The most racist movies ever made (part 1)

[Tommy Tainant]

The Alamo was made during the Cold War.

When it was ok to distort the truth ?

Unfortunately, yes. If you have seen the movie then you know that it doesn't deal with any of the actual causes. There is no 'truth'. John Wayne was about as anti-communist as it gets. He was directing. Had there been no Cold War, this film would not have existed.

For most of my life that movie formed my opinion of the Alamo, I suspect that is true for most of the world. Im not looking to get stuff like this banned but there hould be a big warning sign on these movies because they pack a powerful message.

So, you weren't interested in the Alamo enough to actually research it? Buy a book or two?

No. No warning signs. We don't need them. In fact, we have a plethora of information available that covers "the other" in films, history of films, politics in films, etc. and so on. All that needs to happen is to read it.

Ive read a book called "A Line in the Sand" which was a good read.

Well, your lack of interest in the Alamo or in the history of film doesn't warrant labels.

Ive read a book and watched a film. Thats a decent investment of time in the issue. More than most of the idiots on here have done anyway.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Just reading the thread about Gone With the Wind and its fair to say that librul Hollywood has a pretty shabby record over the years.
My afternoon movie yesterday was The Alamo which I have seen many times before.

Wayne intended the film to be a celebration of courage and glorifying a fight for freedom but there are parts of the film that gloss over the history and make very uncomfortable viewing.

Jim Bowie grants freedom to his slave, s their doom is approaching. The old guy decides that because he is free he will stick by Bowie and fight those baddie Mexicans to death.

Now that might have been the actuality but it was shown without any context. Maintaining slavery was one of the issues that the texans were fighting for. There was no slavery in Mexico at that time and the old guy, Jethro, could have just walked out the gates to a better life at any time.

The film shows an untrue idealistic version of the realities and paints a deceptive version of slavery.

The narrative is - Texas =good, Mexico = bad. And that probably exists to today. Texas was good for some but not for everyone. Santanna was a nasty twat but Texas was Mexican land.


Freedom for Texas meant a future as a dirty slave state and that was not a cause that should be glorified, it certainly should not be covered up with a deceptive act of kindness.

I can still watch the film and enjoy the spectacle but the talky bits between the action leaves me cold. I suspect that it isnt the worst offender if we were making a list.

the most racist and sexist show that I've watched is Have you been served

I think we knew at the time that it was shit.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The Alamo was made during the Cold War.

When it was ok to distort the truth ?

Nobody should ever make a movie then.

Is that what you are saying.

I had a friend walk out of a Star Wars movie and say it was racist.

He's a far left winger and I thought....how it must suck to be these guys.

Now, I think it must suck to be you.

I doubt that you have any friends.

 

[Disir]

The Alamo was made during the Cold War.

When it was ok to distort the truth ?

Unfortunately, yes. If you have seen the movie then you know that it doesn't deal with any of the actual causes. There is no 'truth'. John Wayne was about as anti-communist as it gets. He was directing. Had there been no Cold War, this film would not have existed.

For most of my life that movie formed my opinion of the Alamo, I suspect that is true for most of the world. Im not looking to get stuff like this banned but there hould be a big warning sign on these movies because they pack a powerful message.

So, you weren't interested in the Alamo enough to actually research it? Buy a book or two?

No. No warning signs. We don't need them. In fact, we have a plethora of information available that covers "the other" in films, history of films, politics in films, etc. and so on. All that needs to happen is to read it.

Ive read a book called "A Line in the Sand" which was a good read.

Well, your lack of interest in the Alamo or in the history of film doesn't warrant labels.

Ive read a book and watched a film. Thats a decent investment of time in the issue. More than most of the idiots on here have done anyway.

Get back to me when you have read several books in either category.

 

[miketx]

Just reading the thread about Gone With the Wind and its fair to say that librul Hollywood has a pretty shabby record over the years.
My afternoon movie yesterday was The Alamo which I have seen many times before.

Wayne intended the film to be a celebration of courage and glorifying a fight for freedom but there are parts of the film that gloss over the history and make very uncomfortable viewing.

Jim Bowie grants freedom to his slave, s their doom is approaching. The old guy decides that because he is free he will stick by Bowie and fight those baddie Mexicans to death.

Now that might have been the actuality but it was shown without any context. Maintaining slavery was one of the issues that the texans were fighting for. There was no slavery in Mexico at that time and the old guy, Jethro, could have just walked out the gates to a better life at any time.

The film shows an untrue idealistic version of the realities and paints a deceptive version of slavery.

The narrative is - Texas =good, Mexico = bad. And that probably exists to today. Texas was good for some but not for everyone. Santanna was a nasty twat but Texas was Mexican land.


Freedom for Texas meant a future as a dirty slave state and that was not a cause that should be glorified, it certainly should not be covered up with a deceptive act of kindness.

I can still watch the film and enjoy the spectacle but the talky bits between the action leaves me cold. I suspect that it isnt the worst offender if we were making a list.

Idiot thinks the movie is real.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The Alamo was made during the Cold War.

When it was ok to distort the truth ?

Nobody should ever make a movie then.

Is that what you are saying.

I had a friend walk out of a Star Wars movie and say it was racist.

He's a far left winger and I thought....how it must suck to be these guys.

Now, I think it must suck to be you.

I doubt that you have any friends.

Yeah, because I ratted them out for holding a garden party.

You stupid fuck.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The Alamo was made during the Cold War.

When it was ok to distort the truth ?

Unfortunately, yes. If you have seen the movie then you know that it doesn't deal with any of the actual causes. There is no 'truth'. John Wayne was about as anti-communist as it gets. He was directing. Had there been no Cold War, this film would not have existed.

For most of my life that movie formed my opinion of the Alamo, I suspect that is true for most of the world. Im not looking to get stuff like this banned but there hould be a big warning sign on these movies because they pack a powerful message.

So, you weren't interested in the Alamo enough to actually research it? Buy a book or two?

No. No warning signs. We don't need them. In fact, we have a plethora of information available that covers "the other" in films, history of films, politics in films, etc. and so on. All that needs to happen is to read it.

Ive read a book called "A Line in the Sand" which was a good read.

Well, your lack of interest in the Alamo or in the history of film doesn't warrant labels.

Ive read a book and watched a film. Thats a decent investment of time in the issue. More than most of the idiots on here have done anyway.

Get back to me when you have read several books in either category.

Perhaps you could name some that I need to study ?

 

[Mac-7]

Of course, racial stereotypes can also be used to advance equality.

I refer to the Charlie Chan movies of the 1930s and 1940s.

Mr. Chan was shown to be one wise dude.

He was shown to be a loving father to his family.

He was always treated respectfully by Caucasians and was allowed in public accommodations without any problems.

Yes, "Charlie Chan" was always played by a Caucasian actor.

That was just how it was in those days. Quite frankly, maybe those movies would not have been so popular if the main character had actually been played by a Chinese-American.

Hollywood could have had Bruce Lee in the Fung Fu series but chose some jerk who could barely perform the basic moves in slow motion

Them’s the breaks

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

Of course, racial stereotypes can also be used to advance equality.

I refer to the Charlie Chan movies of the 1930s and 1940s.

Mr. Chan was shown to be one wise dude.

He was shown to be a loving father to his family.

He was always treated respectfully by Caucasians and was allowed in public accommodations without any problems.

Yes, "Charlie Chan" was always played by a Caucasian actor.

That was just how it was in those days. Quite frankly, maybe those movies would not have been so popular if the main character had actually been played by a Chinese-American.

Hollywood could have had Bruce Lee in the Fung Fu series but chose some jerk who could barely perform the basic moves in slow motion

Them’s the breaks

I liked David Caradine in Kung Fu!
"ah grasshopper!"

I might have liked 'Gone To The Dogs'!
There was little about the Civil war though, still despite all that US female talent it needed a
Brit Vivien Leigh to play the so called southern belle.

Favorite film was Psycho. Norman Bates typified american post war male youth insecurity in the late 50's.

 

[Disir]

The Alamo was made during the Cold War.

When it was ok to distort the truth ?

Unfortunately, yes. If you have seen the movie then you know that it doesn't deal with any of the actual causes. There is no 'truth'. John Wayne was about as anti-communist as it gets. He was directing. Had there been no Cold War, this film would not have existed.

For most of my life that movie formed my opinion of the Alamo, I suspect that is true for most of the world. Im not looking to get stuff like this banned but there hould be a big warning sign on these movies because they pack a powerful message.

So, you weren't interested in the Alamo enough to actually research it? Buy a book or two?

No. No warning signs. We don't need them. In fact, we have a plethora of information available that covers "the other" in films, history of films, politics in films, etc. and so on. All that needs to happen is to read it.

Ive read a book called "A Line in the Sand" which was a good read.

Well, your lack of interest in the Alamo or in the history of film doesn't warrant labels.

Ive read a book and watched a film. Thats a decent investment of time in the issue. More than most of the idiots on here have done anyway.

Get back to me when you have read several books in either category.

Perhaps you could name some that I need to study ?

Three Roads to the Alamo

"William C. Davis's Three Roads to the Alamo is far and away the best account of the Alamo I have ever read. The portraits of Crockett, Bowie, and Travis are brilliantly sketched in a fast-moving story that keeps the reader riveted to the very last word." — Stephen B. Oates Three

www.harpercollins.com

Texian Iliad A Military History of the Texas Revolution, 1835-1836 By Stephen L. Hardin

The first complete military history of the Texas Revolution, drawing on many original Texan and Mexican sources and on-site inspections of almost every battlefield.

utpress.utexas.edu

The Gates of the Alamo by Stephen Harrigan: 9780525431817 | PenguinRandomHouse.com: Books

A New York Times bestselling novel, modern historical classic, and winner of the TCU Texas Book Award, The Spur Award and the Wrangler Award for Outstanding Western Novel It’s 1836, and the...

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Criminalization/assimilation : Chinese/Americans and Chinatowns in classical Hollywood film | WorldCat.org

Criminalization/Assimilation traces how Classical Hollywood films constructed America's image of Chinese Americans from their criminalization as unwanted immigrants to their eventual acceptance when a

www.worldcat.org

Performing difference : representations of "the other" in film and theater (Book, 2009) [WorldCat.org]

Get this from a library! Performing difference : representations of

www.worldcat.org

Celluloid Indians

Native American characters have been the most malleable of metaphors for filmmakers. The likeable Doc of Stagecoach (1939) had audiences on the edge of their seats with dire warnings about "that old butcher, Geronimo." Old Lodgeskins of Little Big Man (1970) had viewers crying out against the...

books.google.com

Seeing Red--Hollywood's Pixeled Skins: American Indians and Film|eBook

At once informative, comic, and plaintive, Seeing RedHollywood’s Pixeled Skins is an anthology of critical reviews that reexamines the ways in which American Indians have traditionally been portrayed in film. From George B. Seitz’s 1925 The Vanishing American to...

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Robot Check

You can go to university open sourceware like MIT and identify a course and pull other books from readings listed in the syllabus.

Readings and Films | Queer Cinema and Visual Culture | Women's and Gender Studies | MIT OpenCourseWare

This section contains the course readings and films.

ocw.mit.edu

 

[Gracie]

Is White Men Can't Jump racist?
What about White Girls, played by two black men?

 

[Mac-7]

Favorite film was Psycho. Norman Bates typified american post war male youth insecurity in the late 50's.

Careful

your UK penis envy for America is showing

you know, I’m a reformed anglophile thanks to brits like you

 

[Squee]

despite all that US female talent it needed a
Brit Vivien Leigh to play the so called southern belle.

Because the women in the south refused to allow a Yankee play the part. Leigh nailed it so it’s a moot point.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Just reading the thread about Gone With the Wind and its fair to say that librul Hollywood has a pretty shabby record over the years.
My afternoon movie yesterday was The Alamo which I have seen many times before.

Wayne intended the film to be a celebration of courage and glorifying a fight for freedom but there are parts of the film that gloss over the history and make very uncomfortable viewing.

Jim Bowie grants freedom to his slave, s their doom is approaching. The old guy decides that because he is free he will stick by Bowie and fight those baddie Mexicans to death.

Now that might have been the actuality but it was shown without any context. Maintaining slavery was one of the issues that the texans were fighting for. There was no slavery in Mexico at that time and the old guy, Jethro, could have just walked out the gates to a better life at any time.

The film shows an untrue idealistic version of the realities and paints a deceptive version of slavery.

The narrative is - Texas =good, Mexico = bad. And that probably exists to today. Texas was good for some but not for everyone. Santanna was a nasty twat but Texas was Mexican land.


Freedom for Texas meant a future as a dirty slave state and that was not a cause that should be glorified, it certainly should not be covered up with a deceptive act of kindness.

I can still watch the film and enjoy the spectacle but the talky bits between the action leaves me cold. I suspect that it isnt the worst offender if we were making a list.

the most racist and sexist show that I've watched is Have you been served

I think you mean "Are you being served?" . It's pretty funny!

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Mexicans are bad to this very day.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Anything Mel Brooks.
I'm gonna get you Sucka
The Last Dragon
White Girls
Little Big Man

 

[Disir]

Mel Brooks wasn't racist. The whole point of his films was to ridicule racism.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Mel Brooks wasn't racist. The whole point of his films was to ridicule racism.

I kno...shh..

 

[yidnar]

Just reading the thread about Gone With the Wind and its fair to say that librul Hollywood has a pretty shabby record over the years.
My afternoon movie yesterday was The Alamo which I have seen many times before.

Wayne intended the film to be a celebration of courage and glorifying a fight for freedom but there are parts of the film that gloss over the history and make very uncomfortable viewing.

Jim Bowie grants freedom to his slave, s their doom is approaching. The old guy decides that because he is free he will stick by Bowie and fight those baddie Mexicans to death.

Now that might have been the actuality but it was shown without any context. Maintaining slavery was one of the issues that the texans were fighting for. There was no slavery in Mexico at that time and the old guy, Jethro, could have just walked out the gates to a better life at any time.

The film shows an untrue idealistic version of the realities and paints a deceptive version of slavery.

The narrative is - Texas =good, Mexico = bad. And that probably exists to today. Texas was good for some but not for everyone. Santanna was a nasty twat but Texas was Mexican land.


Freedom for Texas meant a future as a dirty slave state and that was not a cause that should be glorified, it certainly should not be covered up with a deceptive act of kindness.

I can still watch the film and enjoy the spectacle but the talky bits between the action leaves me cold. I suspect that it isnt the worst offender if we were making a list.

Movies are about making money and largely reflect the sentiments of the time, whatever they might be, as to make more money.

There is a great documentary to be made there. In the UK there is a show called "It was alrite in the 60s" or 70s or 80s..............that shows how far things have changed for the better. Whatis most shocking is clips from shows you thought were great at the time. Uncomfortable viewing t times.

The Alamo was made during the Cold War.

When it was ok to distort the truth ?

Unfortunately, yes. If you have seen the movie then you know that it doesn't deal with any of the actual causes. There is no 'truth'. John Wayne was about as anti-communist as it gets. He was directing. Had there been no Cold War, this film would not have existed.

For most of my life that movie formed my opinion of the Alamo, I suspect that is true for most of the world. Im not looking to get stuff like this banned but there hould be a big warning sign on these movies because they pack a powerful message.

well ...i feel bad bad that you were misledand.... i want to make up for it ..... heres a lifetime supply of toothpaste for those UK teeth ...

 

[Disir]

Mel Brooks wasn't racist. The whole point of his films was to ridicule racism.

I kno...shh..

I had a coworker that was like really loud about how she thought Mel Brooks was racist. He was not the one to do those films and she had a class where she encountered him. She was super loud.


She was an insufferable twatwaffle that had to be in her thirties. She was also fired.