do not have to provide employees in the private sector with breaks, whether for meals or rest.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Second there are State and Federal laws for these types of worker protections, commiecrat counties don't need to get involved.

There are state and federal laws for most everything, by this logic there is no reason at all to even have city and county governments.

Being the proponent of big Govt you are you are unable see the benefit of governing being done at the lowest level possible where the people have the most power and control.

And if you were a police officer, would you want people to have your fait in their hands, if they have no experience in law enforcement and have a possible anti-police agenda?

I think civilian oversight boards are a good thing, the idea of letting police police themselves normally does not work out well.