The Obama legacy: 92898000 Americans not working

[Freewill]

the RW's have no idea how to calculate unemployment #'s and OFFER no way to calculate unemployment #'s ... they simply disagree with any and ALL unemployment #'s... makes their life simple ... just like them.

I provided two links that show how participation rate and unemployed and employed are calculated. Your failure to read either is not a failure on anyone else's part.

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which one? ^^^^^^^^^ then define it. .. or pick one and I'll define it for you.

where would the economy be if 92 million people were unemployed and trying to pay bills ...logic totally escapes RW fools

Not sure what you are demanding and stomping your feet over.

Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization

Not seasonally adjustedSeasonally adjusted
Feb.2014Jan.2015Feb.2015Feb.2014Oct.2014Nov.2014Dec.2014Jan.2015Feb.2015

U-1 Persons unemployed 15 weeks or longer, as a percent of the civilian labor force

3.6 2.7 2.7 3.5 2.8 2.7 2.6 2.7 2.6
U-2 Job losers and persons who completed temporary jobs, as a percent of the civilian labor force

3.9 3.1 3.0 3.5 2.8 2.9 2.8 2.7 2.7
U-3 Total unemployed, as a percent of the civilian labor force (official unemployment rate)

7.0 6.1 5.8 6.7 5.7 5.8 5.6 5.7 5.5
U-4 Total unemployed plus discouraged workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus discouraged workers

7.5 6.5 6.3 7.1 6.2 6.2 6.0 6.1 6.0
U-5 Total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, plus all other persons marginally attached to the labor force, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

8.4 7.4 7.1 8.0 7.1 7.1 6.9 7.0 6.8
U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

13.1 12.0 11.4 12.6 11.5 11.4 11.2 11.3 11.0

 

[Siete]

the RW's have no idea how to calculate unemployment #'s and OFFER no way to calculate unemployment #'s ... they simply disagree with any and ALL unemployment #'s... makes their life simple ... just like them.

I provided two links that show how participation rate and unemployed and employed are calculated. Your failure to read either is not a failure on anyone else's part.

U1
U2
U3
U4
U5
U6


which one? ^^^^^^^^^ then define it. .. or pick one and I'll define it for you.

where would the economy be if 92 million people were unemployed and trying to pay bills ...logic totally escapes RW fools

Not sure what you are demanding and stomping your feet over.

Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization

Not seasonally adjustedSeasonally adjusted
Feb.2014Jan.2015Feb.2015Feb.2014Oct.2014Nov.2014Dec.2014Jan.2015Feb.2015

U-1 Persons unemployed 15 weeks or longer, as a percent of the civilian labor force

3.6 2.7 2.7 3.5 2.8 2.7 2.6 2.7 2.6
U-2 Job losers and persons who completed temporary jobs, as a percent of the civilian labor force

3.9 3.1 3.0 3.5 2.8 2.9 2.8 2.7 2.7
U-3 Total unemployed, as a percent of the civilian labor force (official unemployment rate)

7.0 6.1 5.8 6.7 5.7 5.8 5.6 5.7 5.5
U-4 Total unemployed plus discouraged workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus discouraged workers

7.5 6.5 6.3 7.1 6.2 6.2 6.0 6.1 6.0
U-5 Total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, plus all other persons marginally attached to the labor force, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

8.4 7.4 7.1 8.0 7.1 7.1 6.9 7.0 6.8
U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

13.1 12.0 11.4 12.6 11.5 11.4 11.2 11.3 11.0

so your answer is what? how do you calculate unemployment ( and that's ^^^^ not defining anything)

 

[Faun]

the RW's have no idea how to calculate unemployment #'s and OFFER no way to calculate unemployment #'s ... they simply disagree with any and ALL unemployment #'s... makes their life simple ... just like them.

I provided two links that show how participation rate and unemployed and employed are calculated. Your failure to read either is not a failure on anyone else's part.

U1
U2
U3
U4
U5
U6


which one? ^^^^^^^^^ then define it. .. or pick one and I'll define it for you.

where would the economy be if 92 million people were unemployed and trying to pay bills ...logic totally escapes RW fools

Not sure what you are demanding and stomping your feet over.

Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization

Not seasonally adjustedSeasonally adjusted
Feb.2014Jan.2015Feb.2015Feb.2014Oct.2014Nov.2014Dec.2014Jan.2015Feb.2015

U-1 Persons unemployed 15 weeks or longer, as a percent of the civilian labor force

3.6 2.7 2.7 3.5 2.8 2.7 2.6 2.7 2.6
U-2 Job losers and persons who completed temporary jobs, as a percent of the civilian labor force

3.9 3.1 3.0 3.5 2.8 2.9 2.8 2.7 2.7
U-3 Total unemployed, as a percent of the civilian labor force (official unemployment rate)

7.0 6.1 5.8 6.7 5.7 5.8 5.6 5.7 5.5
U-4 Total unemployed plus discouraged workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus discouraged workers

7.5 6.5 6.3 7.1 6.2 6.2 6.0 6.1 6.0
U-5 Total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, plus all other persons marginally attached to the labor force, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

8.4 7.4 7.1 8.0 7.1 7.1 6.9 7.0 6.8
U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

13.1 12.0 11.4 12.6 11.5 11.4 11.2 11.3 11.0

Hey, look at that! You finally went to bls.gov instead of about.com for BLS information. See how much more accurate that is?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Another point the RW propagandists always leave out -

the number of discouraged workers peaked in 2010 and has been falling ever since:

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
2005 515 485 480 393 392 476 499 384 362 392 404 451 436
2006 396 386 451 381 323 481 428 448 325 331 349 274 381
2007 442 375 381 399 368 401 367 392 276 320 349 363 369
2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642 462
2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929 778
2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318 1173
2011 993 1020 921 989 822 982 1119 977 1037 967 1096 945 989
2012 1059 1006 865 968 830 821 852 844 802 813 979 1068 909
2013 804 885 803 835 780 1027 988 866 852 815 762 917 861
2014 837 755 698 783 697 676 741 775 698 770 698 740 739
2015 682 732

 

[Rexx Taylor]

all we can hope for is that the 10's of millions who live off the government will forget to vote in 2016 while they are too occupied spending our money on gadgets,food, prostitutes, vacations, etc.

 

[NYcarbineer]

the RW's have no idea how to calculate unemployment #'s and OFFER no way to calculate unemployment #'s ... they simply disagree with any and ALL unemployment #'s... makes their life simple ... just like them.

Lemme 'splain it to ya .... in the rightwing mind, no Liberal can do anything right. So when something does go right under a Liberal's leadership, their brain simply cannot process it. They're wired like that. So for them, as backwards thinking as it is, they have to find some reason to explain it to where it makes sense to them. When the economy boomed under Clinton, their deformed brains couldn't let Clinton have any credit, so they idiotically credited Reagan (they had to skip past Bush Sr. Since the economy tanked under him). We now witness the same pathology under Obama. Again, their brain simply cannot comprehend a Liberal doing any good. But since they can't credit Bush and since Reagan is too distant a memory now, there is no Conservative they can credit. This sort of limits their options. The two options the herd has glommed onto are the U3 unemployment rate does not tell the true picture, or none of Obama's BLS numbers can be trusted. Only then does the rightwingnut brain see what it perceives as "reality."

... hope that clears it up for ya!

There will never be a number RWnuts will acknowledge is a good number, until a Republican is president, IOW, hopefully never.

 

[Siete]

all we can hope for is that the 10's of millions who live off the government will forget to vote in 2016 while they are too occupied spending our money on gadgets,food, prostitutes, vacations, etc.

and those people didn't exist when 43 was in office did they?

In the fourth quarter of 2008, when President Obama was elected, there were 96,197,000 people living in households taking benefits from one or more federal welfare programs. After four years, and following a recession, by the fourth quarter of 2012, that had grown by 13,434,000.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

If you believe the numbers (which I don't) that's a good start. Sure.

But why would anyone give "credit" to Obumbler for any improvement in the nation's employment figures? Is he hiring more Secret Service agents or sumpin'?

Denial....then, Obama didn't do it

About what I expected

And we all expect you to "buy" the notion that a President IS personally responsible for and deserving of credit when the economy generates jobs.

Job cycles have nothing to do with it. No no. An uptick in the reported economy MUST be the personal accomplishment of that hack in the Oval Office.

Of course. Now that you've explained it all so clearly, it's obvious.

As we all expected.

Of course Obama is personally responsible for employment

Just read the OP

No. At MOST a President (by his policies) can help foster an economic atmosphere that assists the economy OR undermines the economy. And in a working Constitutional Republic, the legislative branch would also share that power and ability.

Many of your fellow liberals are more than happy to USE the fairly random upticks in the economy as evidence that The ONE must be doing a good job. But it remains a fantasy.

At present, Obumbler is more of a stumbling block than anything else. The Keystone veto springs to mind.

"The Keystone veto springs to mind"

You mean the 35 permanent jobs?

I don't share your faith in SOROS' faked numbers, bf.

I also don't choose to share your deliberate ignorance on the actual value to our economy of that pipeline.

When Presidunce Obumbler yapped about "shovel ready jobs" he was talking about construction jobs usually involving "infrastructure." In your propaganda laden universe, do you choose to pretend that he was talking about "permanent" jobs?

Or, possibly, are you capable of admitting that when we talk about construction jobs, we are talking about serial temporary jobs? One after the other. THAT'S what keeps construction employees working.

And is there some reason you choose to wholly ignore the economic benefits to the U.S. of a steady supply of non-Arab petroleum?

 

[AceRothstein]

the RW's have no idea how to calculate unemployment #'s and OFFER no way to calculate unemployment #'s ... they simply disagree with any and ALL unemployment #'s... makes their life simple ... just like them.

I provided two links that show how participation rate and unemployed and employed are calculated. Your failure to read either is not a failure on anyone else's part.

Get some better links. Your sources are wrong.

 

[Faun]

the RW's have no idea how to calculate unemployment #'s and OFFER no way to calculate unemployment #'s ... they simply disagree with any and ALL unemployment #'s... makes their life simple ... just like them.

I provided two links that show how participation rate and unemployed and employed are calculated. Your failure to read either is not a failure on anyone else's part.

Get some better links. Your sources are wrong.

But ... but ... how can his sources be wrong? They agree with him.

 

[Rozman]

The Obama legacy....
He learned about stuff going on under his nose from watching it on the news shows...

 

[pinqy]

the RW's have no idea how to calculate unemployment #'s and OFFER no way to calculate unemployment #'s ... they simply disagree with any and ALL unemployment #'s... makes their life simple ... just like them.

I provided two links that show how participation rate and unemployed and employed are calculated. Your failure to read either is not a failure on anyone else's part.

Get some better links. Your sources are wrong.

But ... but ... how can his sources be wrong? They agree with him.

They don't even agree with each other. His first link falsely claims that the population used is only age 16-64. His second link correctly states it as age 16+

 

[NYcarbineer]

the RW's have no idea how to calculate unemployment #'s and OFFER no way to calculate unemployment #'s ... they simply disagree with any and ALL unemployment #'s... makes their life simple ... just like them.

I provided two links that show how participation rate and unemployed and employed are calculated. Your failure to read either is not a failure on anyone else's part.

U1
U2
U3
U4
U5
U6


which one? ^^^^^^^^^ then define it. .. or pick one and I'll define it for you.

where would the economy be if 92 million people were unemployed and trying to pay bills ...logic totally escapes RW fools

Not sure what you are demanding and stomping your feet over.

Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization

Not seasonally adjustedSeasonally adjusted
Feb.2014Jan.2015Feb.2015Feb.2014Oct.2014Nov.2014Dec.2014Jan.2015Feb.2015

U-1 Persons unemployed 15 weeks or longer, as a percent of the civilian labor force

3.6 2.7 2.7 3.5 2.8 2.7 2.6 2.7 2.6
U-2 Job losers and persons who completed temporary jobs, as a percent of the civilian labor force

3.9 3.1 3.0 3.5 2.8 2.9 2.8 2.7 2.7
U-3 Total unemployed, as a percent of the civilian labor force (official unemployment rate)

7.0 6.1 5.8 6.7 5.7 5.8 5.6 5.7 5.5
U-4 Total unemployed plus discouraged workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus discouraged workers

7.5 6.5 6.3 7.1 6.2 6.2 6.0 6.1 6.0
U-5 Total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, plus all other persons marginally attached to the labor force, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

8.4 7.4 7.1 8.0 7.1 7.1 6.9 7.0 6.8
U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

13.1 12.0 11.4 12.6 11.5 11.4 11.2 11.3 11.0

All those numbers have been improving.

 

[jasonnfree]

all we can hope for is that the 10's of millions who live off the government will forget to vote in 2016 while they are too occupied spending our money on gadgets,food, prostitutes, vacations, etc.

At the same time, corporations will get their welfare, which doesn't seem to concern you people on the right. Just repeating the same old crap we've heard for the last 30+ years since reagan, about how America's in trouble because of people on welfare.

 

[LoneLaugher]

all we can hope for is that the 10's of millions who live off the government will forget to vote in 2016 while they are too occupied spending our money on gadgets,food, prostitutes, vacations, etc.

Tens of millions? Is that the number? There are tens of millions of able bodied voting age Americans living off of the government?

How many tens? Can you please be a little more specific?

 

[Rexx Taylor]

all we can hope for is that the 10's of millions who live off the government will forget to vote in 2016 while they are too occupied spending our money on gadgets,food, prostitutes, vacations, etc.

At the same time, corporations will get their welfare, which doesn't seem to concern you people on the right. Just repeating the same old crap we've heard for the last 30+ years since reagan, about how America's in trouble because of people on welfare.

sooner or later it all comes to an end when we run out of "Free Money" !!!! god only knows what happens when we pass the 20 Trillion Mark? Tax the rich? really? whats a few billion dollars going to do when we owe 20 Million Million Dollars? (you have to wonder if the 25% who love Obama have any idea how much is one trillion).

 

[LoneLaugher]

all we can hope for is that the 10's of millions who live off the government will forget to vote in 2016 while they are too occupied spending our money on gadgets,food, prostitutes, vacations, etc.

At the same time, corporations will get their welfare, which doesn't seem to concern you people on the right. Just repeating the same old crap we've heard for the last 30+ years since reagan, about how America's in trouble because of people on welfare.

sooner or later it all comes to an end when we run out of "Free Money" !!!! god only knows what happens when we pass the 20 Trillion Mark? Tax the rich? really? whats a few billion dollars going to do when we owe 20 Million Million Dollars? (you have to wonder if the 25% who love Obama have any idea how much is one trillion).

Who do we owe it to?

 

[HenryBHough]

China.

But they're wising up.....

 

[LoneLaugher]

China.

But they're wising up.....

China, huh? Are we still able to borrow more money from China?

 

[Rexx Taylor]

and to think there was once a time when i owed 29,000. it was the end of the world for me.