The Palestine Solution

[Kondor3]

...I don't often take up the vae victus approach as there are many other avenues to disassemble the revisionist diatribe however it is the defining factor in the way things are today...

Agreed. It tends to cut through the bullshit and goes straight to the practical heart of the matter. No point in getting their little hopes up with zero prospect for success.

It's far kinder to nudge them back towards reality and sanity and the prospect of a better life, elsewhere; something that can only be done through frank pronouncements.

 

[Boston1]

...I don't often take up the vae victus approach as there are many other avenues to disassemble the revisionist diatribe however it is the defining factor in the way things are today...

Agreed. It tends to cut through the bullshit and goes straight to the practical heart of the matter. No point in getting their little hopes up with zero prospect for success.

Again agreed, but by delving into the revisionist diatribe its possible to convince at least some of them that the palestinian chaired and UN funded school system from which they draw their diatribe is nothing more than PR spin used by the powers that be to incite more generations of kids to a fruitless battle. There is very little truth to be found within the palestinian narrative and its by exposing that narrative for what it is that we MIGHT make some progress here. Although I doubt it and I fear you are right again. The only solution will be a military one. Which is why I suggest mass deportations of all violent offenders and their families across the Arab Jewish demarcation line and into Jordan.

 

[Kondor3]

...There is very little truth to be found within the palestinian narrative...

Oh, I don't dispute the value of persistently highlighting the details of the sham that Palestinian and other Arab leadership have foisted upon these hapless fools.

Both approaches are effective and both have their place in the grander scheme of things in this context.

 

[Boston1]

...There is very little truth to be found within the palestinian narrative...

Oh, I don't dispute the value of persistently highlighting the details of the sham that Palestinian and other Arab leadership have foisted upon these hapless fools.

Both approaches are effective and both have their place in the grander scheme of things in this context.

I just think its important that people realize the revisionist narrative is demonstrably false. Unfortunately the solution is most likely military in nature rather than a political one. The politics are rife with the revisionist BS and tyranny by majority.

 

[Humanity]

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But they didn't march over from modern Jordan.

Playing games with semantics doesn't alter the fact that many of them Jordan has no obligation to take the people, unless it annexes the land.

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WOW you just aren't able to grasp this. JORDAN IS THE NAME GIVEN TO THE PALESTINIAN ARAB STATE.

Need I repeat it ?

JORDAN IS THE PALESTINIAN STATE

Try it with me

JORDAN IS THE PALESTINIAN STATE

How are we doing over there. Need I repeat also what the Jordanians themselves have to say about this simple fact


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Jordan is Palestine. Palestine is Jordan.This is the royal decree and sentiments of two of the kings of Jordan.

“Palestine and Jordan are one…” said King Abdullah in 1948.

“The truth is that Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan,”said King Hussein of Jordan, in 1981.

Let’s closely examine the facts of history from the Arab perspective, rather than the Jewish one, regarding Jordan and Palestine.

“Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine; there is only one land, with one history and one and the same fate,” Prince Hassan of the Jordanian National Assembly was quoted as saying on February 2, 1970.

Accordingly, Abdul Hamid Sharif, Prime Minister of Jordan declared, in 1980, “The Palestinians and Jordanians do not belong to different nationalities. They hold the same Jordanian passports, are Arabs and have the same Jordanian culture.”

In other words, Jordan is Palestine. Arab Palestine. There is absolutely no difference between Jordan and Palestine, nor between Jordanians and Palestinians (all actually Arabs).

This fact is also confirmed by other Arabs, Jordanians and ‘Palestinans’ who were either rulers or scholars.

“There should be a kind of linkage because Jordanians and Palestinians are considered by the PLO as one people,”according to Farouk Kaddoumi, then head of the PLO Political Department, who gave the statement to Newsweek on March 14, 1977. Distinguished Arab-American Princeton University historian Philip Hitti testified before the Anglo-American Committee,

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This simple reality is so well established its seldom argued today other than by the revisionists who seek to run a new palestinian narrative up the flag pole after all the others have failed.

Maybe a map might help you comprehend the issue.

I'm not sure why you would refuse to admit this simple fact other than in an effort to maintain the pro palestinian revisionist narrative. In which case I think its fair to use one of the more polite references to this kind of behavior

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE

Ergo removing palestinian Arabs to the palestinian Arab state should be perfectly legal, before spin. After spin, and to no ones great surprise the palestinan Arabs are simply demanding more land in order to destabilize Israel through political means when violent means have failed.

IE
Your not fooling anyone

Best map I have seen for a long time....

Look... NO ISRAEL!!!

 

[Kondor3]

...Look... NO ISRAEL!!!

Only in your dreams, Achmed...

 

[Hollie]

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But they didn't march over from modern Jordan.

Playing games with semantics doesn't alter the fact that many of them Jordan has no obligation to take the people, unless it annexes the land.

End Quote

WOW you just aren't able to grasp this. JORDAN IS THE NAME GIVEN TO THE PALESTINIAN ARAB STATE.

Need I repeat it ?

JORDAN IS THE PALESTINIAN STATE

Try it with me

JORDAN IS THE PALESTINIAN STATE

How are we doing over there. Need I repeat also what the Jordanians themselves have to say about this simple fact


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Jordan is Palestine. Palestine is Jordan.This is the royal decree and sentiments of two of the kings of Jordan.

“Palestine and Jordan are one…” said King Abdullah in 1948.

“The truth is that Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan,”said King Hussein of Jordan, in 1981.

Let’s closely examine the facts of history from the Arab perspective, rather than the Jewish one, regarding Jordan and Palestine.

“Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine; there is only one land, with one history and one and the same fate,” Prince Hassan of the Jordanian National Assembly was quoted as saying on February 2, 1970.

Accordingly, Abdul Hamid Sharif, Prime Minister of Jordan declared, in 1980, “The Palestinians and Jordanians do not belong to different nationalities. They hold the same Jordanian passports, are Arabs and have the same Jordanian culture.”

In other words, Jordan is Palestine. Arab Palestine. There is absolutely no difference between Jordan and Palestine, nor between Jordanians and Palestinians (all actually Arabs).

This fact is also confirmed by other Arabs, Jordanians and ‘Palestinans’ who were either rulers or scholars.

“There should be a kind of linkage because Jordanians and Palestinians are considered by the PLO as one people,”according to Farouk Kaddoumi, then head of the PLO Political Department, who gave the statement to Newsweek on March 14, 1977. Distinguished Arab-American Princeton University historian Philip Hitti testified before the Anglo-American Committee,

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This simple reality is so well established its seldom argued today other than by the revisionists who seek to run a new palestinian narrative up the flag pole after all the others have failed.

Maybe a map might help you comprehend the issue.

I'm not sure why you would refuse to admit this simple fact other than in an effort to maintain the pro palestinian revisionist narrative. In which case I think its fair to use one of the more polite references to this kind of behavior

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE

Ergo removing palestinian Arabs to the palestinian Arab state should be perfectly legal, before spin. After spin, and to no ones great surprise the palestinan Arabs are simply demanding more land in order to destabilize Israel through political means when violent means have failed.

IE
Your not fooling anyone

Best map I have seen for a long time....

Look... NO ISRAEL!!!

Flail your Pom Poms all you like, but the Palestine Solution is a foregone conclusion. The islamist Middle Eastern nations near and adjacent to the Islamic terrorist "Pal'istanians" have, about a decade ago, made the choice to distance themselves from the economic and political liability of the eternal welfare fraud called "Pal'istanians".

The greater good comes from the greater cooperation. Egypt, Jordan and even Turkey are seeing where their greater economic and political interests can be directed and that is with (even a grudging admission), that aligning with success is better than promoting failure and ineptitude.

When ISIS starts 'asplodin Moslems in Egypt, Turkey and the areas occupied by the Pal'istanians who they find contemptable, who do you think those neighboring nations will align with?

 

[P F Tinmore]

...Look... NO ISRAEL!!!

Only in your dreams, Achmed...

Not everyone holds your view.

delegitimize israel - YouTube

 

[Boston1]

No one is responsible for the plight of the palestinians but the palestinians themselves. If they wish to remain in Israel they are going to have to behave themselves. Its either that or inevitable death or deportation. End of subject.

The Israeli government is already stepping up deportations.

See
'If violence continues, Israel to begin banishing Palestinians ...

Yes a logical and peaceful solution to the daily palestinian violence. Personally I'd prefer to see them deported to Jordan as Gaza is overcrowded already but in the end I don't care where they go as long as they are gone.

The obvious solution to the palestinians who refuse to live peacefully within society is to remove them from society and let them live in anarchy elsewhere, if they insist.

 

[montelatici]

No one is responsible for the plight of the palestinians but the palestinians themselves. If they wish to remain in Israel they are going to have to behave themselves. Its either that or inevitable death or deportation. End of subject.

The Israeli government is already stepping up deportations.

See
'If violence continues, Israel to begin banishing Palestinians ...

Yes a logical and peaceful solution to the daily palestinian violence. Personally I'd prefer to see them deported to Jordan as Gaza is overcrowded already but in the end I don't care where they go as long as they are gone.

The obvious solution to the palestinians who refuse to live peacefully within society is to remove them from society and let them live in anarchy elsewhere, if they insist.

How can the native people that were colonized by people from another continent be responsible for their plight? That is cognitive dissonance of the highest order.

 

[Hollie]

No one is responsible for the plight of the palestinians but the palestinians themselves. If they wish to remain in Israel they are going to have to behave themselves. Its either that or inevitable death or deportation. End of subject.

The Israeli government is already stepping up deportations.

See
'If violence continues, Israel to begin banishing Palestinians ...

Yes a logical and peaceful solution to the daily palestinian violence. Personally I'd prefer to see them deported to Jordan as Gaza is overcrowded already but in the end I don't care where they go as long as they are gone.

The obvious solution to the palestinians who refuse to live peacefully within society is to remove them from society and let them live in anarchy elsewhere, if they insist.

How can the native people that were colonized by people from another continent be responsible for their plight? That is cognitive dissonance of the highest order.

You fail to realize that the "native people" were not native at all but Islamist colonizers who used war and rapine as their method of colonization.

You're suffering from what is called cognitive dissonance.

 

[Boston1]

No one is responsible for the plight of the palestinians but the palestinians themselves. If they wish to remain in Israel they are going to have to behave themselves. Its either that or inevitable death or deportation. End of subject.

The Israeli government is already stepping up deportations.

See
'If violence continues, Israel to begin banishing Palestinians ...

Yes a logical and peaceful solution to the daily palestinian violence. Personally I'd prefer to see them deported to Jordan as Gaza is overcrowded already but in the end I don't care where they go as long as they are gone.

The obvious solution to the palestinians who refuse to live peacefully within society is to remove them from society and let them live in anarchy elsewhere, if they insist.

How can the native people that were colonized by people from another continent be responsible for their plight? That is cognitive dissonance of the highest order.

Yikes, how far will the revisionist lies go.

Only about 35% of Israelis returned from Europe. 25% fled or were forced to flee from Arab countries. They returned to their native homeland Judea. And while the local Arab population was willing to sell their land ( at inflated prices ) to the refugees so much land was willingly sold that the remaining Arabs made laws forbidding any further sales to Jews. A blatantly racist policy.

From there we all know what happened

The local arabs rose up to engage in another pogrom against the Judaic people except this time

THEY LOST

In which case, once again, the palestinians have no one to blame but themselves

 

[Boston1]

No one is responsible for the plight of the palestinians but the palestinians themselves. If they wish to remain in Israel they are going to have to behave themselves. Its either that or inevitable death or deportation. End of subject.

The Israeli government is already stepping up deportations.

See
'If violence continues, Israel to begin banishing Palestinians ...

Yes a logical and peaceful solution to the daily palestinian violence. Personally I'd prefer to see them deported to Jordan as Gaza is overcrowded already but in the end I don't care where they go as long as they are gone.

The obvious solution to the palestinians who refuse to live peacefully within society is to remove them from society and let them live in anarchy elsewhere, if they insist.

How can the native people that were colonized by people from another continent be responsible for their plight? That is cognitive dissonance of the highest order.

You fail to realize that the "native people" were not native at all but Islamist colonizers who used war and rapine as their method of colonization.

You're suffering from what is called cognitive dissonance.

Bingo

 

[montelatici]

The native people of Palestine resisted colonization by Europeans. Jews owned less than 95% of the land before partition.

 

[montelatici]

BTW you are fighting a losing battle. There is no way any neutral observer will blame colonization on the colonized. It is illogical.

 

[Boston1]

BTW the subject is the palestinian solution.

To which restrictions and deportation is the answer.

as far as any claims of Arabs being the native peoples of Judea.

 

[Shusha]

BTW you are fighting a losing battle. There is no way any neutral observer will blame colonization on the colonized. It is illogical.

There is no way any neutral observer could label the Jewish people colonizers of their own homeland.

 

[Boston1]

BTW you are fighting a losing battle. There is no way any neutral observer will blame colonization on the colonized. It is illogical.

There is no way any neutral observer could label the Jewish people colonizers of their own homeland.

Bingo

where's the thanks button on this thing ?

 

[Shusha]

The solution to the problem is to dump the ideology that the Jewish people have no rights to self-determination AND to dump the ideology that the Palestinians have no rights to self-determination. Everyone needs to just stop discussing the lack of rights and start discussing an acknowledgement of rights.

The solution to the problem is to drop all of the arguments about why this people or that people should have no rights or limited rights and instead focus on what steps may be practical, reasonable, fair, balanced and will move us forward. In other words, to do what every resolution and every treaty has done since this whole thing started after WWI. What can people live with?

Personally, I don't think the Palestinians, or some groups of Muslims, are capable of any of these things. But we, as in those on this forum, should be able to let go of our ideologies and biases long enough to solve the problem. And then, together, maybe we can talk some sense into them on an international scale.

So let's focus on the future: what can both the Jewish people and the Palestinian people accept?

 

[montelatici]

BTW you are fighting a losing battle. There is no way any neutral observer will blame colonization on the colonized. It is illogical.

There is no way any neutral observer could label the Jewish people colonizers of their own homeland.

Not only would a neutral observer label the Zionists colonizers, they labeled themselves colonizers in writing as early as 1899.